Jerry would never do this, but send Moore packing

Sydla

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There's simply too many nonsensical mistakes being made, and you CAN'T do that in the playoffs. Why are we tossing 20 yards down the field on 3rd and 3 when Dak doesn't have the best down field accuracy and we don't have WRs aside from lamb getting a lot of separation? Take the short, easy throw.

I also feel like we need a reliable TE. Schultz can make solid catches at times, but he drops a lot too. We need someone reliable on these short plays so that we can actually convert on 3rd down.

This is stuff a GM should be doing but unfortunately our owner is the GM and they are busy partying on a yacht and doing other stuff than the proper talent evals
3rd and 3. Throw 20.

3rd and 8. Run a bunch of routes short of the sticks.

LOL.
 

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Regardless of what you think of Dak, he's not going anywhere. He's here for a few more years. You can dabble in fixing the talent around him but IMO, that just won't be enough. The only other option to try to squeeze more out of him is give him a fresh voice, a new offensive system. He and Moore have stagnated, specifically when it comes to situations like last night.

Before the Moore fans get all goosy and poop all over this thread, I am not saying Moore sucks. But the reality is the OC is a lot easier to replace than a QB with massive cap hits. Jerry likes to wax on about how he has had to make a lot of tough decisions his entire career in business and in most cases, they have panned out for him.

Here's another opportunity. If you really want to try to get more out of Dak, I think the easiest way is get another OC in his ear, another system that can scheme guys open, etc. Make it easier for Dak. I tend to think Moore and company expect Dak to turn whatever they are spinning into pure gold. It might be time to try someone who can turn what Dak is spinning into gold.
Couldn't be more wrong. Dak is the problem. Always has been...

I don't care what it costs to move on....rip the band-aid.

Prescott for Zach Wilson....straight up.

Hell...I'd even settle for cutting #4...and rolling with Wentz or Rush.

How many more times do we need to see #4 fail?

The guy has a laundry list of defects...

It's time to move on...

Tired of all the excuses...when you can go back and pin point where all the blame should be....it's time for accountability.

No ands...ifs...or buts....it's all on #4...and his turnovers.
 

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Regardless of what you think of Dak, he's not going anywhere. He's here for a few more years. You can dabble in fixing the talent around him but IMO, that just won't be enough. The only other option to try to squeeze more out of him is give him a fresh voice, a new offensive system. He and Moore have stagnated, specifically when it comes to situations like last night.

Before the Moore fans get all goosy and poop all over this thread, I am not saying Moore sucks. But the reality is the OC is a lot easier to replace than a QB with massive cap hits. Jerry likes to wax on about how he has had to make a lot of tough decisions his entire career in business and in most cases, they have panned out for him.

Here's another opportunity. If you really want to try to get more out of Dak, I think the easiest way is get another OC in his ear, another system that can scheme guys open, etc. Make it easier for Dak. I tend to think Moore and company expect Dak to turn whatever they are spinning into pure gold. It might be time to try someone who can turn what Dak is spinning into gold.
What if the next guy is worse . . . It will take a lot if adjusting to the limitations of Dak . . . The next guy will come in and throw have His Playbook out and then tweek what's left

And I bet when its all said and done it will all look the same

At least Kellen knows Dak . . . It would take another offensive coordinator a year of trial and error trying to figure out how to hide Dak's weaknesses
 

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I bet and I'm no fan of his he'll go somewhere else and will do a decent job
That's what Romo bashers said about JG. They said it was Romo and not the crappy offense JG ran. How did JG do with the Giants?
 

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Regardless of what you think of Dak, he's not going anywhere. He's here for a few more years. You can dabble in fixing the talent around him but IMO, that just won't be enough. The only other option to try to squeeze more out of him is give him a fresh voice, a new offensive system. He and Moore have stagnated, specifically when it comes to situations like last night.

Before the Moore fans get all goosy and poop all over this thread, I am not saying Moore sucks. But the reality is the OC is a lot easier to replace than a QB with massive cap hits. Jerry likes to wax on about how he has had to make a lot of tough decisions his entire career in business and in most cases, they have panned out for him.

Here's another opportunity. If you really want to try to get more out of Dak, I think the easiest way is get another OC in his ear, another system that can scheme guys open, etc. Make it easier for Dak. I tend to think Moore and company expect Dak to turn whatever they are spinning into pure gold. It might be time to try someone who can turn what Dak is spinning into gold.
You can win with Dak but not with playcalling like this. The kid can’t stick with the formula. To many passes.
 

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3rd and 3. Throw 20.

3rd and 8. Run a bunch of routes short of the sticks.

