Jerrys Deal

[greatwallofdallas]

I've always wondered if the Cowboys lack of success has attributed to Jerrys deals?

The way I understand it is that the NFL splits up to 80% Of its profits on tv deals, merchandise profit, and ticket sales evenly for all 32 teams.

So less popular teams still benefit from the success of more popular teams. For example last years super bowl....
The Patriots and Seahawks had some of the top selling jerseys according to nfl shop in Brady and Wilson. So regardless of who won. Those jerseys would increase in sales and therefore more money in the hands of team owners.

But (correct me if I'm wrong) Jerry Jones is the only owner that owns the rights to the Cowboys Brand so he keeps the profits on merchandise But does not receive profit from other teams sales. For the example mentioned above Dez Bryant and Tony Romo were also among the top selling jerseys; however, what do other team owners benefit from having Cowboys in a Super Bowl or even far in the playoffs since they won't see any of that merchandise profit?
I think the Cowboys are just used bye the NFL for their tv ratings. They're mostly on prime time in close games and then get disposed off around playoff time.

I've always wondered if this had anything to do with the lack of success or if they're just truely not good?

 

[Bullflop]

I've always wondered if the Cowboys lack of success has attributed to Jerrys deals?

The way I understand it is that the NFL splits up to 80% Of its profits on tv deals, merchandise profit, and ticket sales evenly for all 32 teams.

So less popular teams still benefit from the success of more popular teams. For example last years super bowl....
The Patriots and Seahawks had some of the top selling jerseys according to nfl shop in Brady and Wilson. So regardless of who won. Those jerseys would increase in sales and therefore more money in the hands of team owners.

But (correct me if I'm wrong) Jerry Jones is the only owner that owns the rights to the Cowboys Brand so he keeps the profits on merchandise But does not receive profit from other teams sales. For the example mentioned above Dez Bryant and Tony Romo were also among the top selling jerseys; however, what do other team owners benefit from having Cowboys in a Super Bowl or even far in the playoffs since they won't see any of that merchandise profit?
I think the Cowboys are just used bye the NFL for their tv ratings. They're mostly on prime time in close games and then get disposed off around playoff time.

I've always wondered if this had anything to do with the lack of success or if they're just truely not good?

Like Bill Parcells used to say when he coached in Dallas, team success is well exemplified by its record. Seeing as how we are successful one year and sadly not so the next, it does appear that our level of success is strictly a touch-and-go affair. Obviously, we will very well excel one year and bomb the next. It surely appears to me there's an element of inherent inconsistency in place.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Like Bill Parcells used to say when he coached in Dallas, team success is well exemplified by its record. Seeing as how we are successful one year and sadly not so the next, it does appear that our level of success is strictly a touch-and-go affair. Obviously, we will very well excel one year and bomb the next. It surely appears to me there's an element of inherent inconsistency in place.

2014's 12-4 record was the exception. 8-8,8-8,8-8,4-12 is more about what this team is about. One lucky season doesnt make a trend. In 2014 they had virtually no injuries and Murray rushed for 1800 yards and the defense was 2nd in the NFL in turnovers. Will it all happen again? Not likely.

 

[Bullflop]

2014's 12-4 record was the exception. 8-8,8-8,8-8,4-12 is more about what this team is about. One lucky season doesnt make a trend. In 2014 they had virtually no injuries and Murray rushed for 1800 yards and the defense was 2nd in the NFL in turnovers. Will it all happen again? Not likely.

As much as I might hate to admit this being the case, there's a good case to be made that we're likely to have an excess of glaring deficiencies every year. It's been something that this team has faced every year for the past two decades. Inconsistent managerial tendencies will seldom afford any team the opportunity to shine or even to be better than mediocre with anything remotely resembling regularity. A great move now and then to be followed up with a boneheaded decision simply doesn't feed the bulldog. I'm looking for the light at the end of this tunnel to no avail.

 

[CowboyRoy]

As much as I might hate to admit this being the case, there's a good case to be made that we're likely to have an excess of glaring deficiencies every year. It's been something that this team has faced every year for the past two decades. Inconsistent managerial tendencies will seldom afford any team the opportunity to shine or even to be better than mediocre with anything remotely resembling regularity. A great move now and then to be followed up with a boneheaded decision simply doesn't feed the bulldog.

If you look at the two times we had great seasons 12-4 13-3 there were specific things that attributed to that. The biggest difference is that we had great run games to team with Romo. And that in turn allowed the defense to be average to above average. The 13-3 season it was wades first season and we were top 3 in sacks that year. In 2014 we were #2 in turnovers with the defense. So it is:

-Health of Romo
-Strong Run game
-Defense plays great in one particular capacity.

Its just too many things to go right for any kind of consistency. If we can just get a great back, the run game should be consistently great for years to come. Then you have the Romo issue and the defense issue.

 

[Redball Express]

2014's 12-4 record was the exception. 8-8,8-8,8-8,4-12 is more about what this team is about. One lucky season doesnt make a trend. In 2014 they had virtually no injuries and Murray rushed for 1800 yards and the defense was 2nd in the NFL in turnovers. Will it all happen again? Not likely.

Agreed.

And lets not forget it took a complete collapse from the Iggles to show us a division title.

We wouldn't have even made the playoffs but for that. Same with the Jints during our 8-8 seasons.

If the Jints had not repeatedly collapsed our 8-8 records would have looked alot worst and been a better indication of the real staus of the team.

But becuz the Jints repeatedly failed..it made it appear we were better than we were.

We are not.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Jerry is mad at you for talking about him like this.

