Jerry's GM mistake with Miami

[Tobal]

The one thing I didn't like at the time and still don't...

The Fergie trade, Ferguson was respected and I think the team missed his leadership skills, I also think he'd have been a much better backup to Ratlliff.

In all the Fasano... Akin stuff, we lost little. In ferguson we lost something.

 

[Venger]

What'd we get for him? Three magic beans? Thanks Jerreh...

That said, Tank actually played okay last year, Ferguson was a known Tuna guy, I think it all-in-all is not a move that was really that badly considered. So on the list of things Jerreh did I don't like, I am not sure I can put this on there...

 

[Monster Heel]

lol Tank didn't play okay. He was either on rollerskates or doing nothing in most games.

 

[Randy White]

provided cap relief. He was going to be cut anyways.

If anything, the mistake made in that trade was not keeping the player that the Cowboys drafted with that pick: Erick Walden. He turned out to be a pretty good pick up by the Dullphins late in the season and has contributed nicely in special teams.

 

[NewJCowboy]

I don't think that Ferguson would have been more productive than Tank. Ferguson had all of 22 tackles the entire season!

 

[dbair1967]

He was another guy who was probably going to be released anyway, and we got something for him.

He wasnt all that good here, and he wasnt that great when he was in Miami either. Ratliff was vastly better than Ferguson is (or ever was), so its really complaining over nothing IMO.

 

[Alexander]

provided cap relief. He was going to be cut anyways.

Then that's the other mistake.

It is very likely people like Tank Johnson were responsible for a lot of the poisonous attitude that apparently took over the locker room late in the season.

Please don't kid yourselves about Ferguson. It is clear he was missed.

 

[Future]

As good as Ratliff was, he got blown off the ball at times too because of his size. That NEVER happened to Ferguson. He was a great run stuffer.

 

[Rack]

What'd we get for him? Three magic beans? Thanks Jerreh...

That said, Tank actually played okay last year, Ferguson was a known Tuna guy, I think it all-in-all is not a move that was really that badly considered. So on the list of things Jerreh did I don't like, I am not sure I can put this on there...

Not even remotely correct.


Tank SUCKED last year.

 

[Alexander]

Not even remotely correct.


Tank SUCKED last year.

He did make a play that helped us beat the Bengals. But bye and large, he was horrible down the stretch. For whatever reason, he had his bags already packed for those games. Good riddance and I hope Mister Jones learned a very valuable lesson: even those players you stuck your neck out for won't have an ounce of gratitude in them.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I think people vastly over-estimate how good Ferg was this year. He had all of 22 tackles this season, which isn't anything to write home about, and he wasn't doing much yesterday to prevent the Ravens from running the ball, when they needed to, to help close out the beat down of the Dolphins.

 

[Alexander]

I think people vastly over-estimate how good Ferg was this year. He had all of 22 tackles this season, which isn't anything to write home about

Casey Hampton had 22 tackles as well.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Casey Hampton had 22 tackles as well.

Touche. Hampton also missed 3 games as well but it's not like those 3 games is going to add another 15 tackles or anything.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Also Tank Johnson had 22 tackles as well. He also had the 1 sack and 1 forced fumble and thats with starting only 1 game while Ferguson was the starter for 13 of the 16 starts. Now I know both sides rotate a lot but Ratliff is our starter at DT, not Tank, and Tank still produced as much as Ferg.

So, going strictly by stats, then you'd have to say Tank Johnson played as well, or better, than Ferguson.

So, yeah, nothing to write home about.


So for those thinking we lost a lot not having Ferg this is what our STARTING NT got us.


Jay Ratliff - 51 tackles, 7.5 sacks. So tell me exactly how letting Ferg go hurt us exactly.

 

[Doomsday101]

Also Tank Johnson had 22 tackles as well. He also had the 1 sack and 1 forced fumble and thats with starting only 1 game while Ferguson was the starter for 13 of the 16 starts. Now I know both sides rotate a lot but Ratliff is our starter at DT, not Tank, and Tank still produced as much as Ferg.

So, going strictly by stats, then you'd have to say Tank Johnson played as well, or better, than Ferguson.

So, yeah, nothing to write home about.

Havn't you figured out Cowboy players are judged differently and by a different standard. What Tank did sucked but Ferguson was great.
It is hard to take some of our fan seriously when I see this type of BS. If you want to judge our players fine but judge them by the same standards as any player in the NFL

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Given Fergy's age and coming off injury and the cap money saved, it was a worthwhile trade for the Cowboys. If you're playing the odds, you trade somebody like Fergy. If you're straight up gambling, then you keep him. Jerry played the odds which he isn't always known to do, so it was a good move. Ratliff had 8 sacks this year, from the NT position in a 3-4 scheme (even if it is a 1 gap scheme, that's amazing). We had other problems with due to gaffes in Jerry's judgement (i.e. filming 'Hard Knocks', not getting more depth on the O-Line, backup QB) than we did with Fergy being traded.



YAKUZA

 

[Rack]

Also Tank Johnson had 22 tackles as well. He also had the 1 sack and 1 forced fumble and thats with starting only 1 game while Ferguson was the starter for 13 of the 16 starts. Now I know both sides rotate a lot but Ratliff is our starter at DT, not Tank, and Tank still produced as much as Ferg.

So, going strictly by stats, then you'd have to say Tank Johnson played as well, or better, than Ferguson.

So, yeah, nothing to write home about.


So for those thinking we lost a lot not having Ferg this is what our STARTING NT got us.


Jay Ratliff - 51 tackles, 7.5 sacks. So tell me exactly how letting Ferg go hurt us exactly.

And that's your mistake right there.

 

[RainMan]

Under the cloud of assumption that Tank would be a player, it's understandable to view Ferguson as expendable.

But either way you slice it, we whiffed on that decision. We traded away a good player and relied on a far-less quality one, albeit with a bigger, cooler name, to take his place.

 

[Venger]

Not even remotely correct.


Tank SUCKED last year.

Are you calling this football season, last season? Because I am referring to our 13-3 year. This season may be over for us, but it's still this season. Tank showed a few things in a few games last year, had a couple sacks even though he only played maybe a half season. He didn't set the league on fire, but he was passable.

 

[Alexander]

Also Tank Johnson had 22 tackles as well. He also had the 1 sack and 1 forced fumble and thats with starting only 1 game while Ferguson was the starter for 13 of the 16 starts. Now I know both sides rotate a lot but Ratliff is our starter at DT, not Tank, and Tank still produced as much as Ferg.

So, going strictly by stats, then you'd have to say Tank Johnson played as well, or better, than Ferguson.

So, yeah, nothing to write home about.


So for those thinking we lost a lot not having Ferg this is what our STARTING NT got us.


Jay Ratliff - 51 tackles, 7.5 sacks. So tell me exactly how letting Ferg go hurt us exactly.

You know that's not a fair argument. Phillips' 3-4 stresses penetration from the nose tackle far more than any other 3-4 scheme.

Instead of trying to downgrade Ferguson's play which is a specious argument at best, it might be best to concentrate on the real impact of keeping Johnson over Ferguson and that comes from the personality standpoint, particularly in the locker room.