John Mara on WFAN yesterday

[dbair1967]

The Giants have more reason to confirm that Parcells did call looking for the GM job, because that would create a problem between Jerry Jones and Parcells especially with Parcells not sure if he's coming back, a big blow up between the 2 could push Parcells out the door (victory for the Giants with so few good candidates for head coaches right now). But, they denied the story. I don't think there's any truth to this.

the Mara family would never do that to Parcells

David

 

[aikemirv]

Whatever happened to integrity in reporting ?

Can we not expect the truth anymore ? What is the use of watching or reading if it may not be true to begin with.

So what if Jerry starts to doubt if what Parcells is telling him is true or not, simply because of a story some jerk threw out there. That impacts their trust.

Is that right ? That doesn't bother you ?

You can say "that's the way it is", and it may be so, but that doesn't make it right.

What if people keep telling you that your wife is cheating on you, and she says "no honey, I'm not."

How long before you begin to wonder if its true or not ? Does your trust dwindle somewhat ?

We can't let our society get to the point that we don't demand the truth.

All I am saying is that the only way they can be held accountable is if PEOPLE decide to stop watching it, stop buying tabloid crap. I never said it was right or I liked it, but we as consumers are the only ones who can fix it!!

I would never advocate removing freedom of speech so that is the only solution! I don't want the government involved, do you?

Oh, and by the way, I am not worried about Jerry and BP, I am sure neither put any merit in what ESPN says. They know very well what goes on better than anyone else. They know what stories these guys report are true or not in most cases.

In short, they have seen ESPN's track record up close and personal.

And, if someone with no credibilty, and a known troublemaker tells me my wife is cheating on me, I should know better.

 

[Faerluna]

We can't let our society get to the point that we don't demand the truth.

What does the truth matter anymore? In today's society, the truth is an irrelevant concept.

Even if the Pope told people something was the truth, and it actually was the truth, there would be some idiot out there with a conspiracy theory saying that it was a huge lie and some sort of massive coverup.

Some people will never accept that anything is true, regardless of fact, regardless of statement, if they believe it to be untrue.

Point of reference: any American conspiracy theory from the Kennedy assasination to 9/11.

 

[WV Cowboy]

What does the truth matter anymore? In today's society, the truth is an irrelevant concept.

No disrespect, but the truth still matters. Very much so.

If you don't know the truth, then you can't know what is false.

Jesus said, "I am the way and the truth and the life." (John 14:6)

I realize not everybody agrees, but that is the truth that sustains me.

I know the truth.

 

[Faerluna]

I was generalizing.

Personally, the truth matters to me. Conversely, the truth is relevant to many.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Look at it this way - the only people who would have known about this are Parcells, his representative, and members high up in the Giants organization. I seriously doubt any of those people would be running to the media about this story.

Well, I do know that Sexton's office was leaking info on the Saban deal back in November to people I know. They weren't media members but they were people who followed the Bama football program. Those people were telling me about it back in November and I couldn't believe it. It turned out their info was dead-on accurate. Eventually the media picked up on the information and that's when Saban started getting questions about it in his press conferences and had to start denying the story.

So to say there would not be a leak out of Sexton's office would not be correct.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Well, I do know that Sexton's office was leaking info on the Saban deal back in November to people I know. They weren't media members but they were people who followed the Bama football program. Those people were telling me about it back in November and I couldn't believe it. It turned out their info was dead-on accurate. Eventually the media picked up on the information and that's when Saban started getting questions about it in his press conferences and had to start denying the story.

So to say there would not be a leak out of Sexton's office would not be correct.

Bama was courting WVU's Rich Rodriguez in early December. No mention of Saban at that time.

 

[wileedog]

Well, I do know that Sexton's office was leaking info on the Saban deal back in November to people I know. They weren't media members but they were people who followed the Bama football program. Those people were telling me about it back in November and I couldn't believe it. It turned out their info was dead-on accurate. Eventually the media picked up on the information and that's when Saban started getting questions about it in his press conferences and had to start denying the story.

So to say there would not be a leak out of Sexton's office would not be correct.

Sexton would lose a lot of clients in a hurry if information leaked from his office made it into the press.

If it did happen with Saban, there is a good probability Sexton took great pains to make sure it wouldn't happen again.

 

[cowboyed]

If denial equaled innocence, our prisons would be empty.

If shyte was electricity Parcells would be a living power house.

 

[dbair1967]

Bama was courting WVU's Rich Rodriguez in early December. No mention of Saban at that time.

yeah there was...supposedly he was the 1st person they called and he said he wasnt interested...then they turned to Rodriguez

David

 

[Bob Sacamano]

the truth is we'll never know...the only people who really know are Parcells and the Giants owners...and both have reasons why they WOULD deny it after the fact...

