Joe Milton has 'lottery odds' to become an NFL star

[Stash]

Almost as important as having the mental traits to work w/!!!!

Do you feel that Milton doesn’t have them?

 

[goshann]

Do you feel that Milton doesn’t have them?

his reputation is a 'slow processor'

 

[Blackspider214]

I've seen guys with lottery odds become NFL stars, and I've seen guys with all the tools in the toolbox, and a great head become flops after 2 seasons, so there's that
You never know what the correct coaching, and the correct system can produce

Our coaching and system aren't good, so the chances we actually develop him to level up is very poor.

 

[Spottswoode]

Here's a good example of that:

Weaknesses​

• Has struggled with his decision-making and needs to improve his pre-snap recognition skills to read defenses and see blitzes. Doesn't decipher information as quickly as you would like, but does see the entire field and understands coverage.
• Needs to improve his touch at all levels and know when to gun it and when to take something off his throws. Accuracy is solid, but far from great with streaky ball placement downfield as he tries to thread the needle too much.
• Too often fails to give receivers a chance to make a play after the catch. High completion percentage padded by many quick screens.
• Sails throws to either sideline; receivers make him look good with acrobatic catches. Back-foot throws are not accurate. Sometimes trusts his arm too much, trying to stick passes late in the play or when off-balance.
• Marginal height, which will prove more of a detriment in an offense that asks him to drop back from center more often.

Can you guess who's weaknesses this is?​

Does he play on the West Coast?

 

[Vinnie2u]

If he turns out to be the next Tyler Huntley it'll be a good trade.

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[gimmesix]

Does he play on the West Coast?

He does. And I understand he's an outlier for a late-round pick. No one should be expecting Milton to become the next late-rounder to succeed. Hoping maybe but not expecting.

I just think Purdy is a good example of a player who overcame his supposed weaknesses, including decision-making. For us, Dak and Romo are good examples, although some here would hate those examples because of our lack of playoff success even though that's not all on them.

 

[Vinnie2u]

Our coaching and system aren't good, so the chances we actually develop him to level up is very poor.

I don't know about that our last 2 QB's were developed. Might be luck but who knows

 

[gimmesix]

I've never seen a bad college QB turn into a good pro QB. EVER.

Brett Favre never completed more than 54.8 percent of his passes in college. Milton completed more than 64 percent each of his last two seasons in college with 30 TDs and 5 ints. Favre had 21 TDs to 16 ints. his last two seasons.

Now, Favre entered the league at a different time for QBs (and was an early second-round pick), but he's just one example. Players grow and change. Go figure adults in their early 20s not being at the peak of their adulthood.

 

[blueblood70]

Brett Favre never completed more than 54.8 percent of his passes in college. Milton completed more than 64 percent each of his last two seasons in college with 30 TDs and 5 ints. Favre had 21 TDs to 16 ints. his last two seasons.

Now, Favre entered the league at a different time for QBs, but he's just one example. Players grow and change. Go figure adults in their early 20s not being at the peak of their adulthood.

Josh Allen is another good example... No way do I think that this kids gonna turn into them but yes it's possible that's what we're discussing the possibility is there for this kid to grow and learn and it's a very least we could probably make him a good #2.... I mean Cooper Rush was here how long seven years eight years if we could just create that with a more athletic #2 get more out of him make it more of a threat that would be a positive with this trade...

 

[BoyzBlaster]

Brett Favre never completed more than 54.8 percent of his passes in college. Milton completed more than 64 percent each of his last two seasons in college with 30 TDs and 5 ints. Favre had 21 TDs to 16 ints. his last two seasons.

Now, Favre entered the league at a different time for QBs (and was an early second-round pick), but he's just one example. Players grow and change. Go figure adults in their early 20s not being at the peak of their adulthood.

I never saw Favre play in college.

 

[gimmesix]

Josh Allen is another good example... No way do I think that this kids gonna turn into them but yes it's possible that's what we're discussing the possibility is there for this kid to grow and learn and it's a very least we could probably make him a good #2.... I mean Cooper Rush was here how long seven years eight years if we could just create that with a more athletic #2 get more out of him make it more of a threat that would be a positive with this trade...

I've said this before, I wish we could put Rush's football brain into someone like Milton's body. Milton has all the physical traits to be great. The thing that may keep him from ever even being good enough is his head.

 

[gimmesix]

I never saw Favre play in college.

Fair enough. For all I know, you've only seen one QB in college. For my part, I don't watch much college ball, so the last QB I may have actually watched in college (other than snippets here and there) who played in the pros was Ryan Mallett, and they converted him to receiver.

I have to do a lot of reading draft profiles and watching videos to draw any conclusions about players, and I know those can be flawed. I'm glad we've got some pro video of Milton to watch, but his performance against Buffalo's backup doesn't guarantee he's going to be better than he was in college. It just shows the reasons he was worth trading for.

