Joe Thomas on OBJ run

Need to make a few shocking changes. Let a few of these guys go. But some are young players and getting a chance to see what they can do. Most of these players if cut may not be able to find a new job.
agree. What harm is it at this juncture to find out what other players can do? I just dont get the undying loyalty to these scurvy dogs that coaches seem to believe in. What leads them to think anything will change? I am confused.
 
There is a difference playing in the middle though because typically that is caused by falling for fakes, but on a long developing run like that there is no fake to fall for.
I know the play. I recall it. He does this every danged game. There is a pattern of this. THAT is what he is...just a guy,nothing special and shouldnt be starting. He is costing the team.
 
There is a difference playing in the middle though because typically that is caused by falling for fakes, but on a long developing run like that there is no fake to fall for.
what ails him is what lies between the ears. Dude has rocks for brains when it comes to FB. He may be a great dude..but a football player and starter he is not. I can emphatically say this with confidence, having watched football almost 50 years at each level..and having coached some too. HE lacks a nastiness...coupled with FB SMARTS. Those are 2 things you better have in this league or you just wont have much success.
 
My guess is half of the starters on this defense won't even be here next year.
thats mine as well. MM and Nolan are using Garretts/marinelli's guys largely. My guess is they have loyalty to the former scheme and regime...hence why the poor effort and alsothe recent stupid comments by Jaylon and Dlaw about simplifying the defense. Do these frauds realize they played in a crazy simple defense under Marinelli for several tears? and where did that get us? THEY NEED TO PLAY HARD AND SMART, OR **** AND SIT DOWN.
 
This reminds me of that kick return before halftime against KC 2 years ago. Was it Tyreke Hill? Anyway our players looked like trash out there similar to this play. No one wanted to tackle the ball carrier. They all thought the play would just end. Well it did - with a touchdown for the the opposition.
 
MM is missing an opportunity to send a no nonsense message to the team that lack of effort wont be tolerated. Instead seems he is doubling down on the buffoonery. He is starting to look more and more inept every day that passes. GAWD I hope I am wrong.
 
oh I knew the defense would be behind the learning curve and struggle. But for it to be THIS BAD? WOW..it comes down to 3 things...piss poor prep. Poor fb instincts, and NO EFFORT. Two of those things can be fixed. The 3rd thing is something a player either has or he doesn't. WE HAVE TOO MANY GUYS THAT DON'T AND 2 of them should be benched this week. A message has to be sent.
This would be a good week to bench some players.. We are going against the worst offense in the league. But I bet they run for 100 with no name rbs. And we will get burned deep. They will put up 20-24 points on us.
 
This would be a good week to bench some players.. We are going against the worst offense in the league. But I bet they run for 100 with no name rbs. And we will get burned deep. They will put up 20-24 points on us.
I am already on record , we will lose this game.Not kidding. Is this what it finally takes to shake the Jones' awake?
 
MM is missing an opportunity to send a no nonsense message to the team that lack of effort wont be tolerated. Instead seems he is doubling down on the buffoonery. He is starting to look more and more inept every day that passes. GAWD I hope I am wrong.
It’s a shame because he has a great Offense. Besides the fumbles. If he wasn’t having to throw the ball 50+ times a game Dak wouldn’t have a few of these picks. But even the Offense is a little sloppy.
 
The Giants play hard at least on defense. That will keep them in it. I wanna win, but I have a hunch we will lose.
 
I am already on record , we will lose this game.Not kidding. Is this what it finally takes to shake the Jones' awake?
Was really hoping after the trick play to obj that it would shake up the Defense and they would concentrate make short work of the browns and get on a roll. I do think we beat the giants. If nothing else the giants are trying to sink the season for the draft pick.
 
what a joke of a play. It starts with the guy who gave the most effort and thats Aldon. Yes he has been probably the lone bright spot on this pathetic defense but he blew contain. If he forces that inside then even the rest of the idiots who took incredibly poor angles have a better shot at making the play.Yes he almost made a great play but he also let OBJ outside
 
The Giants play hard at least on defense. That will keep them in it. I wanna win, but I have a hunch we will lose.
Lmao, how could you not have a hunch.

After the first 3 games I thought to myself we were in it till the end on all these games. And lost to 2 teams that will likey have 10+ wins this year and we are getting it together on Defense slowly. But this game they went backwards. Even if the browns win 13 games this year, we got smoked.

We lose this game and the season maybe over. Unless the rest of our division tanks..
 
what a joke of a play. It starts with the guy who gave the most effort and thats Aldon. Yes he has been probably the lone bright spot on this pathetic defense but he blew contain. If he forces that inside then even the rest of the idiots who took incredibly poor angles have a better shot at making the play.Yes he almost made a great play but he also let OBJ outside
Aldon actually played it great. He kept contain didn't bite inside and made odell go wide to get around him. As a DE if you force a reverse wide typically that gives your defense enough time to rally. Sad effort from the other 10 guys.
 
The greatest con is getting the fans to keep caring when the players don't...
^^^^this be true. Discernment is key. We fans been wide awake for few years now. SOME tho...my GAWD...keep buying that snake oil, hook line and sinker. CLEARLY we have a defense chalked full of Marinelli loyalists. MAYBE they want out? Could it be they are purposely playing like garbage?
 
what ails him is what lies between the ears. Dude has rocks for brains when it comes to FB. He may be a great dude..but a football player and starter he is not. I can emphatically say this with confidence, having watched football almost 50 years at each level..and having coached some too. HE lacks a nastiness...coupled with FB SMARTS. Those are 2 things you better have in this league or you just wont have much success.
I suspect until he got to the NFL he was just one of those guys that could "out athlete" others, and that's why he was successful. At the NFL level there are a lot more people that can match his athleticism though, and he can't just overwhelm with his physical skills like he could at lower levels. On top of that, I'm not sure if his physical skills are even as good after his foot issues as they once were.
 
Aldon actually played it great. He kept contain didn't bite inside and made odell go wide to get around him. As a DE if you force a reverse wide typically that gives your defense enough time to rally. Sad effort from the other 10 guys.
he keeps coming up ACES. Aldon was the lone guy with situational awareness that sniffed it out. NOT 1 OTHER COWBOY was within 15 yards of OBJ in the back field. JUST ALDON. That should never happen. THAT is largley terrible prep and lack of fb IQ. Aldon is a manchild.
 
I don't give Nolan blame for this debacle at all. These players are just bad. And if they are sabotaging who cares this staff will be addressing at least half of the defense come the offseason.
I have no confidence in this scheme and the players look like they don't either. Its one thing to suck but to be halfassing and playing dumb?I didn't see that last year. I just saw these guys sucking. There are guys on this team who weren't even here last year doing it. I don't want to just point to Nolan but I also don't just want to say the players are bad. Something is up somewhere.
 
Aldon actually played it great. He kept contain didn't bite inside and made odell go wide to get around him. As a DE if you force a reverse wide typically that gives your defense enough time to rally. Sad effort from the other 10 guys.
Yeah the corner could have came up and forced him out of bounds. Or LB. not sure if they were afraid he was going to stop and throw it or what. But he weaved through the players like they were standing still. And 48 tackles the guy in front of him.
 

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