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Do you think Jones and Murray will be a successful 2 back combination?

I think both are excellent backs and I can see them both starting. But that's the problem both (I believe) want to start. So not to ruffle any feathers do you think we will see equal work from both backs in games?
 
KoRnyBrad;4610062 said:
Do you think Jones and Murray will be a successful 2 back combination?

I think both are excellent backs and I can see them both starting. But that's the problem both (I believe) want to start. So not to ruffle any feathers do you think we will see equal work from both backs in games?

I think both are very good backs and I think they can work well together. I think the big key will be the blocking in front of them. If you are having to avoid getting tackled in the backfield it makes it difficult on a RB
 
Every player on the roster should want to start, if you just want to sit on the bench...get the hell off of any professional team.

I don't see that mentality as a problem, especially now that Entitlement Son of Bum is gone.

The entire offense is depending on the success of the O-Line.
 
KoRnyBrad;4610062 said:
Do you think Jones and Murray will be a successful 2 back combination?

I think both are excellent backs and I can see them both starting. But that's the problem both (I believe) want to start. So not to ruffle any feathers do you think we will see equal work from both backs in games?
IMO
You MUST give Murray a fair shot at a full workload. he was so ridiculously good when they let him carry the load that the guy looked like a potential NFL rushing champ.

Felix could be an outstanding complimentary back.
 
I think we have a good combo and you got too add Vickets at the FB position, more touches for Murray but I also think we will split our backs out wide as receivers, and Felix can be our KR.
 
It's all about match-ups.

Garrett is smart enough to game-plan, accordingly.

I really hope Garrett intends to use Jones in a similar way Preston Pearson was used back the in 70's - as more of a wing back that took a lot of pitch-outs and screens - although Jones has more than proven his able to run between the tackles.

A strong dose of Murray as our primary back with our FB leading the way, followed by a dual backfield with Jones and Murray with Jones in the capacity as wing-back would be lethal... then, throw in Witten, Dez, Miles, et al.... wow - it could be one awesome offense.

If we can only block...
 
KoRnyBrad;4610062 said:
Do you think Jones and Murray will be a successful 2 back combination?

Depends largely on the OL (+ Vickers) and play calling. Individually and as a unit they are talentwise more than good enough to succeed.

KoRnyBrad;4610062 said:
I can see them both starting. But that's the problem both (I believe) want to start.

Would've been a problem if only one of them wanted the starting job.

KoRnyBrad;4610062 said:
Do you think we will see equal work from both backs in games?

No, I believe they will feature Murray and change things up with Jones. Murray should get some rest.
 
DFWJC;4610078 said:
IMO
You MUST give Murray a fair shot at a full workload. he was so ridiculously good when they let him carry the load that the guy looked like a potential NFL rushing champ.

Felix could be an outstanding complimentary back.
In games when they were both on the field, Felix had a better ypc than DeMarco, by a huge margin (4.59 to 3.33) in the same number of carries (90 for Felix, 89 for DeMarco). I'm not prepared to anoint one over the other.
 
I am very much looking forward to seeing Murray back on the field.

I think both he and Jones can make a great combo.
 
Murray is gonna be the dude. Felix might come in on some third downs or to give Murray a breather. I could also see some formations with both in the game. I'm not overly thrilled with Felix returning kicks. It just doesn't look like he has it any more in that department.
 
ABQcowboyJR;4610175 said:
Murray is gonna be the dude. Felix might come in on some third downs or to give Murray a breather. I could also see some formations with both in the game. I'm not overly thrilled with Felix returning kicks. It just doesn't look like he has it any more in that department.


IDK No doubt in my mind he's better. I'd still prefer a tight rotation of perhaps 3 to 2 plays in favor of Murray. It's the best way to keep both players fresh and healthy. I want Murray at his best late in the season.
 
jimnabby;4610154 said:
In games when they were both on the field, Felix had a better ypc than DeMarco, by a huge margin (4.59 to 3.33) in the same number of carries (90 for Felix, 89 for DeMarco). I'm not prepared to anoint one over the other.
I think the season numbers and the eye test both say Murray is the better back to give most of the load to.
Dallas was a different team when Murray was carrying the load.
 
sonnyboy;4610198 said:
IDK No doubt in my mind he's better. I'd still prefer a tight rotation of perhaps 3 to 2 plays in favor of Murray. It's the best way to keep both players fresh and healthy. I want Murray at his best late in the season.
I have to disagree. I feel we are a far better team with him running the football than any other back on the roster. I see your point about Murray's health concerns. That was one of the question marks that surrounded him when he was coming out. However, if we don't play well in the beginning of the season the end isn't really gonna matter.
 
