Jerry's Way doesn't work

YoMick;3572722 said:
Jimmy leaves. (insert whatever story anyone wants here on how it really happened? :rolleyes: Thats not important)


FACT: Jimmy leaves and we spot the 49ers 21pts in first 12 minutes of 1st qtr in NFC title game
OPINION: I dont believe that happens with Jimmy remaining as HC.

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FACT: Cowboys win SuperBowl XXX
OPINION: We got lucky

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FACT: We win SB with Jimmy's Team
OPINION: Because we win SBXXX this allows Jerry to think he can run the team and make football decisions and have it work his way.

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FACT: Jerry's way doesnt work.
OPINION: It will never work

When Jerry and Switzer said "We did it our way baby" that ruined the franchise for years.
 
Need a Coach that talks the talk and players that walk the walk unfortunately, easier said then done.
 
dguinta1;3572741 said:
Need a Coach that talks the talk and players that walk the walk unfortunately, easier said then done.

And an owner that opens his wallet during the offseason and then sits in his luxury suite on gamedays while the football men run the team.
 
Jerry never said that he hired Parcells as a window dressing move. He hired Parcells because the fans were getting on him, which sort of sounds like every decision an owner in any professional sport tends to make unless they are Al Davis. Robert Kraft hired Belichick. Why? Because the fans were getting on him about Pete Carroll turning the club into a .500 ball club. The Rooneys hired Cowher. Why? Because the fans got on the Rooneys for keeping Chuck Noll around for too long and the organization needed some fresh blood (and Cowher played for the hated Browns as well).

I think Parcells was needed because he got Jerry to look at the league differently and how the game is played differently. Ever since the Parcells era, we've drafted entirely better and spent money on FA's entirely better. Are we rolling 6's every time? Of course not....but who is?

We still haven't had a sub-9-7 record since 2004, only 1 other team can say that...the Patriots. Whom also play in a far weaker division. And if you're telling me that fans of teams like the Niners, Commanders, Bills, Raiders, Rams, Lions, Chiefs, Texans, Jacksonville, Browns, Tennessee, Bengals, Dolphins, etc. would rather have their owners over Jerry, then they have some very poor judgement about the NFL.

I think the Cowboys' biggest issue was that Jerry messed up the entire transition of the league into the salary cap and quite frankly, lost his mind up until 2002 (this was the last Campo year, the team drafted a bit better, got out of salary cap hell). That caused him to have to bring in Parcells who helped change a lot of the organizations philosophies and directions in football, but having to overcome 3 consecutive 5-11 seasons was too difficult and as luck would have it, we didn't hire the best possible coaches.

However, nobody in their right mind would have said that Jerry should give up on Parcells in '06 so he could hire Payton. After '06 we had massive problems on defense and we needed a defensive 3-4 specialist and our best option at the time was Wade or Rex Ryan. And while I don't like Garrett, he was at the time considered a hot coaching prospect. He was a solid backup QB in the league, went to Princeton, came from a coaching family, etc.

A lot of hindsight is 20/20 going on here. I think Jerry has given the coaching staff a lot of leeway as to what they want to do, I just think that Jerry's selection of coaches has probably been his weakpoint in the past 8 years.




YR
 
It's not about the players, it's about competent leadership at the top.

Troy, Emmitt, Mike and Darrell couldn't save the mid 90's Cowboys from sliding into oblivion under the leadership of Barry, Chan and then Campo.

The current players who are winners (whoever they are) won't save this team.

You can't look at just individual wins and losses because every coach loses at one time or another based on a number of different factors. But you can look at the overall direction of the franchise and this is now the second time in Jerry's tenure where we had something good going only to watch it slide into oblivion. The first signs this time came shortly after Parcells left the building and Jerry hired Campo and Red before hiring a HC. You just knew this day was eventually coming when he did that.
 
In the last SuperBowl Jerry was able to give the Team to the Players. He's been trying to do that for the last fifteen years. Placing the blame on the players is the acceptable common place.


However, giving the Team to the Players absolutely does not work untill the Team and Players have taken full reponsability for themselves, moreover their Play on the field.


Someone should have reminded Jones that this Team doesn't consist of back-back Superbowl winners. This Team has repeatedly consisted of mediocrity, which means they cannot be put in charge of themselves. But it's "Jerrys' Way" so...
 
SilverStarCowboy;3572685 said:
...:scream:

Yeah, I should of inserted Jerry there instead of the "he". Just figured people would know who I meant.
 
CATCH17;3572651 said:
Do you have something to back this up?

I'm almost willing to bet that he'll say "He did it by signing TO."

That was the popular thing, if i remember right, when BP did leave.
 
SilverStarCowboy;3572660 said:
The only constant that has been here in Dallas for the last fifteen years is Jerry Jones, not the Coaches or Players they've all long since moved on or retired.
Flawed logic. Jerry has provided the talent in spades. There's no excuse for the current team to perform the way they're performing. Jerry doesn't take the field. He's just the easy target when players and coaches do stupid things.
 
CaptainAmerica;3572843 said:
The first signs this time came shortly after Parcells left the building and Jerry hired Campo and Red before hiring a HC. You just knew this day was eventually coming when he did that.

Campo wasn't brought in until 2008, when Wade had been here a full year.





YR
 
Boyzmamacita;3573184 said:
Flawed logic. Jerry has provided the talent in spades. There's no excuse for the current team to perform the way they're performing. Jerry doesn't take the field. He's just the easy target when players and coaches do stupid things.



Obviously the loads of talanted players you speak of over the past fifteen years weren't good enough to win in this league. Face the facts, your logic is nonexistent, Jerrys' Way has failed for a decade and a half.
 
Jerry is a decent OWNER, terrible GENERAL MANAGER - that distinction must be made in this discussion.

If a regular general manager of a team had Jerry's track record as a GM, they would have been fired years ago. Jerry has the ultimate job security because he's never going to fire himself.

So what do we get? A lameduck coaching staff, an offensive line devoid of depth that continues to be neglected, and an in-over-his-head kicker who is learning on the job who Jerry won't replace because that's "not what his gut tells him to do."

Jerry the owner is OK. Until he stops making the football decisions around here, we're not going to win anything.
 
Boyzmamacita;3573184 said:
Flawed logic. Jerry has provided the talent in spades. There's no excuse for the current team to perform the way they're performing. Jerry doesn't take the field. He's just the easy target when players and coaches do stupid things.

I'm wondering if this team is anywhere near as talented as everyone keeps saying it is.

Taking away the New Orleans game, the only team of any semi quality we beat at all least season was a flawed Eagles team who we matched up well against. We beat them twice and then got obliterated by a much better Viking team. The Saints game may have just been one of the 'any given Sunday' games - they did lose to Tampa and Carolina in the succeeding weeks.

And then we proceeded to basically stand pat in the offseason.

Maybe we really aren't as good as we think we are.
 
Reality;3572656 said:
While I may not like everything Jerry does, he's way better than a lot of the owners out there. You never appreciate what you have because the other side of the hill always looks greener from a distance. There are a lot fans of NFL teams right now, even some with winning records, who would love to have Jerry as their owner. There are a lot of fans of other teams who know their team will not retain any home-grown star players because their owners are too cheap to pay them.

-Reality

Of course they would,,,Jerry Jones gives crazy money to players.....he builds and hypes everything.....he is a businessmen...nothin wrong with that..except businessmen don't win Superbowls....they make money....

Jerry Jones is following down the Al Davis path....
 

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