John Clayton on EE suspension

[diefree666]

For Jerry being so powerful, he sure does get kicked around a lot by Goodell. The NFL must have some party bus footage. Lol

Goodell does not go to the crapper without a majority vote of the owners. Amazed so many do not get this. He is doing EXACTLY what the owners want him to do. If that was not the case he would be gone in a minute.

 

[jazzcat22]

Brady tried that, how'd that work out....... the Supreme court isn't wasting it's time on this nonsense... Zeke needs to grow up and stop pulling women's tops up...

They should spend time on it, as the NFL is a monopoly writing it's own rules that are very biased. And not only against us or our players.
last I knew, the government does not allow monopoly's. And don't say there were or other start up leagues, as the NFL worked to make them go away.

 

[The Quest for Six]

Worst argument ever. Ive been to new orleans. Girls there RANDOM men to pull there tops up or down. Nevermind 21 year old millionaires. You left out the fact she was totally ok with it, and later partied with him in Florida lol

It doesn't matter whether she was OK with or not, you seem to fail to grasp is that the LEAGUE is not OK with it....that's his employer......it puts a bad light on the league and more importantly, it's sponsors, where the league get the billions of dollars...it's a business, first and foremost... IMAGE of the league is what the Commish is looking out for and the billions the league gets from it.. Ask the vikings about image, who lost many sponsors over AP incident....money talks

 

[Teague31]

No worries. I'm sure the appeals process will be held by a neutral and detached body. Oh wait.....

 

[diefree666]

It doesn't matter whether she was OK with or not, you seem to fail to grasp is that the LEAGUE is not OK with it....that's his employer......it puts a bad light on the league and more importantly, it's sponsors, where the league get the billions of dollars...it's a business, first and foremost... IMAGE of the league is what the Commish is looking out for and the billions the league gets from it.. Ask the vikings about image, who lost many sponsors over AP incident....money talks

The RIDICULE the NFL would get if they are that stupid would be fun to watch. Not sure they are not smart enough to see that; but then some on this forum are...

 

[The Quest for Six]

They should spend time on it, as the NFL is a monopoly writing it's own rules that are very biased. And not only against us or our players.
last I knew, the government does not allow monopoly's. And don't say there were or other start up leagues, as the NFL worked to make them go away.

Collective bargaining, players and the league agreed on it, Supreme court isn't wasting it's time on this nonsense nor should they......

 

[phildadon86]

It doesn't matter whether she was OK with or not, you seem to fail to grasp is that the LEAGUE is not OK with it....that's his employer......it puts a bad light on the league and more importantly, it's sponsors, where the league get the billions of dollars...it's a business, first and foremost... IMAGE of the league is what the Commish is looking out for and the billions the league gets from it.. Ask the vikings about image, who lost many sponsors over AP incident....money talks

I can tell you. A cowboys player would have to do something MONUMENTAL for sponsors to pull out of Dallas. Its the Cowboys dude. Zeke could probably kill someone and we would gain sponsors out of it. The commish knows this. The Cowboys represented almost ALL of his ratings last year. You should know better.

 

[viman96]

They are waiting to see if the NFL is dumb enough to do this; then I think the gloves come off.

I would like to think that is the case but I do not recall Jerry ever challenging the league to prevent a player from being suspended.

 

[jazzcat22]

It doesn't matter whether she was OK with or not, you seem to fail to grasp is that the LEAGUE is not OK with it....that's his employer......it puts a bad light on the league and more importantly, it's sponsors, where the league get the billions of dollars...it's a business, first and foremost... IMAGE of the league is what the Commish is looking out for and the billions the league gets from it.. Ask the vikings about image, who lost many sponsors over AP incident....money talks

It must not be that bad of an image, it was in the news, then gone. I haven't seen or read anything on it since.

and was Clayton talking about this top incident or the way to long ongoing BS DV non issue?

 

[reddyuta]

This would not hold up in court, I am not worried.

 

[Western]

This is B.S., if it happens.
If a suspension occurs it will be unjust, unreasonable, & unprecedented given no empirical or direct evidence of any kind showing EE violated any League rule & that the standard of proof for the suspension is arbitrary and biased.

EE through the NFLPA needs to automatically appeal any suspension via the CBA (realizing that Goodell will be the arbitrator in the appeal process, however.)
Now, no doubt Goodell will uphold the suspension.
But the NFLPA can request/ask a Federal District Court to vacate the arbitrator's decision due to a lack of due process & an unfair ruling.
NFLPA can also argue that the arbitrator/Goodell refused to hear pertinent evidence material to the case & lacked impartiality.

In late July 2015, Brady was suspended 4 games and by early September 2015, Federal District Court in Manhattan - Judge Berman dismissed Brady's suspension, allowing Brady to play in 2015 (later the NFL appealed Berman's ruling to the Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, who reversed Berman's ruling). And by April 2016, Brady's suspension was upheld and he was suspended for the first four games in 2016.

