Jimmy Johnson leads another team to the Super Bowl

[hawklegion]

Wade's fist pump and look of genuine confusion during game is an inspiration to all.

 

[Juke99]

It's just the same thing as saying Jimmy was so great for winning here.
All guys have are their total records.

Jimmy was great here, he was not great in Miami.

All in all he did not have a Hall of Fame coaching career as an NFL coach.

This absolutely applies to BP as well though. No coach has simply won everywhere he goes or is a magical fix. You need an entire organization and one guy can really help there but it won't be anywhere near a one man job.

No one can take away what Jimmy did here! He built up an amazing team primed to have a glorious 4 to 6 year run. He was hurt by staff departures and free agency leaching off this team. He was also hurt when his staff were no longer working off of first hand knowledge about potential draftees.

But Jimmy wasn't Landry who did it long-term and he isn't a magician who can make rabbits pop out of hats whenever he wants.

Yep. And that's my problem with the knee jerk response of "What did Jimmy do when he went to Miami?" as a way to discredit him as a coach.

Guaranteed, if I started a thread and wrote "I really miss Jimmy Johnson as head coach. I think he'd have a lot of success with this current team" I'd get the "Really? If Jimmy is so great, what happened in Miami?" response in no time.

Ya know, Roger Bannister broke the 4 minute mile...let's say in his next race, he ran a 4:02 mile...would the same people be saying "Really? If Roger is so great, what happened in his next race?"

 

[clutch88]

Post stupid stuff much???

Brooking amped up the team before we beat the Saints, something the Vikes couldn't do.

And Brooking didn't beg for anything, he told the Vikes team on their sideline they were a bunch of dbags. Looked to me like it was the Vikes crying yesteday. They didn't even have any fight left in them when it went over.

I didn't see the vikes crying last night they almost won the game..but i did see them outclass the cowboys and keith brooking 34-3.Yeah he sure amped the team up. You go back and find any cowboy player past and present that would complain about the score after getting blew out...oh thats right wade and one of his former players. Wade and Brooking made the cowboys look like cream puffs(wades favorite doughnut btw).

 

[jterrell]

Exactly!

People are fickle and have this great talent to revise history.

WAKE UP PEOPLE.. JIMMY JOHNSON gave us the best 5 years of Dallas Cowboys football EVER... in our history!!!

THREE SB in 4 years. Maybe 4 straight or 4 out of 6 ... who knows?







At the very least Jimmy would hold players accountable. THAT has nothing to do with yesterday or today's NFL.
He would succeed with THAT

no, he didnt.
Jimmy held bad players accountable.
his better players got away with murder.

that white house stuff happened BECAUSE of Jimmy.
he created the play hard, party hard culture just as he did at Miami.

all that mattered was winning.

Jimmy was good at lots of things but discipline for him was ON FIELD concern alone.

 

[jterrell]

I didn't see the vikes crying last night they almost won the game..but i did see them outclass the cowboys and keith brooking 34-3.Yeah he sure amped the team up. You go back and find any cowboy player past and present that would complain about the score after getting blew out...oh thats right wade and one of his former players. Wade and Brooking made the cowboys look like cream puffs(wades favorite doughnut btw).

thanks for alerting me you do post stupid stuff often.
now I can put you on ignore and save myself from your 'classic' posts.

brooking is a big reason we got the first playoff win in 13 years and wade has a large part in that as well. it wasn't that long ago we were losing to the expansion Texans.

that's embarrassing, not standing up for yourself after classless clowns call play action on a 4th down with under 2 minutes to go in a 25 point game.

and if you didn't see vikings crying perhaps you should try youtube, or merely wiping the tears out of your own eyes. they were crying about the loss but also about calls that went against this before they even got off the field.

anyone with an iota of sense realizes you do not play football like a dbag without retribution coming. the vikes got a bit of it in that tough loss. pretty sure the saints were ready for a play-action pass there

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Our team still seems to believe their press. It kills me that they still have not realized that you are never as good or bad as the press would like you to believe, and you need to prepare for every game like it's your last, instead of thinking you can coast to a victory.

You couldnt be more correct. By the likes of our season ending thrashings.
They prepare for it likes its a ho-hum game.

Yep. And that's my problem with the knee jerk response of "What did Jimmy do when he went to Miami?" as a way to discredit him as a coach.