I am not saying I know it happened or even believe it happened, but I know it MIGHT have happened and I know Parcells has a history doing things like this...and both parties have reasons why they'd want to deny it, Parcells because he doesnt want Jones to can him, and the Mara's because they are close friends of Parcells and dont want to see him hurt

David

so after reading through all that

you basically think Parcells did contact the Giants?

 

[dbair1967]

so after reading through all that

you basically think Parcells did contact the Giants?

have no idea, but wouldnt be surprised...he has a history of such things...thats all my point is, I wouldnt be so quick to discount it when the guy has done it before

David

 

[Bob Sacamano]

have no idea, but wouldnt be surprised...he has a history of such things...thats all my point is, I wouldnt be so quick to discount it when the guy has done it before

David

I'm not totally discounting it, but there's serious interest, and passive interest, even if Bill is in fact telling the truth about this, there's no doubt in my mind that BP has entertained the thought of becoming their GM, it's called keeping your options open, it's obvious BIll wants to continue being active in the NFL, or he'd be gone already

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Bama was courting WVU's Rich Rodriguez in early December. No mention of Saban at that time.

Sorry, but that's the public story.

Saban was, from the beginning, Bama's top target, but Sexton was telling Bama they had to wait until after the NFL season ended. Sexton told Bama that Saban was genuinely interested but Saban would not discuss it with them until after the Dolphins season ended. There was a large faction of the Alabama athletic office that didn't want Saban because it was known that he would come in and clean house. Those people convinced Mal Moore, the Alabama AD, that it was too risky to wait until January to try and land Saban and that they needed a sure thing. Mal Moore thought Rodriguez wanted the job so he offered it to him. Rodriguez declined and Bama went back to Plan A. That's why things went so quiet for over a month after Rodriguez turned the job down.

I know for a fact that is the real story.

 

[wileedog]

have no idea, but wouldnt be surprised...he has a history of such things...thats all my point is, I wouldnt be so quick to discount it when the guy has done it before

David

I would find it a lot harder to dismiss if it was some random team like the Vikings or Browns or something. The fact that its the Giants makes it such an easy (and lazy) leap for some reporter to print speculation as fact.

Anythings possible I suppose, and there is no arguing Bill has a history of offseason shennanigans, but certainly not enough evidence to convict either.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I would find it a lot harder to dismiss if it was some random team like the Vikings or Browns or something. The fact that its the Giants makes it such an easy (and lazy) leap for some reporter to print speculation as fact.

Anythings possible I suppose, and there is no arguing Bill has a history of offseason shennanigans, but certainly not enough evidence to convict either.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Sorry, but that's the public story.

Saban was, from the beginning, Bama's top target, but Sexton was telling Bama they had to wait until after the NFL season ended. Sexton told Bama that Saban was genuinely interested but Saban would not discuss it with them until after the Dolphins season ended. There was a large faction of the Alabama athletic office that didn't want Saban because it was known that he would come in and clean house. Those people convinced Mal Moore, the Alabama AD, that it was too risky to wait until January to try and land Saban and that they needed a sure thing. Mal Moore thought Rodriguez wanted the job so he offered it to him. Rodriguez declined and Bama went back to Plan A. That's why things went so quiet for over a month after Rodriguez turned the job down.

I know for a fact that is the real story.

That's cool, what do you think they would have done if Rodriguez had accepted ?

That would have been a bummer if they really wanted Saban.

Both WV boys I might add.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Sexton would lose a lot of clients in a hurry if information leaked from his office made it into the press.

If it did happen with Saban, there is a good probability Sexton took great pains to make sure it wouldn't happen again.

I don't know. People talk to friends and info gets out.

Parcells being interested in a front office/personnel type job is very believable, so I do not discount the story that he or his agents were inquiring in an "unofficial/testing the waters" type capacity.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

That's cool, what do you think they would have done if Rodriguez had accepted ?

That would have been a bummer if they really wanted Saban.

Both WV boys I might add.

No doubt the job would have gone to Rodriguez. That's why I, as a Bama alum, was happy when he turned the job down, because I wanted Saban.

I do wish Saban would have just told reporters from the beginning he would not address rumors and stopped it at that, but he got cornered by the Miami reporter who put him on the spot in a PC when he told Saban, "You haven't said I won't be Alabama's coach". Saban was in a corner and responded, "Well if I have to I will say it...". Within hours after that PC I heard from my source that Saban was highly disgusted that he allowed himself to be put in that spot and he told Sexton so immediately after that PC. The word I heard is that he was kicking himself and very angry and told Sexton, "What was I supposed to say?!" Those words came back to bite him in the rear when the season ended and he accepted the job.

I found it fascinating to hear what was really going on in a situation that was in the Sports news so prominently. It made me realize there is a lot more going on than the public realizes and that's why I don't doubt Parcells is looking out for his future even while employed by Jerry and the Cowboys.