Jones & Woods fined for actions in Chiefs game

[Hardline]

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

 

[Richmond Cowboy]

Anyone have a gif or video of the block? At the time it looked perfectly clean but I had a few beers on board.

 

[DogFace]

Karl Marx is a Cowboys fan? Who knew?

How’d I know where you’d stand on something like that?

There’s some kid freely running in your front yard!!!


GET HIM!!!

 

[Kevinicus]

Sure, a shoulder to shoulder blindside. Yes you do need to see the play again.

Like I said, the blindside aspect (facing back towards our goalline) was there. The hit to the head area (which makes a blindside illegal) I am not sure about.

 

[Kevinicus]

Anti-Cowboy bias anyone?

It's the going rate for that penalty. Many others got the same.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

I have no idea how AJ Green wasn't suspended for what he did.

He has tiger stripes on his helmet instead of a star.

 

[Nightman]

Hardly. Wanting fines to be fair to the player and adjusted to be an equal level of penalty is not being Marxist. A rookie on a sixth round contract getting a $24k fine is BS, while that may not even be a punishment to another player.

Players can get that reduced on appeal......... there is a rule in the CBA that says a fines cannot be more than 1/4 of his game check...... if he makes 500k a year that is approx 30k a game so the max fine would be around 7.5k

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

Was the blind side block the one that Pereira said was perfectly legal? If it was, you have to just shake your head at this failing league.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

So the Cowboys have been fined the same amount as the rest of the NFCE combined

Well, Zekes suspension accounts for most of it.

 

[Nightman]

24,000 for a rookie on a 6th round contract? Ridiculous

Here is the CBA that shows it will be reduced to no more than 25% of his game check or 7.5k

Article 46 sec1 part d
(d)
The schedule of fines for on-field conduct will be provided to the NFLPA prior to the start of training camp in each season covered under this Agreement. The 2011 schedule of fines, which has been provided to and accepted by the NFLPA, shall serve as the basis of discipline for the infractions indentified on that schedule.
The designated minimum fine amounts will increase by 5% for the 2012 League
Year, and each League Year thereafter during the term of this Agreement. Where circumstances warrant, including, but not limited to, infractions that were flagrant and gratuitous, larger fines, suspension or other discipline may be imposed.

On appeal, a player may assert, among other defenses, that any fine should be reduced because it is
excessive when compared to the player’s expected earnings for the season in question. However, a fine may be reduced on this basis only if it exceeds 25 percent of one week of a player’s salary for a first offense, and 50 percent of one week of a player’s salary for a second offense.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Jerry- hey guys I need my copter hand washed. I'll pay you $25k each to do it. Get a check Jerry jr from the blue star
Acct.

Guys- will do boss.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Jerry - hey guys can y'all walk my dogs I'll pay you 50k each. Tell Jerry jr to use the pappa John checks.

Guys - yes sir boss

 

[AzorAhai]

This is something that doesn’t get the press the poor handling of suspensions get, but needs to be addressed equally as bad. There’s just no rhyme or reason how these are handed out. Let alone for how much. There’s needs to be a specific guideline for how much a specific fine is. Unnecessary roughness that is deemed fine worthy should equal a set% of that players salary up to a maximum as an example. There’s no reason a 6th round pick should be penalized 24k for that hit.

You’re never going to have a perfect fine system because there’s always going to be discretion involved. What is and isn’t worthy isn’t going to be able to be classified in a rule book. What can be done is fix the amounts.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

Here is the CBA that shows it will be reduced to no more than 25% of his game check or 7.5k

Article 46 sec1 part d
(d)
The schedule of fines for on-field conduct will be provided to the NFLPA prior to the start of training camp in each season covered under this Agreement. The 2011 schedule of fines, which has been provided to and accepted by the NFLPA, shall serve as the basis of discipline for the infractions indentified on that schedule.
The designated minimum fine amounts will increase by 5% for the 2012 League
Year, and each League Year thereafter during the term of this Agreement. Where circumstances warrant, including, but not limited to, infractions that were flagrant and gratuitous, larger fines, suspension or other discipline may be imposed.

On appeal, a player may assert, among other defenses, that any fine should be reduced because it is
excessive when compared to the player’s expected earnings for the season in question. However, a fine may be reduced on this basis only if it exceeds 25 percent of one week of a player’s salary for a first offense, and 50 percent of one week of a player’s salary for a second offense.

Nice find but you’re misinterpreting the language in question. It does NOT say that a fine may be no more than 25% of the player’s game check. It merely says that a fine may be reduced (by an unspecified amount) on appeal, but ONLY IF the amount of the fine exceeds 25% of the player’s game check (or 50% in the case of a second offense).

So in this case, assuming Woods’s game check is $30K, he is elible to appeal for a reduction (since this is a first offense and $24K exceeds 25% of $30K) but there is no guarantee the fine will be reduced on appeal and certainly no rule that says it will be reduced to no more than $7.5K.

Anyway, I appreciate your digging up the language. I learned something.

 

[Hawkeye19]

Was the blind side block the one that Pereira said was perfectly legal? If it was, you have to just shake your head at this failing league.

Totally agree. His helmet was inside the opposing players shoulder pads as he was pursuing the returner. That block has been thrown ever since football was invented.

 

[arglebargle]

The initial fines levied get reported. The adjustments due to appeal almost never get reported.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Woods should not pay that fine at all. That hit was clean and that flag was BS.

 

[mardwin]

Woods should not pay that fine at all. That hit was clean and that flag was BS.

It has little options, we know how the appeal process works with the NFL.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I would appeal that for 24k...this league is sick right now.

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAA..............yea, lets appeal that to the impartial and totally fair arbitrator Harold Henderson

 

[Beast_from_East]

Woods should not pay that fine at all. That hit was clean and that flag was BS.

I don't think he gets the option to pay or not, I think the league docks it from his game check. Kinda like when you get your paycheck and taxes and stuff is already deducted, money already gone when you get your check so it doesn't matter if you want to pay it or not.

Same deal and even for the sake of argument he decided not to pay............well that has suspension written all over it and if you don't like it, take it up with the 2nd circuit.