Jonesitis of the Offense Has Infected Cowboy Fans

[eromeopolk]

KC's defense was similar to ours across the board last season

So we had a Safety the quality of my homeboy Mathieu, teamed him with no. 1 pick Thornhill, we had a DT the caliber of Chris Jones, and matched him with a pro bowler like Frank Clark.

No you are incorrect that your defense was similar to KC's defense unless you list all the ex Cowboys Jerry let go from Dallas to KC.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

Dallas will have triplets. Dallas must have triplets. Jerry gets suicidal if Dallas doesn't have triplets.

In fact they've tried to doubled down on triplets. Two number one WR, two stud RB's and two starting caliber QB's.

Still no defense though.

 

[Williamsboys]

During the draft I Knew we were taking a pass rusher or secondary player with our first pick, but when Cee Dee Lamb wasn't selected yet, I was all aboard for the wide receiver. I have watched enough Sooner's football to see this kid is electric.

 

[Swanny]

The majority of the post I see are about offensive players QB, RB, OL, TE, and WR. But the first pick in Dallas Cowboys draft History was DL Bob Lilly. The Cowboys have chosen with the 1st overall pick 1 QB and 2 DL. Both Landry and Jimmy Johnson selected DL with the no.1 overall pick in Ed Jones and Russell Maryland. The Cowboys famous Dirty Dozen draft was headlined by 1st round pick Randy White. The first significant Cowboys free agent signing was DB Deion Sanders. They traded for defensive players on other teams that are in the Ring of Honor (Chuck Howley and Charles Haley). One is the only Super Bowl MVP on a losing team and the other has the most Super Bowl Rings by a Defensive player.

So why Cowboy fans caught this infectious disease from Jerry Dumbo GM Jones about focus on offensive players? Defense wins championships. Jerry would not had a 3rd Super Bowl after firing Jimmy Johnson without Deion and win a 1st without Johnson trading for Charles Haley. How did those trades for Joey Galloway, and Roy Williams WR work out?

With all the hype about CeeDee Lamb, Cooper, Dak, Elliott, the OL, etc. who is going to stop the other team from scoring more points than the Cowboys and bring that Dallas Doomsday scenario for the 2020 season? The Cowboys will have 3 new starters in the secondary of which 2 could be rookies, 3 new starters on the DL of which none were on the team last year, played for losing teams, will be rookies, or 1st year starters. Neither Smith, Vander Esch, or Lee has started or completed the season as starters from the prior year (2 full seasons in a row together). When was the last time Cowboy fans said our defense makes us Super Bowl contenders?

So I do not know where this Super Bowl talk is coming from the Cowboy Village at the Star. The Cowboys need difference makers, game changers, and reliable (not off the team or in the tub) players on defense to challenge for a Super Bowl. Until you see that problem solved, there will be no joy in Cowboyville tonight.

I'd argue that NFL fans have NFLitis. The NFL is an entertainment league. They only care about $$$$. It's the goal to get every fanbase to think they have a chance every year. Or just get people tuned in to watch for fantasy stats. NFL fans are suckers. NFLitis is a serious condition that can only be cured watching lower level football where players play for the love of the take and coaches coach to make men or young men better in life.

Discussions like this Jerry loves to see or here.

 

[cern]

"Reading is fundamental". But avoid the point like Jerry and you will be in the same spot you have been the last 25 years...posting about why the Cowboys can not get to the Super Bowl.

It was a Supplemental pick that could have felled anywhere in 32 slots of the 1st round the following year. Steve Walsh was a draft pick in the 1989 Supplemental draft that cost Dallas its first round pick in the 1990 draft. So Steve Walsh was not the 1st overall pick in the 1990 draft. Jeff George was the no.1 overall pick of the 1990.

But again like Jerry, you have missed the point for the 25th year in a row.

I have not missed the point at all. Walsh was taken based on the perception he was a franchise qb. We traded him for a #1,2,and 3 pick. It worked out well for the cowboys. Strawman arguments do not buttress a sound argument. Neither does argumentum ad hominem.

 

[Kaiser]

I have not missed the point at all. Walsh was taken based on the perception he was a franchise qb. We traded him for a #1,2,and 3 pick. It worked out well for the cowboys. Strawman arguments do not buttress a sound argument. Neither does argumentum ad hominem.

They picked Walsh with a pick going into the 1989 season where they finished 1-15. Jimmy was running player tryouts on the field every week. Its absurd to say that pick could have been anywhere from one to 32 in that draft. There is no way it would have ever been out of the top five.

The top five in 1990 where the player went with the pick they gave up was Jeff George, Blair Thomas, Cortez Kennedy, Keith McCants and Junior Seau. Jimmy loved Seau, Emmitt went 17th.

 

[Kaiser]

It was a Supplemental pick that could have felled anywhere in 32 slots of the 1st round the following year.

That would have been hard to do given the NFL only had 28 teams.