Guaranteed, if I started a thread and wrote "I really miss Jimmy Johnson as head coach. I think he'd have a lot of success with this current team" I'd get the "Really? If Jimmy is so great, what happened in Miami?" response in no time.

Ya know, Roger Bannister broke the 4 minute mile...let's say in his next race, he ran a 4:02 mile...would the same people be saying "Really? If Roger is so great, what happened in his next race?"

Yeah I dont get that. Plenty of great coaches on did well in once place.

no, he didnt.
for thatall that mattered was winning.

Jimmy was good at lots of things but discipline for him was ON FIELD concern alone.

Ok I will take it.... how much for that??

 

[Seven]

This is both true and false.

Yes, Jimmy liked Walsh better initially. He thought Walsh was a winner after his college career and that Troy was a loser(after his college career)....
After that first season Jimmy took a poll and his coaches votes Walsh as starter.. all but 2. BUT, Bob Ackles and the QB Coach LOVED Troy and saw his potential as did Norv when he was hired. Jimmy got on board and reached out to Troy who wanted to be traded if he wasn't named starter.

Jimmy took Walsh and traded him off to the Saints for a 1st and 3rd though not as high a first as he burned on Walsh obviously... first overall.

All in all Jimmy was the perfect guy for the job when Jerry Jones hired him. He ran his coaches as scouts and position coaches and he was the primary talent evaluator that Jerry trusted. He and Lacewell. He was a tough coach who knew how to turn around the team's attitude. He gave them swagger.

Jimmy hasn't been as good anywhere else because he no longer has that staff he trusts, that staff isn't as good at evaluating talent now because they aren't fresh off of college campuses recruiting all the best high schoolers in the country, and both offensive and defensive schemes have evolved.

Jimmy was a risk taker like Jerry. Jimmy took Cecil Collins in the draft.... He'd draft talent, period, no matter if the guy was an axe murderer. He didn't want choir boys, he wanted talent. He pushed guys hard enough to keep them in line and he never intended the keep that job or his guys a long time. In short Jimmy rode the thing until the wheels fell off. Jerry was too proud and hard-headed to start a real rebuild and instead tried to prolong the team's success by mortgaging it's future. Hello, 13 year playoff win drought.

All that said, Jerry is the one who is here, he stayed, he never stopped working. Jimmy took off like a parent who doesn't pay child support. As good as Jimmy was, he isn't a Cowboy anymore than Bill Parcells was.

You got a link to this story? A title of a book? Something?

 

[Maikeru-sama]

no, he didnt.
Jimmy held bad players accountable.
his better players got away with murder.

that white house stuff happened BECAUSE of Jimmy.
he created the play hard, party hard culture just as he did at Miami.

all that mattered was winning.

Jimmy was good at lots of things but discipline for him was ON FIELD concern alone.

That happens in every facet of life, whether it is Sports, Corporate America, Recreational Activities etc etc.

I am told that Paul Brown was a master of this as well. Espcecially when dealing with Jim Brown.

 

[LatinMind]

F*** jimmy. the guy was on fox on sunday calling the saints the new americas team. you disloyal B**** made mother******.

i love denzel washington in training day

p.s
jimmy the dolphins still want their money back

 

[tyke1doe]

This is both true and false.

Yes, Jimmy liked Walsh better initially. He thought Walsh was a winner after his college career and that Troy was a loser(after his college career)....
After that first season Jimmy took a poll and his coaches votes Walsh as starter.. all but 2. BUT, Bob Ackles and the QB Coach LOVED Troy and saw his potential as did Norv when he was hired. Jimmy got on board and reached out to Troy who wanted to be traded if he wasn't named starter.

Jimmy took Walsh and traded him off to the Saints for a 1st and 3rd though not as high a first as he burned on Walsh obviously... first overall.

All in all Jimmy was the perfect guy for the job when Jerry Jones hired him. He ran his coaches as scouts and position coaches and he was the primary talent evaluator that Jerry trusted. He and Lacewell. He was a tough coach who knew how to turn around the team's attitude. He gave them swagger.

Jimmy hasn't been as good anywhere else because he no longer has that staff he trusts, that staff isn't as good at evaluating talent now because they aren't fresh off of college campuses recruiting all the best high schoolers in the country, and both offensive and defensive schemes have evolved.

