June Jones no longer at SMU

[jterrell]

Deion has it made now. There is no way he would want that job.

That's probably not true on any front.
Deion;s prep school is basically dead.
His attempt to merge into another school seems to have fizzled.

His salary is small.

A Head Coaching gig where he makes a lot of money to be th efact of the program and pick his staff would very likely appeal to him.

There are lots of obstacles to getting this past a board but I think Deion would very likely take the job if offered.
And I think a board could be convinced this drastic a step was needed if they want to ever play a power 5 conference.

Right now the Big 12 is the only real way in to a power 5 that's left out there.
They should have their choice of the top 2-4 remaining schools. SMU should have as it's ultimate goal to be one of them.
To get there they have to win and win big in the next 3-4 years.

 

[joseephuss]

Gimmick? Yes. Program building? Can't agree.
The guy started his own charter school then recruited from all over the country.

Deion knows how to go get talent and he knows talent wins.

That's probably not true on any front.
Deion;s prep school is basically dead.

His attempt to merge into another school seems to have fizzled.

Your example is that he built his own charter school, but now you say that school is dead. That sort of shows that he can't program build. I don't think he would bring long term stability. He would be a one year wonder at best and I truly doubt he would even bring that to SMU.

 

[Aikbach]

Your example is that he built his own charter school, but now you say that school is dead. That sort of shows that he can't program build. I don't think he would bring long term stability. He would be a one year wonder at best and I truly doubt he would even bring that to SMU.

His name is mud with adults that want to be adults. He's "Primetime" to people that want autographs, he is an egomaniacal narcissist, the player version of Jerry Jones, and we know what kind of GM/ coaching credibility Jerry has.

 

[big dog cowboy]

That's probably not true on any front.
Deion;s prep school is basically dead.
His attempt to merge into another school seems to have fizzled.

His salary is small.

A Head Coaching gig where he makes a lot of money to be th efact of the program and pick his staff would very likely appeal to him.

There are lots of obstacles to getting this past a board but I think Deion would very likely take the job if offered.
And I think a board could be convinced this drastic a step was needed if they want to ever play a power 5 conference.

Right now the Big 12 is the only real way in to a power 5 that's left out there.
They should have their choice of the top 2-4 remaining schools. SMU should have as it's ultimate goal to be one of them.
To get there they have to win and win big in the next 3-4 years.

Do you know how much he is getting paid from NFLN? I've read his net worth is $40M.

 

[Aikbach]

Do you know how much he is getting paid from NFLN? I've read his net worth is $40M.

Deion would have to be blowing through cash to suddenly want an SMU job, which mind you had to turn to its top 20 richest boosters to pay June Jones outside of the athletic budget, because his 2.5 million fee was too steep to cover.

 

[jterrell]

Your example is that he built his own charter school, but now you say that school is dead. That sort of shows that he can't program build. I don't think he would bring long term stability. He would be a one year wonder at best and I truly doubt he would even bring that to SMU.

I am not a fan of Deion any tangible way.

But I am able to give credit where it is due.
Deion built a dominant sports program at Prime Prep in a couple years.

He could easily recruit. FAR easier than ANY person mentioned and possibly wanting the job.

SMU has very little to lose. The football program right now is one of the few that find a way to lose money.

If they want to pull in the financial support of people like Eric Dickerson they better take drastic steps and quickly.
Deion would get those Pony Express boys back on campus and show them love.
He'd recruit 5 star athletes.
And you don't always win with top ranked classes but everyone who has won had top ranked classes.

SMU needs to get attention and bring in better athletes.
Deion is perfect for those two goals.

 

[jterrell]

Do you know how much he is getting paid from NFLN? I've read his net worth is $40M.

Of that net worth 28.5 Million is his two homes.
His taxes on those homes are more than his yearly income at this point.
He has child support to pay and obviously wants to stay involved with working with kids and sports.

He'd get roughly 3m per year from SMU.
He'd LOVE to do all the TV stuff and crap that came with it.

 

[jterrell]

His name is mud with adults that want to be adults. He's "Primetime" to people that want autographs, he is an egomaniacal narcissist, the player version of Jerry Jones, and we know what kind of GM/ coaching credibility Jerry has.

his name is mud with white conservative adults.
he is beloved in the hood where he'd recruit.
smu starts winning big and he'd be loved in highland/university park too.

 

[jterrell]

http://espn.go.com/dallas/college-f...aments-downfall-smu-mustangs-football-program

 

[Aikbach]

his name is mud with white conservative adults.
he is beloved in the hood where he'd recruit.
smu starts winning big and he'd be loved in highland/university park too.

You must be unfamiliar with the dynamic of SMU

 

[jterrell]

You must be unfamiliar with the dynamic of SMU

you must be unfamiliar with how desperate SMU is.
they haven't recovered from an obnoxious penalty 20 years ago.

it is beyond pointless for them to simply make a hire.
they have to basically change the entire dynamic of the program and do so in a way that the world notices.

right now SMU gets more press for sexual assault on campus then its football team.
those rich donors like winning.