 

[eromeopolk]

I'd argue that NFL fans have NFLitis. The NFL is an entertainment league. They only care about $$$$. It's the goal to get every fanbase to think they have a chance every year. Or just get people tuned in to watch for fantasy stats. NFL fans are suckers. NFLitis is a serious condition that can only be cured watching lower level football where players play for the love of the take and coaches coach to make men or young men better in life.

Discussions like this Jerry loves to see or here.

This is professional football so it is about money. However, I do not feel warm and fuzzy about college football that has Head Coach free agency and require college football players to stay after a Coach lies and tells them I am going to be here for you. I do not feel warm and fuzzy when college AD's talk about playing football games during a pandemic without students but require students to play on the field for money.

So enjoy what you are going to enjoy. However, the Cowboys are not going to contend for a Super Bowl without a Super Bowl contending defense with reliable, available, and play making defensive players.

 

[Future]

KC had a good defense, they only allowed 1 td and 1 fg per half.
The game was 10-10 at the half.
KC scored 21, SF 10 in 2nd half, so was it all KC offense, or a combo of good defense and good offense that won the game?

IMO shanahan blew the game for SF, they could have won with different tactics, and play calling.
Defense plays a bigger part in SB wins than offense.

Great defense...


KC's defense was fine, but it more benefitted from the fact that the 9ers can't throw the ball downfield. Building a prolific and consistent passing offense is the best way to be a Super Bowl contender in the modern NFL. That's why KC won, not because of their defense.

 

[Rockport]

The majority of the post I see are about offensive players QB, RB, OL, TE, and WR. But the first pick in Dallas Cowboys draft History was DL Bob Lilly. The Cowboys have chosen with the 1st overall pick 1 QB and 2 DL. Both Landry and Jimmy Johnson selected DL with the no.1 overall pick in Ed Jones and Russell Maryland. The Cowboys famous Dirty Dozen draft was headlined by 1st round pick Randy White. The first significant Cowboys free agent signing was DB Deion Sanders. They traded for defensive players on other teams that are in the Ring of Honor (Chuck Howley and Charles Haley). One is the only Super Bowl MVP on a losing team and the other has the most Super Bowl Rings by a Defensive player.

So why Cowboy fans caught this infectious disease from Jerry Dumbo GM Jones about focus on offensive players? Defense wins championships. Jerry would not had a 3rd Super Bowl after firing Jimmy Johnson without Deion and win a 1st without Johnson trading for Charles Haley. How did those trades for Joey Galloway, and Roy Williams WR work out?

With all the hype about CeeDee Lamb, Cooper, Dak, Elliott, the OL, etc. who is going to stop the other team from scoring more points than the Cowboys and bring that Dallas Doomsday scenario for the 2020 season? The Cowboys will have 3 new starters in the secondary of which 2 could be rookies, 3 new starters on the DL of which none were on the team last year, played for losing teams, will be rookies, or 1st year starters. Neither Smith, Vander Esch, or Lee has started or completed the season as starters from the prior year (2 full seasons in a row together). When was the last time Cowboy fans said our defense makes us Super Bowl contenders?

So I do not know where this Super Bowl talk is coming from the Cowboy Village at the Star. The Cowboys need difference makers, game changers, and reliable (not off the team or in the tub) players on defense to challenge for a Super Bowl. Until you see that problem solved, there will be no joy in Cowboyville tonight.

Vegas baby:

ODDS TO WIN 2020-21 SUPER BOWL LV (2/7/21)
Team Odds
Kansas City Chiefs 6/1
Baltimore Ravens 13/2
San Francisco 49ers 10/1
New Orleans Saints 12/1
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 13/1
Dallas Cowboys 17/1
Philadelphia Eagles 20/1
Seattle Seahawks 22/1
Indianapolis Colts 25/1
Minnesota Vikings 25/1
New England Patriots 25/1
Pittsburgh Steelers 25/1
Buffalo Bills 28/1
Green Bay Packers 28/1
Tennessee Titans 30/1
Los Angeles Rams 33/1
Atlanta Falcons 40/1
Chicago Bears 40/1
Cleveland Browns 40/1
Los Angeles Chargers 45/1
Arizona Cardinals 50/1
Denver Broncos 50/1
Houston Texans 50/1
Detroit Lions 66/1
Las Vegas Raiders 66/1
Miami Dolphins 70/1
New York Giants 70/1
New York Jets 70/1
Carolina Panthers 100/1
Cincinnati Bengals 100/1
Washington Commanders 100/1
Jacksonville Jaguars 150/1

 

[eromeopolk]

I have not missed the point at all. Walsh was taken based on the perception he was a franchise qb. We traded him for a #1,2,and 3 pick. It worked out well for the cowboys. Strawman arguments do not buttress a sound argument. Neither does argumentum ad hominem.

Your response shows that your argument, not reading with understanding, and comprehension is WAKHAKWI-MES.

