Jonathan Cooper on track for a starting job

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If you want to believe Dallas Cowboys.com's Bryan Broaddus, Cooper lost a lot of his mobility after breaking his leg as a rookie in Arizona. He says Cooper plays with power but has a lot of trouble in space and blocking targets on the move.

However, he will be surrounded by all-pros, and perhaps they can help raise his level of play as well.

Broaddus has never explained how a broken leg forever makes you less mobile.
 

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Broaddus has never explained how a broken leg forever makes you less mobile.

http://www.nepatriotslife.com/2016/03/film-review-if-healthy-jonathan-coopers.html

His rookie season ending before it started was certainly disappointing, but many expected a breakthrough season from a player regarded as a rare talent coming out as a draft prospect. However, injuries derailed his second season as well, as he seemed to come out of the gates slowed by his recovery from that broken leg. He had his knee drained during training camp and was revealed before the start of the regular season to be dealing with a "significant" turf toe injury by GM Steve Keim. Cooper played through the injury but was limited enough to be beaten out by journeymen Ted Larsen and Paul Fanaika for the two starting guard spots. He would get his first starting experience in Week 14 thanks to an injury to Fanaika, but a wrist injury sent him back to the bench after making just two starts during his second season.

Finally healthy, Cooper was a began last season as a starter for the first time in his career. While there were flashes of the talent that made him such a highly touted prospect coming out of college, there wasn't enough consistency for coach Bruce Arians liking, particularly in pass protection, where 60 guards allowed less pressure on a per-snap basis, according to PFF. A knee injury suffered in Week 10 opened the door for Larsen to take his place in the starting lineup, and the veteran journeyman held on to his starting job for the remainder of the season. Overall, Cooper started just 11 games in the two seasons following his lost rookie year, and was traded amid whispers that he might be moved to center in a make-or-break fourth season with the Cards.
 

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http://www.nepatriotslife.com/2016/03/film-review-if-healthy-jonathan-coopers.html

His rookie season ending before it started was certainly disappointing, but many expected a breakthrough season from a player regarded as a rare talent coming out as a draft prospect. However, injuries derailed his second season as well, as he seemed to come out of the gates slowed by his recovery from that broken leg. He had his knee drained during training camp and was revealed before the start of the regular season to be dealing with a "significant" turf toe injury by GM Steve Keim. Cooper played through the injury but was limited enough to be beaten out by journeymen Ted Larsen and Paul Fanaika for the two starting guard spots. He would get his first starting experience in Week 14 thanks to an injury to Fanaika, but a wrist injury sent him back to the bench after making just two starts during his second season.

Finally healthy, Cooper was a began last season as a starter for the first time in his career. While there were flashes of the talent that made him such a highly touted prospect coming out of college, there wasn't enough consistency for coach Bruce Arians liking, particularly in pass protection, where 60 guards allowed less pressure on a per-snap basis, according to PFF. A knee injury suffered in Week 10 opened the door for Larsen to take his place in the starting lineup, and the veteran journeyman held on to his starting job for the remainder of the season. Overall, Cooper started just 11 games in the two seasons following his lost rookie year, and was traded amid whispers that he might be moved to center in a make-or-break fourth season with the Cards.

Broaddus and others keep talking about him losing mobility. NONE of those injuries that have been listed on him would do so. All were injuries that heal without lasting effects. From all accounts he is healthy and that seems to be why he is doing well.
 

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Broaddus and others keep talking about him losing mobility. NONE of those injuries that have been listed on him would do so. All were injuries that heal without lasting effects. From all accounts he is healthy and that seems to be why he is doing well.

i agree. the article i referenced has several videos showing his elite mobility AFTER the injury. i cannot tell who is who is these videos but someone may be able to figure it out.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-c782Sz7PLYo/VumRXjmG6mI/AAAAAAAADkE/7URmQuzLmb0EATj_Vpo-aqIVYCLCtUm2w/s320/corner+blitz.gif

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zSJTIMGY...sSoiIdy9SCU0pWIdQcshxpA/s320/coop+2+level.gif
 

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Also, I don't see the "power" with Cooper either.
the article states his primary problem is lack of technique.
"Normally, such technique issues would be alarming for a player entering his fourth season, but Cooper is essentially still a rookie when it comes to live NFL experience. The good news is those kind of issues are correctable, and Cooper will know have arguably the best in the business in Dante Scarnecchia coaching him up."
 
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Also, I don't see the "power" with Cooper either.

Its a little more subtle with cooper than say Lael. No pancakes but he gets the job done which in the end is what matters. I would prefer consistency of getting the job done less flamboyantly then a pancake offset by a sack.
 

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If you want to believe Dallas Cowboys.com's Bryan Broaddus, Cooper lost a lot of his mobility after breaking his leg as a rookie in Arizona. He says Cooper plays with power but has a lot of trouble in space and blocking targets on the move.

However, he will be surrounded by all-pros, and perhaps they can help raise his level of play as well.
He is wrong as usual. He stills moves fine.
 

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the article states his primary problem is lack of technique.
"Normally, such technique issues would be alarming for a player entering his fourth season, but Cooper is essentially still a rookie when it comes to live NFL experience. The good news is those kind of issues are correctable, and Cooper will know have arguably the best in the business in Dante Scarnecchia coaching him up."

That quote is not from the article at the link in the OP. That quote is from last year with a reference to the Patriots OL coach.
 

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My analysis of Cooper was he was fine in pass protection. I thought his technique looked good for the most part. His footwork was very good, but sometimes his hand technique was off. Didn't look like a hand placement issue, but more of a timing issue and that could cause him to reach a little. Still, Leary was better in pass pro than he was in run blocking. Leary's run blocking could be very good at times, but he usually was average to above average and his consistency was probably his best attribute. The offense had some issues with Collins at LG last season because Collins' pass pro could be off although it was usually due to recognition issues. So if we can get Leary's type of pass pro, I think the offense will run well.

In zone blocking I thought Cooper was so-so. He looked like a guy that hasn't seen a lot of playing time and needs more reps. It's one thing to get reps in practice, but it's another to get actual game reps against an opponent you're not familiar with and who is trying to embarrass you at any cost. I didn't see any mobility issues or strength issues. In fact, I liked his quickness which is a big part of the battle with zone blocking. Zone blocking requires such precision to really get everything firing on all cylinders and Cooper was getting it right on some plays and wasn't on others.

I still believe if everybody stays healthy, there's no reason why this can't be the best O-Line, yet. I think Cooper has more upside than Leary (and I like Leary) and I think Collins has a world more of upside than Free. My guess is that Collins' size, athleticism and strength will provide an upgrade over Free in pass protection.




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Granted I am no expert on OL play, I was watching Cooper most of the snaps he was in there and I never saw a mistake. I'll really be watching him when he goes against some better competition.
 

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Surprisingly good and agile to me. His blocks seem to be on point.
This video is a good sequence to see Cooper (And La'el and Rico).

I really like the 4th play in that sequence where he carries #72 down the line and out of the frame. That's great blocking on the Zone Stretch that is a staple of the Cowboys running scheme.

 
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This video is a good sequence to see Cooper (And La'el and Rico).

I really like the 4th play in that sequence where he carries #72 down the line and out of the frame. That's great blocking on the Zone Stretch that is a staple of the Cowboys running scheme.


untrained eyes, but rico blocks look pretty good
 
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