Jimmy was a risk taker like Jerry. Jimmy took Cecil Collins in the draft.... He'd draft talent, period, no matter if the guy was an axe murderer. He didn't want choir boys, he wanted talent. He pushed guys hard enough to keep them in line and he never intended the keep that job or his guys a long time. In short Jimmy rode the thing until the wheels fell off. Jerry was too proud and hard-headed to start a real rebuild and instead tried to prolong the team's success by mortgaging it's future. Hello, 13 year playoff win drought.

All that said, Jerry is the one who is here, he stayed, he never stopped working. Jimmy took off like a parent who doesn't pay child support. As good as Jimmy was, he isn't a Cowboy anymore than Bill Parcells was.

Walsh was traded to the Saints for a 1st, a 2nd and a 3rd. Remember, it was called the Lawrence Welk trade ... and a 1 and a 2 and a 3 (cue music).

 

[jcollins28]

F*** jimmy. the guy was on fox on sunday calling the saints the new americas team. you disloyal B**** made mother******.

i love denzel washington in training day

p.s
jimmy the dolphins still want their money back

:bang2: Is it possible to be a Cowboys fan that hates Cowboy fans?..lol Context is everything here. Not sure what world you are living in but pretty much all of America will be pulling for the Saints. This country loves and underdog and the Saints represent New Orleans. Find me a better underdog story then that city and that franchise. So in this sense in this Super Bowl yes the Saints are Americas team.

 

[clutch88]

thanks for alerting me you do post stupid stuff often.
now I can put you on ignore and save myself from your 'classic' posts.

brooking is a big reason we got the first playoff win in 13 years and wade has a large part in that as well. it wasn't that long ago we were losing to the expansion Texans.

that's embarrassing, not standing up for yourself after classless clowns call play action on a 4th down with under 2 minutes to go in a 25 point game.

and if you didn't see vikings crying perhaps you should try youtube, or merely wiping the tears out of your own eyes. they were crying about the loss but also about calls that went against this before they even got off the field.

anyone with an iota of sense realizes you do not play football like a dbag without retribution coming. the vikes got a bit of it in that tough loss. pretty sure the saints were ready for a play-action pass there

Anybody with a chicken for an avatar i will also ignore sir.

 

[clutch88]

thanks for alerting me you do post stupid stuff often.
now I can put you on ignore and save myself from your 'classic' posts.

brooking is a big reason we got the first playoff win in 13 years and wade has a large part in that as well. it wasn't that long ago we were losing to the expansion Texans.

that's embarrassing, not standing up for yourself after classless clowns call play action on a 4th down with under 2 minutes to go in a 25 point game.

and if you didn't see vikings crying perhaps you should try youtube, or merely wiping the tears out of your own eyes. they were crying about the loss but also about calls that went against this before they even got off the field.

anyone with an iota of sense realizes you do not play football like a dbag without retribution coming. the vikes got a bit of it in that tough loss. pretty sure the saints were ready for a play-action pass there

Or penguin sorry..

 

[Fmart322]

If Jimmy was the head coach of the cowboys this season, the team would be on its way to the SB. In my book the guys is a hall of fame head coach

I agree yet there are posters on this site who disagree with you and me on that.
Crazy huh?

 

[forever22]

I hate when people think that bringing in Jimmy would change things. Give me the winning Lotto numbers, since you can see in the future.

Jimmy was great for us but it was a different era. No CAP, teams selling an entire draft to us for one player. He had the help with some very good coaching as well. Some don't know or forget that we almost didn't get Emmitt. Jimmy was looking defense and wanted, Lamar Lathon. He fell and Emmitt was the next best.

People need to lighten up. Nobody is saying he wasn't great for us, just that because he had great years with us doesn't mean he could do the same now.

It takes a lot to win a SB. Good drafting, players, coaching, play calling, non-injuries, lack of mental mistakes and luck.

 

[Sixert]

I agree yet there are posters on this site who disagree with you and me on that.
Crazy huh?

the measure of a good coach is the quality of wins he produces with his talent..

There were 3 hall of famers on those dynasties. the others were were driven by coaching and motivation.

There has been as much talent on this team as any team in the league the last 4 years.

Jimmy would have had 1 of those teams in the SB..

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Reggie Bush ****ing sucks