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how do you think he would have fared in todays NFL Game?

I think he would have been a good back but not a great one.

He had size and speed, but would not outweigh DL and LB's, or be stronger then them like he did when he played. And he would not have been the fastest player on the field either.

No doubt in my mind, there is no way he would be running over or away from defenders like he did in his time in Today's Game.

He was before his time that's for sure, but there have been better backs throughout the years.

Thoughts?.............
 

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IMO, his career would've been shorter due to arrests and overall dumbarsedness
 

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i respect his abilities on the field..........

but he's one of the biggest racists to ever walk this earth.


to answer your question.........he would have run over today's players just like he ran over the players he faced.

the man was a beast on the football field from what i've seen on old video footage.
 

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KD said:
how do you think he would have fared in todays NFL Game?

I think he would have been a good back but not a great one.

He had size and speed, but would not outweigh DL and LB's, or be stronger then them like he did when he played. And he would not have been the fastest player on the field either.

No doubt in my mind, there is no way he would be running over or away from defenders like he did in his time in Today's Game.

He was before his time that's for sure, but there have been better backs throughout the years.

Thoughts?.............

He may have, actually. I'm assuming you say this because the game has evolved so much, a large part due to advances in technology, training, and other direct influences on modern athletes. If he were to have these advantages today, whose to say he couldn't be dominant as he was then? Its hard to compare athletes fo differing eras. But if you take the older athlete with out of date training and put him against modern athletes, there's no question he'd be at a disadvantage. But if you give him the modern advantages, those traits that made him dominant then may also make him dominant now. IMO.
 

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Sunny boy, on a Tom Landry team, Tony Dorsett, Emmitt Smith, and Calvin Hill would have been 2nd, 3rd,and 4th team backups.
 

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It's all relative. And relative to his era, I believe Jim Brown is probably the greatest football player of all time. If he were in his prime today, he'd have access to the modern weight training and coaching players do today. I have little doubt he'd still be an amazing RB if he were 25 this season.
 

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22choochoo said:
lanecity 1975 , i agree but that does'nt reflex on what a great rb he was.

welcome to the board 22choochoo......
 

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Jim was a physical beast back in that day but in this day he would of been nothing special.
 

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tomson75 said:
He may have, actually. I'm assuming you say this because the game has evolved so much, a large part due to advances in technology, training, and other direct influences on modern athletes. If he were to have these advantages today, whose to say he couldn't be dominant as he was then? Its hard to compare athletes fo differing eras. But if you take the older athlete with out of date training and put him against modern athletes, there's no question he'd be at a disadvantage. But if you give him the modern advantages, those traits tha
\t made him dominant then may also make him dominant now. IMO.

EXACTLY! Training, supplements, that sort of thing has come along so far from back in the day, and many players now are only 1 sport athletes, devoting large amounts of the off season to getting their body prepared to play their sport.

Brown would have been good in our era. Look at guys like Jerry Rice who were dominant in the 80's, and managed to be very succesful at an old age in modern football.
 

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Evidently you youngins didnt watch NFL football back in the early days. It's no better now than it was then.Players now are bigger, faster, and stronger, but not better athletes per say.
 

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I saw Jim Brown play the last half of his career and he was the most dominant player I have ever seen in football.

Some of his dominance stems from the fact that he was as big or bigger than most of the LBs he faced, was only 15-20 lbs lighter than most of the DLs, and was as fast as most of the DBs. He also played with a great team under the greatest HC of all time, Paul Brown(for most of his career anyway).

It is very difficult to compare players from different eras but I usually go by how well they played against the competition they faced and Brown ranks at the top under those criteria.

It is impossible to say how Brown would play in today's game. There are too many variables. In one sense, Jim Brown played with a fire that he might not have in today's world. Racism was a major issue back then, much more than it is today. The civil rights movement was still at its peak and Brown was a symbol of that movement. He used that racial hatred to fuel his passion on the field and without that I believe it would diminish his ability to some degree.

The advances in sports medicine and training would make him an even more remarkable athlete and his size/speed combination would still make him one of the best RBs in the league today with the modern training techniques.

I would say, and this is strictly conjecture on my part, that Brown would be the top RB in the league today if he had the same passion he had back then and the modern training that is available today. Without that passion driving him I think he would still be among the top-5 in today's game.

As someone else said though, he would likely run into more legal problems in today's world than he did when he played. The money and fame available to pro athletes today is too great a lure for a firey guy like Brown to avoid the traps and pitfalls he fell into later in life.
 

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THUMPER said:
I saw Jim Brown play the last half of his career and he was the most dominant player I have ever seen in football.
Showing you age again there old buddy. :lmao:

BTW you are right on the :money:
 

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Well, if you just take him as he was then, and plop him down in today's game, I still think he'd be a darn good RB....he was 225lbs...

But if we assume he'd be as advanced physically as today's players are, he'd be around 260lbs and 4.45 fast.

That'd be a rather awesome combination.
 

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tomson75 said:
He may have, actually. I'm assuming you say this because the game has evolved so much, a large part due to advances in technology, training, and other direct influences on modern athletes. If he were to have these advantages today, whose to say he couldn't be dominant as he was then? Its hard to compare athletes fo differing eras. But if you take the older athlete with out of date training and put him against modern athletes, there's no question he'd be at a disadvantage. But if you give him the modern advantages, those traits that made him dominant then may also make him dominant now. IMO.


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Mr. Brown, as he should be called, is the G.O.A.T.! Ask any runningback and his name will come up as the one who made it cool to play the position.
 

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I dont doubt his greatness at all but I just dont think players were as dedicated and well tuned.

If you were born much more physicaly gifted than everyone else then it was ten times harder for others to catch up.

Unlike today with hard work with the proper equipment and NFL ability its a lot easier to keep up. So he wouldnt just be heads and shoulders above everyone like he was then.

You could probably take Brandon Jacobs from the Giants and put him in that era and he would mow throw everyone and probably avg 10 yards per carry for his entire carreer.

All that being said my all time list goes

1: Walter Payton

2: Emmitt Smith

3: Jim Brown

4: Tony Dorsett

5: Barry Sanders

I think Earl Campbell, and Gale Sayers are hard to keep off this list as well and if Bo Jackson wouldnt have got hurt this may not even be a discussion.
 

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lanecity1975 said:
i respect his abilities on the field..........

but he's one of the biggest racists to ever walk this earth.


to answer your question.........he would have run over today's players just like he ran over the players he faced.

the man was a beast on the football field from what i've seen on old video footage.

what makes him one of the biggest racists to ever walk the earth???
 
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