Hoofbite;4217463 said:
Anyone who wasn't big on Free prior to this year wasn't basing their opinion on his play from last year because he was pretty damn solid. And even if someone wanted to hang on to the idea that Free didn't earn his contract leading up to it, Garrett still co-signed on his new deal.
I wasn't big on Free based on his play. He wasn't worth the big deal it would have taken to keep him.
That's what I said then and he's backed me up with his mediocre play this year. He's decent, nothing more.
I don't know what choice Garrett had in that. When you have nothing at the position you kind of have to keep anything resembling a player.
And as I said regarding Kosier, "serviceable".
Right. Instead of having a young quality player there, Garrett inherited a declining aging vet who on his best day you can say is "serviceable".
Regardless of why Tyron is playing, he's Garrett's guy. Not that Tyron even matters because he's been one of the better players on the line thus far.
Both tackles, Garrett's choice.
He's a Garrett guy but for this season alone they'd be better off with a quality vet there. Just for the rookie mistakes alone. But we don't have another option there due to years of inept drafting.
He's the guy running the offense.
He's coordinating the offense. He's not running the personnel department. I suggest you brush up on job titles and the responsibilities of each.
First and foremost, how do you know who does or does not have say? What are you basing that on?
Uh, their position in the organization?
Anybody who thinks coordinators are selecting players in NFL war rooms during the draft has their head up their rear end.
Why would Jerry have Jason sit in the war room if his input meant nothing?
Well, see....now you have to change my stance to make yours look better. I didn't say he had no input. I said he was no better than 5th in command with those picks on offense.
Garrett was hand picked by Jerry to be the HC of this team BEFORE WADE WAS HIRED.
Completely irrelevant to the discussion.
Garrett had sole control over the offense. Do you really think that Martellus was drafted because Wade had some great idea of running the 2-TE formation as the primary offense?
Or was that Jerry's idea?
Garrett has complete control in designing and coordinating the offense. He never had complete control over selecting players for that offense. No coordinator does. Otherwise they'd be in the front office.
Of course Garrett was in on the TE talk. But the identity of that TE was on the scouts. Hey, we could use a TE. Well here are the guys we have value grades on at that spot. Does Jason Garrett stack our board? Who is choosing the player?
He had and still has 100% control over the offense. Why anyone would think he wouldn't be involved in personel decisions as the OC is completely irrational. Literally, I cannot believe someone is suggesting that Garrett had no input.
Again, I didn't say he had no input. Read that again and again until it sinks in.
Anybody who thinks an offensive coordinator is the determining factor in picks made with a GM, VP of Personnel, Director of College and Pro scouting and a head coach in the room is laughably uninformed with the power structure of an NFL team.
He's a coordinator.
I suppose Kenyon Coleman and Abe Elam are here because Garrett wanted them here.
He had to want them here. Or they wouldn't be here. He hired his defensive coordinator. He wants some of his old players to follow him.
That would be an outstanding point had Garrett had former players in the drafts were talking about.
Furthermore, I don't know how anyone can look at the roots the Garrett family has in Dallas and think that their voices wouldn't be heard. Do you even realize how many Garrett's are working for this team right now?
That family has a history with this team as a player, scout, assistant coach and now as a head coach and you really want us to believe that these guys' thought process has no bearing on what happened or happens.
Good luck selling that.
This is the third time you've changed my stance to he had no input. See, there's a big void between no input and your highly intelligent stance of the coordinator was making all the offensive picks in our draft.
I'm saying the truth is somewhere in the middle of that void. Of course he wasn't making the picks. He was a coordinator. No NFL war room is run by a coordinator. I feel like I'm talking to a 12 year old here.
They didn't have a choice. It wouldn't have mattered who the coach was, they couldn't go any longer ignoring that area as they had in the past.
Parcells? Please.
Yes, that's right. Parcells. Because when you have an OL in this condition it's because you've failed for years to add quality talent. And that takes us through Wade and to Parcells. If the Jacob Rogers and Stephen Petermans and James Martens and Robert Brewsters had panned out, we wouldn't have this problem today.
Garrett's so far down the totem pole of blame for this that it's not even worth discussing.
