Julius Jones Running Woes...

[superpunk]

There was an interesting quote from Parcells today, in his PC.

Expectations for Julius?
Hope to see an improved player, and see a better sense of timing. He's well conditioned and prepares hard. We have good depth there now, so we don't have to depend on one guy. I expect Barber to have a greater role this year, and he has an advantage in that he was well schooled in pro football before he got here. His transition to this league was quick.

Now, while I'm sure we have all, at times, mentioned something to this effect, (i.e. Julius just slamming into line, with no regard) it does often get lost when we bash the line (and deservedly so).

But maybe it's not all the line's fault.

What are your thoughts, on why exactly Julius slumped most of the year? Injury? Is it the Bledsoe effect? Is it lack of familiarity with the new pieces on the line?

What is it?

 

[5Stars]

Maybe he did not have the right kind of lemons?

 

[Diehardcowboy]

Doesn't matter, the man says you still got to make the lemonade!

 

[stealth]

julius is a one dimensional back with an ego that bruises and I suspect at the cost of confidence.

he isn't feature back material.

 

[superpunk]

julius is a one dimensional back with an ego that bruises and I suspect at the cost of confidence.

he isn't feature back material.

So you put it squarely on Julius' shoulders? Because I've seen plenty of times when he is not having success, but continually gives it his all - and you can tell. He's shown an ability to carry the load, he's even shown some superstar ability.

I think there's alot more involved than just a fragile ego.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

There was an interesting quote from Parcells today, in his PC.

Expectations for Julius?
Hope to see an improved player, and see a better sense of timing. He's well conditioned and prepares hard. We have good depth there now, so we don't have to depend on one guy. I expect Barber to have a greater role this year, and he has an advantage in that he was well schooled in pro football before he got here. His transition to this league was quick.

Now, while I'm sure we have all, at times, mentioned something to this effect, (i.e. Julius just slamming into line, with no regard) it does often get lost when we bash the line (and deservedly so).

But maybe it's not all the line's fault.

What are your thoughts, on why exactly Julius slumped most of the year? Injury? Is it the Bledsoe effect? Is it lack of familiarity with the new pieces on the line?

What is it?

I actually blame Purcells... he had him start doing that "two-hands on the football" nonsense as he went through the line which appeared to this layman to totally destroy JJ's timing.

 

[WilmingtonHeel]

You guys are so quick to jump the gun. Let the young man ball and stay healthy and we'll see how good he is. BP has a way of motivating players with ability

 

[stealth]

So you put it squarely on Julius' shoulders? Because I've seen plenty of times when he is not having success, but continually gives it his all - and you can tell. He's shown an ability to carry the load, he's even shown some superstar ability.

I think there's alot more involved than just a fragile ego.

see i don't think he has at all, he pulled some great games out of his butt.

I don't think he is consistant enough and I am sorry to say he doesn't have more than a couple moves and he almost always goes the same direction.

he doesn't get past the first guy to touch him hardly ever and the times he pulls a long run out he isn't touched at all.

I am not a jujo fan

 

[superpunk]

I actually blame Purcells... he had him start doing that "two-hands on the football" nonsense as he went through the line which appeared to this layman to totally destroy JJ's timing.

Yeah, but you blame either Parcells or Bledsoe for just about everything - soooo......

It might have something to do with it - but even with two hands on it, you still should be able to at least find where your hole is supposed to be. Was it just not there? Or was he not patient enough in finding these holes?

 

[jobberone]

I suspect JJ has been slowed my injuries altho I don't think that is all there is to it. I'd say the problem is multifactorial.

I'm hoping he doesn't appear to have a problem this year.

 

[superpunk]

see i don't think he has at all, he pulled some great games out of his butt.

I don't think he is consistant enough and I am sorry to say he doesn't have more than a couple moves and he almost always goes the same direction.

he doesn't get past the first guy to touch him hardly ever and the times he pulls a long run out he isn't touched at all.

I am not a jujo fan

Obviously.

As wo why not, I can't understand that. The guy has shown gamebreaking ability. All you have to do is watch a few highlights and you can see the sick moves he has. Somethign was just obviously wrong last year.

 

[America's Team]

I think he was just tryin to play it safe and not get injured

 

[superpunk]

I think he was just tryin to play it safe and not get injured

The more I think about it - the more I think it had alot to do with familiarity - in terms of hitting the holes correctly. I mean, he had Rivera to adjust to - and Pettiti - a completely new right side. After that, Flo is out, leavig him with Tucker - maybe some familiarity, but TT flat out sucked. As a RB, he's got to get used to when a pulling guard is going to get outside, or seal off the corner to cut back in - and that can take some time.

Consider Clinton Portis, in 05 and 06. I don't really believe he got that much better in 06 - but he became familiar with his linemen. Familiar with the scheme. and his production soared. Julius might just be gearing up to do the same - although to a lesser extent, sharing the load as he is.

 

[burmafrd]

You might be onto something there. The line sucked for sure last year- but it also had different players almost every week. Timing is something a back has to figure out by watching his O linemen. When you keep getting new people, thats gotta do something.
By the way, listening to BP in training camp about any player is pretty much worthless. He is all about mind games and misleading people.

 

[dargonking999]

Lets remember though guys, Emmitt Smith, the all time leader as well all know,

had one of the best years of his career in his third year

posted 2nd most yards in his career, thrid most TD's and 3rd Highest YPC.

Now while we're all excited about JJ, to me this should at least be his year to show if he can be a RB for the future

 

[Screw The Hall]

I look at JJ as a great back when put in ideal situations. If you get the play blocked perfectly he'll maximize the yards that play will get you, if someone misses a block or the play doesn't get run just so, he's not going to get much alot of the time.

I look at Barber as almost the polar opposite type of runner. If somebody misses a block or the play breaks down a little, he still can make some positive things happen for you on any given play. Conversely if the play is run and blocked just the way it was intended, then he might not maximize the gains like say JJ would.

For quite some time now unfortunately ... we've gotten the less ideal of the two scenarios more often than not ... thus lending the situation more favorable to a back like Barber most of the time IMHO. That doesn't mean you want it that way. Ideally we get the OL blocking better and the plays run more technically sound so that a guy like JJ can take advantage of his enormous talent.

Of course this is an over simplification of the two backs styles, they both can do a little of what the other one is best at. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Rack]

What the hell is Parcells talking about? JuJo would be hitting his peek if not for Parcells ruining him! It's all Parcells' fault!

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Barber may be da Man!

 

[burmafrd]

I have yet to see MB do anything even close to what JJ can do. Juke someone, fake them out of their socks, freeze em, nothing close to that. MB is a good back- nothing more. Solid and reliable- as long as he doesn't get a blister and holds onto the ball- but not someone who will ever be a long term starter.

 

[5Stars]

What the hell is Parcells talking about? JuJo would be hitting his peek if not for Parcells ruining him! It's all Parcells' fault!

How you feeling today, sucker?