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[Bullflop]

If you look at the two times we had great seasons 12-4 13-3 there were specific things that attributed to that. The biggest difference is that we had great run games to team with Romo. And that in turn allowed the defense to be average to above average. The 13-3 season it was wades first season and we were top 3 in sacks that year. In 2014 we were #2 in turnovers with the defense. So it is:

-Health of Romo
-Strong Run game
-Defense plays great in one particular capacity.

Its just too many things to go right for any kind of consistency. If we can just get a great back, the run game should be consistently great for years to come. Then you have the Romo issue and the defense issue.

Agreed. I believe it's safe to say that there are simply too many deficiencies for any team with a haphazard management to rectify the excessive needs we have in one year alone. Normally, the addition of three or four additional talents in any given year is considered an excellent offseason. Even with no additional needs occurring in subsequent years, it strongly suggests at least three off seasons that would be required for us to recover. I'm counting about ten positions that need to be attended to ASAP -- it's not encouraging at all by any stretch, imho.

 

[CCBoy]

Nepotism, is that like male breasts?

 

[Redball Express]

Nepotism, is that like male breasts?

No.

Its more like hermephridism.

You don't really know what you are..

an owner or a GM..

and because you can't be both..

you constantly Jeckle and Hyde b/w the two.

Like somebody we know..

intimately.

 

[CCBoy]

No.

Its more like hermephridism.

You don't really know what you are..

an owner or a GM..

and because you can't be both..

you constantly Jeckle and Hyde b/w the two.

Like somebody we know..

intimately.

On that note, I'll just stick with some good 'ol Kentucky bourbon, even if it has to be Yellowstone.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Agreed. I believe it's safe to say that there are simply too many deficiencies for any team with a haphazard management to rectify the excessive needs we have in one year alone. Normally, the addition of three or four additional talents in any given year is considered an excellent offseason. Even with no additional needs occurring in subsequent years, it strongly suggests at least three off seasons that would be required for us to recover. I'm counting about ten positions that need to be attended to ASAP -- it's not encouraging at all by any stretch, imho.

The young QB is a must. If we have bad QB play after Romo, then this stout line will be wasted. If we can secure the next franchise QB in this draft to team with this line, it will all but assure we can at least remain competitive. Throw in a good RB and you at least have the makings of a dominant offense for a long time. Then you can continue to focus on the D. Just get the QB. Its one pick for Gods sake. How many have we wasted on Newman, Claiborne, TE's?

 

[Bullflop]

The young QB is a must. If we have bad QB play after Romo, then this stout line will be wasted. If we can secure the next franchise QB in this draft to team with this line, it will all but assure we can at least remain competitive. Throw in a good RB and you at least have the makings of a dominant offense for a long time. Then you can continue to focus on the D. Just get the QB. Its one pick for Gods sake. How many have we wasted on Newman, Claiborne, TE's?

I agree about the need for a QB to groom but whether or not the staff might see fit to do so remains to be seen, I suppose. It's for sure they'll be putting a high priority on defensive help but it also remains to be seen exactly when they'll decide to tend to it. Hopefully, they'll attend to their needs on both sides of the ball and make the best choices in the process.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I agree about the need for a QB to groom but whether or not the staff might see fit to do so remains to be seen, I suppose. It's for sure they'll be putting a high priority on defensive help but it also remains to be seen exactly when they'll decide to tend to it. Hopefully, they'll attend to their needs on both sides of the ball and make the best choices in the process.

From everything we have seen and heard the Cowboys brass is in win now mode, we are one player away from a SB. They have been like that for 10 years now. I highly doubt they will draft a QB. I would be pleasantly shocked.

 

[cowboyblue22]

to be able to win a championship you have to have a gm and front office and a hc and staff that is smart enough to get the players that are needed then put them in a positions to make plays then you have to have players that you can depend on to make plays at critical times. the cowboys have failed at very badly the last 20 years there is always some excuse why they don't win. Its time to say they are what they are and realize that this is what they may be for another ten years.

 

[Bullflop]

From everything we have seen and heard the Cowboys brass is in win now mode, we are one player away from a SB. They have been like that for 10 years now. I highly doubt they will draft a QB. I would be pleasantly shocked.

That's what I fear they'll see fit to do. Jerry has a tendency to think a SB run is only one good draft away from making it possible. I seriously doubt that will be the case, even with FA added, I'm expecting it to take longer than this year or next to resolve our deficiencies. By then Romo may very possibly be done.

 

[CowboyRoy]

That's what I fear they'll see fit to do. Jerry has a tendency to think a SB run is only one good draft away from making it possible. I seriously doubt that will be the case, even with FA added, I'm expecting it to take longer than this year or next to resolve our deficiencies. By then Romo may very possibly be done.

Jones is the eternal optimist. Now that is great in sales and can be good for motivating the troops. But a realist is more likely to get it right for the GM job. That is just not Jerry.

 

[Bullflop]

Jones is the eternal optimist. Now that is great in sales and can be good for motivating the troops. But a realist is more likely to get it right for the GM job. That is just not Jerry.

That would seem to tell it pretty much like it is. Jerry would be well advised to consider making Will McClay his replacement at GM before another team takes him away from us.

 

[CowboyRoy]

That would seem to tell it pretty much like it is. Jerry would be well advised to consider making Will McClay his replacement at GM before another team takes him away from us.

Yep, and thats another smart move that we will know will never happen. His ego of getting the credit wont allow him to do that.

 

[lostar2009]

I guess that is why JJ always go for shiny toys and big name FA.