 

[Future]

So we had a Safety the quality of my homeboy Mathieu, teamed him with no. 1 pick Thornhill, we had a DT the caliber of Chris Jones, and matched him with a pro bowler like Frank Clark.

No you are incorrect that your defense was similar to KC's defense unless you list all the ex Cowboys Jerry let go from Dallas to KC.

The Cowboys had way more talent across the board than that KC Super Bowl roster last year.

Better at DE, LB and CB by a lot. Thornhill didn't even play in the playoffs.

 

[atlantacowboy]

You would be hard pressed to find a franchise with a better history at QB.

Don Meredith, Craig Morton, Roger Staubach, Danny White, Troy Aikman, Steve Walsh, Tony Romo and Dak Prescott. Show me one team who can match that list, I don't believe there is one.

It always makes me chuckle just a little bit when I see fans freak out about being able to find a QB. We've pretty much always had one with the exception of a few years at the end of Danny's career and the drafting of Troy. That's really only like 2 or 3 seasons and the early 2000s between Troy and Tony. But the fans still freak out and lose their minds over having to go out and find another QB. It's kind of crazy to me.

Steve Walsh? lol. Dude started 5 games during a 1-15 season.

 

[glimmerman]

We will have a new Defense this year. Or a new scheme. Players will have to learn this. But for once in a long time we have paid attention to DT and have a few run stuffers and a push. They are older players but should still have some gas in the tank. Hoping this changes some things with more consistent pressure from the middle. Don’t give the QB all day to stand there or don’t give him a pocket to step up into in. Should help our younger starters in the secondary. Maybe get some ints.

ST should be better.

Most people now a days likes the excitement of scoring and the big plays. JJ is a salesmen and wants to keep the attention on him and the team. No better way to do it then have flashy players and put up points. Even though we need a Defense and ST to win it all.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Steve Walsh? lol. Dude started 5 games during a 1-15 season.

Yeah, Steve Walsh. I mean, we did trade him to New Orleans for a 1st and 3rd round pick. He did play in the NFL for 10 years. You don't see that as value? Really?

 

[Swanny]

This is professional football so it is about money. However, I do not feel warm and fuzzy about college football that has Head Coach free agency and require college football players to stay after a Coach lies and tells them I am going to be here for you. I do not feel warm and fuzzy when college AD's talk about playing football games during a pandemic without students but require students to play on the field for money.

So enjoy what you are going to enjoy. However, the Cowboys are not going to contend for a Super Bowl without a Super Bowl contending defense with reliable, available, and play making defensive players.

I agree I don't like college either

 

[CouchCoach]

In order to call out the pick of Lamb, I would truly need to know what a team, and which team, might have been offering in trade. If, for instance, NYJ had been offering Adams for that pick or they could have picked up a high 2nd and 3rd, then I question the pick but that was a value pick. And other than Burrow, the most attention grabbing pick and that matters to this owner.

Chances are if every owner were his own GM, they'd all be heavy lean to the O side, that's the entertainment and fun side. And it is all about the show to this owner/GM.

 

[MarcusRock]

You would be hard pressed to find a franchise with a better history at QB.

Don Meredith, Craig Morton, Roger Staubach, Danny White, Troy Aikman, Steve Walsh, Tony Romo and Dak Prescott. Show me one team who can match that list, I don't believe there is one.

It always makes me chuckle just a little bit when I see fans freak out about being able to find a QB. We've pretty much always had one with the exception of a few years at the end of Danny's career and the drafting of Troy. That's really only like 2 or 3 seasons and the early 2000s between Troy and Tony. But the fans still freak out and lose their minds over having to go out and find another QB. It's kind of crazy to me.

Yes, if only we'd been successful in drafting Paxton Lynch or Connor Cook like we wanted when we backed into Prescott. Why would anyone be alarmed at this team looking to find a QB at the rate they pan out?

 

[CouchCoach]

This is professional football so it is about money. However, I do not feel warm and fuzzy about college football that has Head Coach free agency and require college football players to stay after a Coach lies and tells them I am going to be here for you. I do not feel warm and fuzzy when college AD's talk about playing football games during a pandemic without students but require students to play on the field for money.

So enjoy what you are going to enjoy. However, the Cowboys are not going to contend for a Super Bowl without a Super Bowl contending defense with reliable, available, and play making defensive players.

All college athletics are about money as well, what isn't about money in this country?

The dependence on college athletics to even keep the doors open for some is huge and never more apparent than during this pandemic. Football is the #1 revenue stream for most major colleges.

 

[MarcusRock]

I'd argue that NFL fans have NFLitis. The NFL is an entertainment league. They only care about $$$$. It's the goal to get every fanbase to think they have a chance every year. Or just get people tuned in to watch for fantasy stats. NFL fans are suckers. NFLitis is a serious condition that can only be cured watching lower level football where players play for the love of the take and coaches coach to make men or young men better in life.

Discussions like this Jerry loves to see or here.

Lower level players are playing for the glory that they can parlay into $$$$.