Jimmy Johnson leads another team to the Super Bowl

[Chocolate Lab]

In the past 4-5 years. Jimmy would have had his teams ready when playoff time came.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/fo..._afc_gm1/news/2000/01/15/dolphins_jaguars_ap/

Dont get too excited because we won a playoff game. We beat a BAD philly team. Thats right, they really sucked this year. Statistically we have a playoff win but this team crumbled when they played a good team, AGAIN.

Once again, they only became BAD after we beat them.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Minnesota with Favre is a very good team... You can't deny that. The Saint were extremly fortunate yesterday. The Colts will blow out the Saints in the Superbowl.

 

[Daudr]

it was a +4 turnover margin and the Saints won in OT.

They couldn't take advantage of the opportunities given to them. I hate to say it, but the Vikings gave this game away. This was just like Week 2 vs NYG when Dallas had 4 turnovers and still managed to be in the game until the final seconds. I don't cheer for injuries, but part of me was happy to see Favre getting rocked and to see the Vikings get beat

Absolutely.

And about Favre - I couldn't be happier at what happened to him after the way he chose to end the game last week.

 

[Idgit]

In the past 4-5 years. Jimmy would have had his teams ready when playoff time came.

Wade never does.


Dont get too excited because we won a playoff game. We beat a BAD philly team. Thats right, they really sucked this year. Statistically we have a playoff win but this team crumbled when they played a good team, AGAIN.

Really, this is what we're in for this offseason re: the back:back domination of Philly? I'm staggered. By 'staggered' I mean 'not even sad about the fact that I'm not surprised anymore.'

And I love Jimmy as much as the next guy, but his advice to the Saints as far as this clip is concerned was basically 'prepare for stuff.' I think Wade, or even, gulp, Garrett might be capable of doing as much to get a team ready.

 

[amuze]

If Jimmy was the head coach of the cowboys this season, the team would be on its way to the SB. In my book the guys is a hall of fame head coach

He didn't accomplish squat. j/k

Totally agree!

 

[Daudr]

In the past 4-5 years. Jimmy would have had his teams ready when playoff time came.

Wade never does.

Our team still seems to believe their press. It kills me that they still have not realized that you are never as good or bad as the press would like you to believe, and you need to prepare for every game like it's your last, instead of thinking you can coast to a victory.

 

[thssanders]

I agree with this.

I believe Minnesota was the better team but make crucial mistakes when it matter.

However, I don't think the Super Bowl will be a walk in the park for the Colts, but they will ultimately win it.

I believe it could be just like the Patriots/Panthers Super Bowl a few years ago.

I think it will be a great game. The colts defense was pretty good this year, but i think the saints can exploit them. They have a second year player in kelvin hayden at cornerback. And on the otherside they have a rookie in lacey. Their third corner is also a rookie a believe, j. powers. I think brees will be able to light them up like brady did, but i still think peyton proves too much in the end.

 

[tyke1doe]

Yes and Jimmy Johnson went to Miami as head coach and GM and did exactly what?

Uh, rebuilt the Dolphins defense.

Look, building a dynasty has as much to do with luck as it has to do with coaching.

If the Packers lose their last game instead of winning, the Packers get Aikman, we get Tony Mandarich and we might be talking about the Packers as the team of the 90s.

If Peyton Manning decides to leave his junior year - like most of his peers - the Jets might be the team of the decade and the Colts might still be also-rans.

Jimmy Johnson is a great coach. Not doubts about it. But he didn't benefit from free agency the way it's structured today. Furthermore, running backs weren't as plentious when he was piloting the Dolphins like they are today. The Dolphins were a great running back away from a Super Bowl. If they had gotten Fred Taylor instead of the Jaguars getting him, that franchise might have reached another Super Bowl.

Jimmy stepped into the perfect situation in Dallas, and his coaching got the Cowboys over the top - early.

Miami was less than ideal, especially with Marino - not Johnson - calling the shots.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Once again, they only became BAD after we beat them.

Hilarious isn't it. They had won 6 games in a row, were averaging 30+ points a game, and were absolutley lighting people up offensively. ESPN was calling them the best team in the NFC, unstoppable, Action Jackson gonna light ya up, yada yada yada.

Then we make them look relatively average they become a bad team. Crazy.

 

[Seven]

Dont get too excited because we won a playoff game. We beat a BAD philly team. Thats right, they really sucked this year. Statistically we have a playoff win but this team crumbled when they played a good team, AGAIN.

Yeah? And we beat them like they were bad. It's not like we eek'd out a 2 point victory. Now what?

 

[clutch88]

Wait a minute...didn't we have Keith "the priest" Brooking talk to the team before the viking game? Then beg for mercy before it was over.

 

[Cochese]

Hilarious isn't it. They had won 6 games in a row, were averaging 30+ points a game, and were absolutley lighting people up offensively. ESPN was calling them the best team in the NFC, unstoppable, Action Jackson gonna light ya up, yada yada yada.

Then we make them look relatively average they become a bad team. Crazy.

Im pretty sure the Eagles diddnt beat a team with a winning record.

 

[Juke99]

Yes and Jimmy Johnson went to Miami as head coach and GM and did exactly what?

I've never understood this kind of thinking...

So please, explain.

How does what happened at Miami minimize what was accomplished with the Cowboys?

In that case, Vince Lombardi sucked as a coach because he wasn't successful with the Commanders after he coached the Packers.

And Parcells, given his 4 years with the Cowboys, I guess his years with the Giants don't count.