LOL.

It's nonsensical stuff that is maddening. We're literally making the QB's job more difficult. Why are we taking a low probability throw in a short situation? Then like you mentioned, it's 2 and 15 and we're running Tony Pollard up the middle.

It's sad that we have to suffer through Jerry keeping his buddies around though.
 

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The reason to move off of Kellen Moore is he isn’t putting Dak in position to do the things he’s good at. Look at Jalen Hurts- offense does what he’s good at and it’s unstoppable. Look at Andy Reid- tailoring his offense to what his QB does best.
I think Kellen Moore runs the Garrett offense and it doesn’t work for Prescott. He isn’t a very good pocket passer. Everyone here knows it. He’s not accurate from the pocket and stares down receivers.
Keep Dak, get rid of Kellen Moore, or get rid of Dak and keep Kellen Moore…
 

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Don't stop at Moore. Fire the entire offensive staff and Mike for not doing more to help Kellen. KM is not an OC, never was, and he is a terrible coach. What KM can do is sit in a room and draw up some plays but he is not a leader of men, he does not command the room, he doesn't even coach the other coaches on how he wants things done cause he doesn't know.
 

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That's what Romo bashers said about JG. They said it was Romo and not the crappy offense JG ran. How did JG do with the Giants?


True let's see how it goes with him in a few years if it goes bad, send him to bag groceries
 

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That's Jerry's Boy. Jerry is not going to admit failure. The Cowboys need an OC who can really coach QBs. McCarthy either needs to have more influence on the offense or they need to move on from him (Moore too).
Jerry will never get rid of him, he runs the Norv Turner offense that brought Jerry 3 super bowls. the offense has been figured out long ago, and opposing defenses talk about how simple it is and how they know what plays are coming.
 

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Any OC who runs a pass play with an empty set on 2nd and 2 should be fired. When they lined up like that, I thought they were trying to spread the defense out and run a QB draw. They actually ran a pass play and Dak got intercepted. :facepalm:

JG used to do this too. Near the goal line.
 

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Any OC who runs a pass play with an empty set on 2nd and 2 should be fired. When they lined up like that, I thought they were trying to spread the defense out and run a QB draw. They actually ran a pass play and Dak got intercepted. :facepalm:

JG used to do this too. Near the goal line.
Yup. Same scheme. Air Coyrell. Been here since 2010. Why change it? :facepalm:
 

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I like the thinking. Agreed that Moore isnt bad, but the combo of him and Dak isn't getting us where we need to go.

A fresh system, and perhaps a coach with more experience leading people, could help Dak. And maybe in more ways than just scoring points. Consistency, decision making, attitude--maybe a new coach could improve on those things too. It could always get worse, but we're not winning anything with our current coach anyways.
 

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Couldn't be more wrong. Dak is the problem. Always has been...

I don't care what it costs to move on....rip the band-aid.

Prescott for Zach Wilson....straight up.

Hell...I'd even settle for cutting #4...and rolling with Wentz or Rush.

How many more times do we need to see #4 fail?

The guy has a laundry list of defects...

It's time to move on...

Tired of all the excuses...when you can go back and pin point where all the blame should be....it's time for accountability.

No ands...ifs...or buts....it's all on #4...and his turnovers.

Sweet. I don't care. If you can move Dak, then do it.

But we can't have both back IMO. It's just easier to replace an OC than a QB with massive cap hits.

You also have a weird Boise bias, so I would expect you to think Moore is great. I mean you argued Moore was a better QB than Dak too, which was laughable.
 

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What if the next guy is worse . . . It will take a lot if adjusting to the limitations of Dak . . . The next guy will come in and throw have His Playbook out and then tweek what's left

And I bet when its all said and done it will all look the same

At least Kellen knows Dak . . . It would take another offensive coordinator a year of trial and error trying to figure out how to hide Dak's weaknesses
Soooo........... just keep doing what's failed now for years?
 

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Sweet. I don't care. If you can move Dak, then do it.

But we can't have both back IMO. It's just easier to replace an OC than a QB with massive cap hits.

You also have a weird Boise bias, so I would expect you to think Moore is great. I mean you argued Moore was a better QB than Dak too, which was laughable.
He said Moore was a better QB than Romo my dude. LOL. You are arguing with a fool.
 

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Soooo........... just keep doing what's failed now for years?
You said it yourself . . . Because they are chained to the Anchor named Dak . . . They will by default have to continue to do what has failed for years

At least Kellen make us competitive. . . Look what he did with Cooper Rush. . . What if Dak gets hurt . . . Kellen has value . . . It is only Dak's execution that is the problem
 
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