If a suspension occurs, there is enough time for EE to play in 2017, but NFLPA needs to be aggressive.
Bottom line -- NFLPA, and EE's legal team must proactively prepare a quality legal defense if that Emperor/Caesar Goodell suspends EE.

 

[jazzcat22]

Collective bargaining, players and the league agreed on it, Supreme court isn't wasting it's time on this nonsense nor should they......

Well ok then, post it some more, why are you so uptight about it.
The Supreme Court waste more time on other crap, so why not this, it is an unfair employer drive agenda making up their own laws.

 

[SportsGuru80]

The NFL is full of ****... The AUTHORITIES have closed the case therefore the NFL needs to back off.

 

[diefree666]

This is B.S., if it happens.
If a suspension occurs it will be unjust, unreasonable, & unprecedented given no empirical or direct evidence of any kind showing EE violated any League rule & that the standard of proof for the suspension is arbitrary and biased.

EE through the NFLPA needs to automatically appeal any suspension via the CBA (realizing that Goodell will be the arbitrator in the appeal process, however.)
Now, no doubt Goodell will uphold the suspension.
But the NFLPA can request/ask a Federal District Court to vacate the arbitrator's decision due to a lack of due process & an unfair ruling.
NFLPA can also argue that the arbitrator/Goodell refused to hear pertinent evidence material to the case & lacked impartiality.

In late July 2015, Brady was suspended 4 games and by early September 2015, Federal District Court in Manhattan - Judge Berman dismissed Brady's suspension, allowing Brady to play in 2015 (later the NFL appealed Berman's ruling to the Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, who reversed Berman's ruling). And by April 2016, Brady's suspension was upheld and he was suspended for the first four games in 2016.

If a suspension occurs, there is enough time for EE to play in 2017, but NFLPA needs to be aggressive.
Bottom line -- NFLPA, and EE's legal team must proactively prepare a quality legal defense if that Emperor/Caesar Goodell suspends EE.

No, Jerry needs to let the other owners understand what he is willing to do in this case. Go to the wall and make t he NFL look bad even if it costs HIM money. THEY will be the ones that tell Goodell to back off.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

For Jerry being so powerful, he sure does get kicked around a lot by Goodell. The NFL must have some party bus footage. Lol

Yup... referees do what they want too.

 

[viman96]

It doesn't matter whether she was OK with or not, you seem to fail to grasp is that the LEAGUE is not OK with it....that's his employer......it puts a bad light on the league and more importantly, it's sponsors, where the league get the billions of dollars...it's a business, first and foremost... IMAGE of the league is what the Commish is looking out for and the billions the league gets from it.. Ask the vikings about image, who lost many sponsors over AP incident....money talks

The Cowboys are his employer the NFL is the governing body.

 

[The Quest for Six]

It must not be that bad of an image, it was in the news, then gone. I haven't seen or read anything on it since.

and was Clayton talking about this top incident or the way to long ongoing BS DV non issue?

How about Zeke taking responsibility and cut out the off field nonsense.....just because a prosecutor doesn't bring charges, it doesn't mean he didn't do it, it's just the fact the the prosecutor doesn't feel he could get a conviction beyond a reasonable doubt....just what Jerry doesn't want, wall to wall coverage from the media of women's group protesting at the death star...

 

[AbeBeta]

Would put them in a hole because the first two games are pretty tough. And 0-2 teams only make the playoffs 10% of the time.

Here we go again with the bad statistics. The vast majority of 0-2 teams are 0-2 because they suck. Very few of those teams add a tremendous, game changing player after the first two games.

0-2 does not cause you to miss the playoffs. 0-2 is largely a result of being a bad team. Bad teams miss the playoffs because they continue to play like garbage.

Would we go 0-2 because we are bad? No. If we had two losses under this scenario it would be a result of missing Zeke. That's a completely different situation that renders 10% statistic meaningless.

 

[phildadon86]

How about Zeke taking responsibility and cut out the off field nonsense.....just because a prosecutor doesn't bring charges, it doesn't mean he didn't do it, it's just the fact the the prosecutor doesn't feel he could get a conviction beyond a reasonable doubt....just what Jerry doesn't want, wall to wall coverage from the media of women's group protesting at the death star...

You do realize there are texts from the girl to his and her friends telling them to lie and say he did it right? Wow. Agenda much?

 

[phildadon86]

Here we go again with the bad statistics. The vast majority of 0-2 teams are 0-2 because they suck. Very few of those teams add a tremendous, game changing player after the first two games.

0-2 does not cause you to miss the playoffs. 0-2 is largely a result of being a bad team. Bad teams miss the playoffs because they continue to play like garbage.

Would we go 0-2 because we are bad? No. If we had two losses under this scenario it would be a result of missing Zeke. That's a completely different situation that renders 10% statistic meaningless.

Didnt we go 0-2 when Emmitt held out? And then win a superbowl?