Baylor has hired some ethically challenged folks, Dave Bliss anyone?
Any school will reach for less than ideal candidates when desperate and it is clearly time for SMU to think "wayyyy" outside the box.

Deion is hardly the only possible hire but following the blueprint of hiring the current hot asst coach is basically just putting off the inevitable and losing the program.

If Deion was at SMU they'd have Ricky Seals Jones in all likelihood. And they'd probably have a few Baylor recruits as well.

 

[Aikbach]

you must be unfamiliar with how desperate SMU is.
they haven't recovered from an obnoxious penalty 20 years ago.

it is beyond pointless for them to simply make a hire.
they have to basically change the entire dynamic of the program and do so in a way that the world notices.

right now SMU gets more press for sexual assault on campus then its football team.
those rich donors like winning.

Baylor has hired some ethically challenged folks, Dave Bliss anyone?
Any school will reach for less than ideal candidates when desperate and it is clearly time for SMU to think "wayyyy" outside the box.

Deion is hardly the only possible hire but following the blueprint of hiring the current hot asst coach is basically just putting off the inevitable and losing the program.

If Deion was at SMU they'd have Ricky Seals Jones in all likelihood. And they'd probably have a few Baylor recruits as well.

SMU doesn't care about athletics on an administrative level, and the 1989 death penalty bars many of their biggest donors from stepping in with generous donations to upgrade facilities and pay top dollar.

One of SMU's greatest hurdles is it is in Dallas, no college sports town, a transplant city with 4 world famous pro sports teams, there is no local interest in SMU. The NCAA set out to kill the program in 1989 and they succeeded.

 

[Rogah]

I think Deion would love all the high profile, in front of the camera stuff that comes with being a head coach. However, I have zero faith in him performing the 70 hours per week of real work that goes on behind the scenes and is necessary for a head coach to be successful.

 

[coogrfan]

I think Deion would love all the high profile, in front of the camera stuff that comes with being a head coach. However, I have zero faith in him performing the 70 hours per week of real work that goes on behind the scenes and is necessary for a head coach to be successful.

Yup. Deion at Smoo = Clyde Drexler at UH 2.0.

 

[jterrell]

SMU doesn't care about athletics on an administrative level, and the 1989 death penalty bars many of their biggest donors from stepping in with generous donations to upgrade facilities and pay top dollar.

One of SMU's greatest hurdles is it is in Dallas, no college sports town, a transplant city with 4 world famous pro sports teams, there is no local interest in SMU. The NCAA set out to kill the program in 1989 and they succeeded.

The biggest donors have changed. That was 20 years ago. Most of those guys wouldn't be contributing now anyways.

SMU can succeed in Dallas and when they were winning this was very much a sports town.
With The basketball team doing well last year they had Garrett, Romo and many other pro athletes attending college basketball games.

They can easily follow the Baylor blueprint. Baylor distanced mightily from it's Southern Baptist roots when growing it's athletics department after 30 years as an also ran.

All schools like SMU can find donors if they work them and they win.
SMU has it easier than most because it has one of the richest student bodies outside the Ivy League.

 

[jterrell]

I think Deion would love all the high profile, in front of the camera stuff that comes with being a head coach. However, I have zero faith in him performing the 70 hours per week of real work that goes on behind the scenes and is necessary for a head coach to be successful.

Yup. That would be the deal you get into.
And why you'd have to have Deion hire the right people to actually coach the team.
The OC and DC would have carte blanche and Deion would be the walk around face of the team that recruited and sold the program.
It is a desperate measure for a desperate team.

But it would immediately become the biggest news story in the state and likely even lead ESPN coverage.

Recruiting would spike so fiercely I could coach them versus the mostly spares they play in conference USA.

 

[Aikbach]

The biggest donors have changed. That was 20 years ago. Most of those guys wouldn't be contributing now anyways.

SMU can succeed in Dallas and when they were winning this was very much a sports town.
With The basketball team doing well last year they had Garrett, Romo and many other pro athletes attending college basketball games.

They can easily follow the Baylor blueprint. Baylor distanced mightily from it's Southern Baptist roots when growing it's athletics department after 30 years as an also ran.

All schools like SMU can find donors if they work them and they win.
SMU has it easier than most because it has one of the richest student bodies outside the Ivy League.

Baylor distanced intself from Christian roots? It's the only P5 stadium I've been to where a Christian prayer invocation precedes the coin toss, and a team chaplain is employed by the university with an emphasis on mental, physical, academic and spiritual needs all being part of the dynamic of player facilitation.

And Baylor was an also ran with Grant Teaff? Scott Drew didn't throw himself at Baylor Basketball because he was a Baptist that wanted to resurrect the program?

As for SMU, the biggest donors have changed via legal necessity, the deepest pockets remain sidelined.

They struggled to come up with 2 million via boosters for June Junes, they ain't getting 3 million for untested Deion Sanders.