Joe Gibbs. Bad coach. Look at his return to the Commanders.

and on and on.

One has nothing to do with the other.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Im pretty sure the Eagles diddnt beat a team with a winning record.

I should've known better than to click on 'view post'.

 

[jterrell]

Didn't Jimmy Johnson want his Miami boy Steve Walsh to be the starting QB until Jerry set him straight and "persuaded" him to make Aikman the starter?


iv'e heard that a few times before over the years

This is both true and false.

Yes, Jimmy liked Walsh better initially. He thought Walsh was a winner after his college career and that Troy was a loser(after his college career)....
After that first season Jimmy took a poll and his coaches votes Walsh as starter.. all but 2. BUT, Bob Ackles and the QB Coach LOVED Troy and saw his potential as did Norv when he was hired. Jimmy got on board and reached out to Troy who wanted to be traded if he wasn't named starter.

Jimmy took Walsh and traded him off to the Saints for a 1st and 3rd though not as high a first as he burned on Walsh obviously... first overall.

All in all Jimmy was the perfect guy for the job when Jerry Jones hired him. He ran his coaches as scouts and position coaches and he was the primary talent evaluator that Jerry trusted. He and Lacewell. He was a tough coach who knew how to turn around the team's attitude. He gave them swagger.

Jimmy hasn't been as good anywhere else because he no longer has that staff he trusts, that staff isn't as good at evaluating talent now because they aren't fresh off of college campuses recruiting all the best high schoolers in the country, and both offensive and defensive schemes have evolved.

Jimmy was a risk taker like Jerry. Jimmy took Cecil Collins in the draft.... He'd draft talent, period, no matter if the guy was an axe murderer. He didn't want choir boys, he wanted talent. He pushed guys hard enough to keep them in line and he never intended the keep that job or his guys a long time. In short Jimmy rode the thing until the wheels fell off. Jerry was too proud and hard-headed to start a real rebuild and instead tried to prolong the team's success by mortgaging it's future. Hello, 13 year playoff win drought.

All that said, Jerry is the one who is here, he stayed, he never stopped working. Jimmy took off like a parent who doesn't pay child support. As good as Jimmy was, he isn't a Cowboy anymore than Bill Parcells was.

 

[jterrell]

I've never understood this kind of thinking...

So please, explain.

How does what happened at Miami minimize what was accomplished with the Cowboys?

In that case, Vince Lombardi sucked as a coach because he wasn't successful with the Commanders after he coached the Packers.

And Parcells, given his 4 years with the Cowboys, I guess his years with the Giants don't count.

Joe Gibbs. Bad coach. Look at his return to the Commanders.

and on and on.

One has nothing to do with the other.

It matters when one argues Jimmy would amazingly succeed TODAY where others have failed.

Its a valid proof that he didn't always succeed and assumptions he will do so now are faulty.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I've never understood this kind of thinking...
So please, explain.
How does what happened at Miami minimize what was accomplished with the Cowboys?
In that case, Vince Lombardi sucked as a coach because he wasn't successful with the Commanders after he coached the Packers.
And Parcells, given his 4 years with the Cowboys, I guess his years with the Giants don't count.
Joe Gibbs. Bad coach. Look at his return to the Commanders.
and on and on.
One has nothing to do with the other.

Exactly!

People are fickle and have this great talent to revise history.

WAKE UP PEOPLE.. JIMMY JOHNSON gave us the best 5 years of Dallas Cowboys football EVER... in our history!!!

THREE SB in 4 years. Maybe 4 straight or 4 out of 6 ... who knows?

It matters when one argues Jimmy would amazingly succeed TODAY where others have failed.

Its a valid proof that he didn't always succeed and assumptions he will do so now are faulty.

At the very least Jimmy would hold players accountable. THAT has nothing to do with yesterday or today's NFL.
He would succeed with THAT

 

[Juke99]

It matters when one argues Jimmy would amazingly succeed TODAY where others have failed.

Its a valid proof that he didn't always succeed and assumptions he will do so now are faulty.

Well, this, as you wrote it, I would agree with...but that's not what was posted and often is..

"Oh, if Jimmy was so great, what happened in Miami?"

It's just a silly way to look at things.

 

[jterrell]

Wait a minute...didn't we have Keith "the priest" Brooking talk to the team before the viking game? Then beg for mercy before it was over.

Post stupid stuff much???

Brooking amped up the team before we beat the Saints, something the Vikes couldn't do.

And Brooking didn't beg for anything, he told the Vikes team on their sideline they were a bunch of dbags. Looked to me like it was the Vikes crying yesteday. They didn't even have any fight left in them when it went over.

 

[jterrell]

Well, this, as you wrote it, I would agree with...but that's not what was posted and often is..

"Oh, if Jimmy was so great, what happened in Miami?"

It's just a silly way to look at things.

It's just the same thing as saying Jimmy was so great for winning here.
All guys have are their total records.

Jimmy was great here, he was not great in Miami.

All in all he did not have a Hall of Fame coaching career as an NFL coach.

This absolutely applies to BP as well though. No coach has simply won everywhere he goes or is a magical fix. You need an entire organization and one guy can really help there but it won't be anywhere near a one man job.

No one can take away what Jimmy did here! He built up an amazing team primed to have a glorious 4 to 6 year run. He was hurt by staff departures and free agency leaching off this team. He was also hurt when his staff were no longer working off of first hand knowledge about potential draftees.

But Jimmy wasn't Landry who did it long-term and he isn't a magician who can make rabbits pop out of hats whenever he wants.