I like Murray, I have high expectations for this kid... IM very excited if he stays healthy which has been a problem.. As far as Jones goes, big picture where we drafted him he has to be considered a major dissapointment... I only say that because of where we drafted him.. The kid is expolosive, he has talent in the open field and I believe will be a good change of pace back next season.. The problem is of course is..he has to stay on the field.. The guy is hurt all the time.. Im excited for this backfield and if our O line has improved Im excited for this O, I truly am...
 
I truly feel Murray is going to be great... lets just hope he stays on the field
 
I can see them in the backfield together sometimes. I think Murray will start and Jones will give him a break at times.
 
I think Murray will get the starting nod as well. Just the way he ran last season when Jones was out showed he can run IMO. I think Jones will be a good back to throw in against an exhausted defense. Now if they can just both stay healthy all year! Should be a great battle in camp. Can't wait to watch!
 
KoRnyBrad;4610062 said:
Do you think Jones and Murray will be a successful 2 back combination?

I think both are excellent backs and I can see them both starting. But that's the problem both (I believe) want to start. So not to ruffle any feathers do you think we will see equal work from both backs in games?


Felix Jones and DeMarco Murray complement one another very well like Bill Callahan has stated. Their running styles are very different, and they are two different types of running backs. However, both backs can run the exact same plays. This can challenge a defense, because they have to be ready for both players. Plus, the defense has to deal with the sudden change in real time. It will be interesting to see how the carries break down, but there should be enough carries for both running backs in the Dallas offense. Felix Jones has excelled in both roles ("starting" and "change of pace"). Jason Garrett has stated this fact, and Jones' production when rushing in the double digits will back him up.

During the past 3 seasons, Felix Jones has been given the opportunity to rush the football in the double digits 22 times. That includes 2 playoff games in 2009. Jones averaged 14.3 rushes per game in those 22 games. Here are those stats:

315-1593 (5.1 YPC)

Now, compare the numbers above to Felix's career rushing stats:

488-2543 (5.2 YPC) (2 playoff games included)

Again, when the Cowboys have fed Felix Jones the rock, in the double digits, Jones has delivered the goods to the Cowboys. Again, Felix Jones has proven to be extremely explosive and extremely productive in the 14-16 rush range during the past three seasons. Furthermore, Jones can tote the rock 20+ times in a game if you need him to do that, too.

I think the Cowboys should field their best offensive line since 2009, except the 2012 version should have youth and upside on its side. The Cowboys ran the football 394 times that season (regular season). Felix Jones hung a 146-902-4 (6.2 YPC; LG 73T) season on his ledger (16 games; including the playoffs). Jones had runs of 56, 40, 46T, 49T, and 73T in 2009. Last season, Tyron Smith re-opened the entire field (including both edges) in the running game. Smith's impact in the running game is very underrated, and I fully expect the Cowboys to run his way a bunch this season. Smith is an elite run blocker.

Despite Jason Garrett not committing to a "starter" at running back, the Dallas media has pretty much crowned Murray as the ultimate. However, being the "change of pace" back might not be such a bad thing for Felix Jones if that does unfold. With players like Tyron Smith, Nate Livings, Phil Costa, Ronald Leary/MacKenzy Bernadeau, and Doug Free, I could see Felix Jones pushing 1.000 rushing yards and doing it in the 150-170 rush range. Jones will definitely be lurking and waiting for his opportunities. Felix is a very competitive player who played with Darren McFadden.

The Cowboys just have to make sure that Jones gets his carries/touches, especially at home and especially inside the division. Felix Jones is just too explosive of a football player, and he is a clutch player, too. Jones has delivered the goods to the Cowboys when it has mattered the most. Simply, Jones needs the football in his hands. Again, Jones can do either role. He can "start" or be the "change of pace". That doesn't really matter, imo. Getting the football in Jones' hands is what matters the most.

Based on my re-search of Bill Callahan, especially his outside zone with the Jets, I think Callahan will want to take advantage of Jones' unique talent and skill set. Jones will "change your pace" alright. The Cowboys are very justified when they give Felix Jones the football, and Jones' numbers will back them up.
 
Ronald Leary has work to do in order to win the right guard spot, but I think he can win the RG job and shock the world. Leary is a big, strong, physical, tough, athletic player who should not be under-estimated. Leary has outstanding length, and he's smart. There will be an adjustment, but I think the Cowboys can win with him now.

I think the Cowboys have a good chance to sport the best offensive line in the NFC East (led by Tyron Smith). I'm excited about the offensive line, because I saw how terrible it was in 2010, especially the right side. The Eagles lost Jason Peters, and they are said to have the best line. I think the offensive line is being underrated, and I think the defensive line is being overrated.

The overall FB play should be vastly improved with Lawrence Vickers. Replacing Martellus Bennett's very good run blocking is somewhat of a concern, imo. If anyone knows the impact of Bennett in the running game, it's definitely Felix Jones.
 

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