 

[Chasing6]

Only in our own heads.

No, just trying to have some fun with it. Because of fans and posts are just entertaining as to the likes and dislikes of players, coaches, FO. Especially before we see anything on the field.

Go back and what his film on the field in college. It was not good.

 

[Chasing6]

I agree Cooper rush also got in the way of Lance having any opportunity to prove he can do anything.

he needs to be the only #2 on a team or on a team where he can start all 17 games before we know whether he's a complete bust or not and for sure I would have been one of them that would've been OK to bring him back here to compete with will grier.. I'm OK with that I was..

But in my opinion Milton probably is a better prospect for the Cowboys he's built better he's built like Cam Newton , he's not lean and tall and brittle he's thick athletic ,probably less chance of being banged up, but now at this point we don't know if the Cowboys are going to pick up a veteran Milton has a better shot because he just needs to get as much snaps whether it's garbage time or clean up mop up duty or whenever the quarterback's injured he absolutely let's give these guys more real time on the field...

Possibly our offensive staff could end up being better and more creative I'm in hopes that they get this kid involved in the games as much as possible maybe have packages like taysom hill I know it's not exactly like that but you gotta get guys snaps real snaps you can't bring them in just for one run or a couple of runs a game you need to let them actually run it off and throw the ball occasionally but just give him real opportunities..

Pretty sure Trance got in his own way.

 

[BoyzBlaster]

Fair enough. For all I know, you've only seen one QB in college. For my part, I don't watch much college ball, so the last QB I may have actually watched in college (other than snippets here and there) who played in the pros was Ryan Mallett, and they converted him to receiver.

I have to do a lot of reading draft profiles and watching videos to draw any conclusions about players, and I know those can be flawed. I'm glad we've got some pro video of Milton to watch, but his performance against Buffalo's backup doesn't guarantee he's going to be better than he was in college. It just shows the reasons he was worth trading for.

I would think Favre couldn't have been too bad in college if he merited being the 33rd pick in the draft. The better way of making my point is looking at Bob's post this morning. I'm giving an opinion but he has the facts....which are the odds of Milton amounting to something meaningful are miniscule. It's a mystery to me why this fan base thinks these 2 bit signings are game changers. I still remember all the posts about are run defense being fixed after signing Kelvin Joseph.

 

[Zekeats]

I'd like to see Milton come in for Dak on 4th and short or goal line plays.

Any creative play calling with a mobile QB is better than just running the RB up the middle and getting hit in the backfield.

I'd like to see Milton come in for Dak all of next season.

 

[gimmesix]

I would think Favre couldn't have been too bad in college if he merited being the 33rd pick in the draft. The better way of making my point is looking at Bob's post this morning. I'm giving an opinion but he has the facts....which are the odds of Milton amounting to something meaningful are miniscule. It's a mystery to me why this fan base thinks these 2 bit signings are game changers. I still remember all the posts about are run defense being fixed after signing Kelvin Joseph.

I don't think that most fans think these signings are game-changers. I think most fans just recognize that players aren't finished products coming out of college.

The odds are definitely against Milton, but trading a late-round pick for him based on what he showed last year and the natural ability shouldn't be viewed as a negative.

I think Favre was taken in the second round despite the numbers he put up because of the raw ability he showed. There are definitely other players who've been drafted for the same reason, usually later in the draft. Not many of the late-round picks live up to that raw ability, but with late-round picks, you are most often taking players based on potential rather than proven ability. That's all we've done with Milton.

 

[gimmesix]

I'd like to see Milton come in for Dak all of next season.

That's one reason it would be good if Milton ends up as the No. 2. It bugged me to no end a couple of years back when we were winning blowouts that we were sticking in Rush to finish games. We knew what Rush was at that point and didn't need to develop him.

If Milton is No. 3 this year, then we'll have the same issue. I'm hoping they will give him every shot at earning the No. 2 spot and only bring in a veteran if he sucks.

 

[Chasing6]

I don't know about that our last 2 QB's were developed. Might be luck but who knows

Last two played a lot in college.

 

[BoyzBlaster]

I don't think that most fans think these signings are game-changers. I think most fans just recognize that players aren't finished products coming out of college.

The odds are definitely against Milton, but trading a late-round pick for him based on what he showed last year and the natural ability shouldn't be viewed as a negative.

I think Favre was taken in the second round despite the numbers he put up because of the raw ability he showed. There are definitely other players who've been drafted for the same reason, usually later in the draft. Not many of the late-round picks live up to that raw ability, but with late-round picks, you are most often taking players based on potential rather than proven ability. That's all we've done with Milton.

I feel like we are on two different messages boards if you think the reaction here hasn't been ridiculously and I would say delusionally positive. But I appreciate the civil responses.