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When Parcells was GM with the Jets, Tannanbaum was his right hand mand. Mangini is also attempting to install Parcells/Belichick 3-4. This is a possible trade partner that makes a lot of sense.


Jets GM poised to upgrade team
Thursday, August 17, 2006
BY DAVE HUTCHINSON
Star-Ledger Staff

HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. -- During a state-of-the-team address yesterday at training camp, Jets general manager Mike Tannenbaum said he's confident he'll be able to improve the team before the Sept. 10 opener at Tennessee and laid out three ways in which he can do it.

Tannenbaum, speaking to the media for the first time since the start of training camp in late July, also said the Jets will give running back Curtis Martin every opportunity to return this season. Martin, 33, is on the physically unable to perform list following an arthroscopic procedure on his right knee in December.

Although Tannenbaum didn't say so, obtaining a running back likely tops his priority list. The backs on his radar include T.J. Duckett (Falcons), Ron Dayne (Broncos), Michael Turner (Chargers) and Kevan Barlow (49ers).

Acquiring a nose tackle is next on the agenda and the Jets had veteran Grady Jackson in for a visit yesterday.

Possible trade bait is veteran wide receiver Justin McCareins, who remains in coach Eric Mangini's doghouse and has fallen to the second team behind Jerricho Cotchery. The Jets remain deep in the secondary as well after the trade that sent cornerback Derrick Strait to Cleveland was voided when running back Lee Suggs failed his physical.

"We've been talking to a lot of teams about a lot of different positions," said Tannenbaum. "I don't want to comment on any particular speculation except to say that I'm on the phone a lot and once in a while it's to Michelle (his wife, who recently gave birth to a baby boy)."

Tannenbaum, in his first season as GM, explained that in the month of August there are three ways to improve your team: waiver-wire claims, signing a vested veteran who is waived in training camp, or making a trade.

As for a waiver-wire claim, the Jets are fourth in line to claim a player by virtue of their 4-12 finish last season and have a chance to pick up a fairly good player as teams make their final cuts.

Any vested veteran cut in training camp doesn't have to go through waivers and can sign with any team. Tannenbaum said the Jets are in good shape salary cap-wise to sign such a veteran.

Finally, the Jets can make a player-for-player trade, as they attempted to do with Cleveland for Suggs, or can trade draft picks for a player. Tannenbaum pointed out that the Jets have four picks -- a first, two seconds and a third -- on the first day of the 2007 draft.

"Organizationally I feel good about our preparation relative to those three mechanisms to improve our team," Tannenbaum said. "If any of those three scenarios present themselves to us I feel good that we can react accordingly and improve the team."

Tannenbaum dodged a question about whether he regretted not drafting a running back higher, especially after Martin advised the team to strongly consider taking one in the early rounds because he was concerned about his ability to play this season.

The Jets didn't draft a running back until the fourth round, when they selected Florida State's Leon Washington, who is a small, situational back. As a result, the Jets find themselves scrambling to find a back in the third week of training camp as Derrick Blaylock, Cedric Houston and Washington have yet to step up.

"I wouldn't characterize it as scrambling," Tannenbaum said.

That, however, is exactly what it is. Martin is currently rehabbing his knee and someone with knowledge of his condition said he won't be ready for the opener. The hope is that he'll be ready at some point in the season.

"(Martin) is working hard to get back as quickly as possible and we're going to give him every opportunity to do that," Tannenbaum said.
 

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I can get Shanle on a plane in 30 minutes. I'll mail his stuff to him.
 

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Do the Jets want linebackers or defensive ends? That is where we can afford to give up players.

Everything I see is that they want a backup nose tackle at least and we really need one of ours to step up. They want a runner, but there are more appealing runningbacks they could get other than Tyson Thompson, who is much like what they already have in Blaylock and Leon Washington.

I don't see the fit, other than Tannenbaum has connections to Coach Parcells.
 

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Alexander said:
Do the Jets want linebackers or defensive ends? That is where we can afford to give up players.

Considering it took the better part of two years for us to aquire the necessary pieces to make the move, I have a hard time believing Mangini has all the pieces he needs at his disposal Day 1. Right now he only has 2 of the line pieces ... Robertson is playing nose and Shaun Ellis is RDE. You need at least 6 quality linebackers.
 

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InmanRoshi said:
Considering it took the better part of two years for us to aquire the necessary pieces to make the move, I have a hard time believing Mangini has all the pieces he needs at his disposal Day 1. Right now he only has 2 of the line pieces ... Robertson is playing nose and Shaun Ellis is RDE. You need at least 6 quality linebackers.

If they only have two pieces on the line, they wasted money on Von Oelhoffen. At LB, they have Hobson, Vilma, Barton and Thomas.

Is Shanle any better than any of these players? Is he better than the depth they have in Kassel, Schlegal or Chatham? I am not so sure. Singleton might be a possibility, but I believe Hobson isn't as bad as many think,

I don't believe I see much equity in a trade involving our linebackers unless they are willing to give up McCareins in exchange. I also doubt they would take Kenyon Coleman in exchange.

If we do a deal with them, it will likely be for draft choices, not McCareins, at least I hope not. I would not give up much for him. Unless it is fire sale, I don't see it happening.
 

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Alexander said:
If we do a deal with them, it will likely be for draft choices, not McCareins, at least I hope not.

Ideally that's what we'd like to do. Player for player trades would only happen IMO if an injury occurs, or certain guys don't step up for us. If we could wrangle 2 or 3 7ths from whoever for guys slated for bus fare that's pure gravy. With Parcells track record on 7th rounders it could be worthwhile or at the very least give us a bit more ammo for other moves next April.
 

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InmanRoshi said:
I would take McCrariens over overpaid/overaged/overinjured Coles.

For what McCareins has delivered for New York, he has been overpaid as well.
 

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iceberg said:
shanlee is a RB?

They don't have to be interested in a RB from us. They could easily get a better back than we could offer elsewhere.

They could use a backup NT and reserve DE also.

They could use Shanle as any team running a 3-4 could use him at least as a backup. I just don't see a good match. There isn't much I believe we would want on their roster save a receiver and I certainly would hate it if we gave up anything of value other than a player to acquire McCareins.
 

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JPM said:
No, but they are looking for LB help.

I don't think that need is nearly as great as NT, unless the player is a starting caliber player better than Hobson or a pass rusher like Thomas.
 

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Alexander said:
For what McCareins has delivered for New York, he has been overpaid as well.

Agreed. And evidently he's just a role player with them right now. Which is why I don't think its such a stretch to believe he can be aquired for some of our role players.
 

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Won't be Ellis, they don't need any of our backup LB's, we really don't have any depth anywhere else that could help them. They need a RB or 3-4 help.

Must be Romo. Romo is outta here! Romo and our seccond next year for their first next year and we get Brady Quinn, because the Jets are going to be terrible!:p:
 

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InmanRoshi said:
Agreed. And evidently he's just a role player with them right now. Which is why I don't think its such a stretch to believe he can be aquired for some of our role players.

Had they not given up so much to get him, I would agree. But sometimes it is hard to simply cut bait. I am not saying they wouldn't, but it would be a tougher decision.
 

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JPM said:
I can get Shanle on a plane in 30 minutes. I'll mail his stuff to him.

wait a sec...we cannot trade the great Scott Shanle!!! "The Answer" said Shanle is all everything and that he will be a star in this defense..he says he KNOWS talent when he sees it

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