June 1st Cuts

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I would like to see where you've seen a change proposed

like i said initially: i thought i saw a proposal for a change and i could be wrong.

it seems i was wrong cause when i looked deeper i didnt see anything.

 

[dogunwo]

like i said initially: i thought i saw a proposal for a change and i could be wrong.

it seems i was wrong cause when i looked deeper i didnt see anything.

So who wins the "length" contest?

 

[LD Fan]

One of the 2 of them is actually my wife. Always has to have the last word.

 

[ZeroClub]

Aunt Bee I heard will be cut by Andy Griffith and Opie. She probably could help out at dt.

Nah.

Aunt Bee "The Oven" Taylor has an attitude problem: link


She's also lost a lot of her quickness, likely due to excessive weight.

 

[adamknite]

i thought they had made it that you could designate cuts prior to June 1 for the next cap year. Or have they not instituted it yet? It makes sense for all parties involved.

[FONT=verdana, arial][SIZE=-1] The NFL did make a rule change that each team may designate and cut up to two veteran players prior to June 1st and consider them June 1st cuts. Meaning they can cut them before June 1st but they don't count against the cap until June 1st, so the player can become a free agent right away instead of having to wait until June 1st.

Edit: Could I possibly have said "June 1st" anymore in that post? lolZ
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[WoodysGirl]

[FONT=verdana, arial][SIZE=-1] The NFL did make a rule change that each team may designate and cut up to two veteran players prior to June 1st and consider them June 1st cuts. Meaning they can cut them before June 1st but they don't count against the cap until June 1st, so the player can become a free agent right away instead of having to wait until June 1st.

Edit: Could I possibly have said "June 1st" anymore in that post? lolZ
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So, in other words, Summer was wrong. Which I knew from the get-go.

But instead of either one of them looking up the rule, they chose to see who could pee the farthest.

 

[adamknite]

So, in other words, Summer was wrong. Which I knew from the get-go.

But instead of either one of them looking up the rule, they chose to see who could pee the farthest.

Pretty much.

I had heard something about it before but wasn't sure on the details. I saw this thread, went to Google and typed "NFL June 1st cuts" and found more info on the topic.... not that hard.

 

[LD Fan]

So, in other words, Summer was wrong. Which I knew from the get-go.

But instead of either one of them looking up the rule, they chose to see who could pee the farthest.

LMAO It's an amazing behavioral trait on message boards. I think it's like men not asking for directions. Can't be explained but easily observed.

 

[AsthmaField]

Prior to this year, when June 1st arrived teams could cut veterans and the remaining portion of their signing bonus would be divided into this year and next instead of just this year only (if cut before June 1st). So if you had 4 million remaining from their signing bonus... you would have 2 million hit this season and 2 million the next if cut after June 1st. However, if cut before June 1st, all 4 million would be accelerated into this year's cap.

Teams were holding on to players (until after June 1st) that they had no intention of keeping, simply in order to divide their cap hit into two seasons instead of just one. So, the NFL, in order to give those players more time to catch on with other teams... before all the cap dollars are spent and before teams have pretty much finalized their rosters... said that two players could be designated as post June 1st cuts, even if cut prior to June 1st. That allows teams to divide the remaining cap hit into two seasons while still letting the players get on the market with plenty of time to spare.

That is the sum of the change... at least that's how I understand it.

So, I would say that most teams have probably cut who they're going to cut and the chances of landing a solid player after June 1st would be slim. I'm not saying that it can't happen... but most teams likely played under the spirit of the new rule and cut those guys loose way before now. JMO, of course.

 

[Stash]

One name that's got me a bit curious is Mewelde Moore - RB from the Vikings. I haven't heard that he will be cut, but given the team's investment in Chester Taylor, and now Peterson, he may get caught up in a numbers crunch.

He looks to be a solid all-around back with some punt return ability. And personally, I'd feel better about anyone not named Terrance Newman returning punts next year (for fear of injury).

I think Moore could be a decent upgrade over Tyson Thompson if neither Jackie Battle or Alonzo Coleman show anything in training camp.

 

[adamknite]

Prior to this year, when June 1st arrived teams could cut veterans and the remaining portion of their signing bonus would be divided into this year and next instead of just this year only (if cut before June 1st). So if you had 4 million remaining from their signing bonus... you would have 2 million hit this season and 2 million the next if cut after June 1st. However, if cut before June 1st, all 4 million would be accelerated into this year's cap.

Teams were holding on to players (until after June 1st) that they had no intention of keeping, simply in order to divide their cap hit into two seasons instead of just one. So, the NFL, in order to give those players more time to catch on with other teams... before all the cap dollars are spent and before teams have pretty much finalized their rosters... said that two players could be designated as post June 1st cuts, even if cut prior to June 1st. That allows teams to divide the remaining cap hit into two seasons while still letting the players get on the market with plenty of time to spare.

That is the sum of the change... at least that's how I understand it.

So, I would say that most teams have probably cut who they're going to cut and the chances of landing a solid player after June 1st would be slim. I'm not saying that it can't happen... but most teams likely played under the spirit of the new rule and cut those guys loose way before now. JMO, of course.

Actually i don't think it's a 50/50 cut. I could be wrong and if I am I'm sorry. But I believe it's less the year you cut the player and like Double the next year. So a guy with 3 Million left on his prorated signing bonus would count 1million the first year, and 2 million the next.

Using your example a guy with 4mil left would count 1.33 mil this year and 2.67 mil the next. I believe.

 

[ZeroClub]

One name that's got me a bit curious is Mewelde Moore - RB from the Vikings. I haven't heard that he will be cut, but given the team's investment in Chester Taylor, and now Peterson, he may get caught up in a numbers crunch.

He looks to be a solid all-around back with some punt return ability. And personally, I'd feel better about anyone not named Terrance Newman returning punts next year (for fear of injury).

I think Moore could be a decent upgrade over Tyson Thompson if neither Jackie Battle or Alonzo Coleman show anything in training camp.

Moore has a fine attitude.

Moore says he's up for challenge

By Judd Zulgad, Star Tribune

 

[AsthmaField]

Actually i don't think it's a 50/50 cut. I could be wrong and if I am I'm sorry. But I believe it's less the year you cut the player and like Double the next year. So a guy with 3 Million left on his prorated signing bonus would count 1million the first year, and 2 million the next.

Using your example a guy with 4mil left would count 1.33 mil this year and 2.67 mil the next. I believe.

You may be right... I just thought it was always instead of 100% in the current year, that if cut after June 1st, 50% would go into the current year with 50% going into the following.

Maybe someone who knows for sure can let us know because I'm just going off of memory and I may not be correct about the 50/50 thing.