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On offense, the mindset of Garrett and Linehan is doing to Dak what I watched happen to Romo over the years. Dumbing down and limiting of explosive options (especially in the second halves of games). I could only imagine what Dak would be doing with McVay in his corner. Wow.

Speaking of McVay, someone has got to give him credit for the incredible turnaround of taking a losing laughing stock Rams team to a legit problem In just one offseason. His offense is dynamic and the players absolutely LOVE playing in it. That post route to Gurley was genius.

Marinelli is doing the best he can with what he has. I think we have somewhere in the neighborhood of 7 guys out to injury or suspension and 5 rookies playing on defense (Jaylon is technically a rook). Not making excuses because every team in the NFL is dealing with something, but it has to be noted that Marinelli is being called upon to perform magic. I STILL think our defense will be a playoff caliber defense but expecting them to regularly dictate the course of the game is taking it a bit too far. If our offense is actually being dynamic and putting up points, our defense will regularly hold up their end of the bargain. (and those rooks will get better as the season progresses).

I believe there were 19 unanswered by the Rams in the second half. We can go back & forth and argue whether that was offensive or defensive deficiency until the end of time but the bottom line is that our offense doesn't have 5 rooks playing. Our offense can't simply take a quarter off. As loaded as they are supposed to be, 3 and outs should be a rarity with our offense. Yet we had several today against the Rams.

Garrett has never been on the hot seat because he's an awesome puppet. I called 12-4 this season and adjusted that to 11-5 after the Denver game. I adjusted it again to 9-7 after today. We shall see if my that holds true but this type of leadership won't see many deep playoff runs.

The coaching staff woefully underperformed again today. I'm still not 100% sure what Garrett does. But I digress...

Bad day but still looking forwarded to seeing this team really get on track as we get guys back from suspension and injury... Speaking of suspension.. Jerry has created an environment in Dallas that coddles players. Some of these clowns would have already been looking for work elsewhere if it were me.
 

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Switzer should have been benched after all his special teams gaffes. He acts entitled yet he has done zip in the NFL. I'd make him inactive next week and I'm not kidding.
I can't disagree there. That was a major mistake today muffing the punt in traffic when he should have just let it bounce. We have so many rooks playing right now. It's crazy. But I have a feeling it will payoff down the stretch this year.
 

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Will people please stop saying Marinelli is doing the best he can with what he has? We've been saying that for about 5 years now. The talent around him hasn't gotten any better since he got here (otherwise you wouldn't be giving him the same excuse every year). So what makes you think the talent will get any better with him here? He has to be held somewhat responsible for not improving the talent in 5 years. It's not like they don't ask the DC who he wants on his D.
 

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Will people please stop saying Marinelli is doing the best he can with what he has? We've been saying that for about 5 years now. The talent around him hasn't gotten any better since he got here (otherwise you wouldn't be giving him the same excuse every year). So what makes you think the talent will get any better with him here? He has to be held somewhat responsible for not improving the talent in 5 years. It's not like they don't ask the DC who he wants on his D.

Well attempting to replace 75% of your starting secondary in one year (largely with rookies) is not what I would consider a recipe for success.
The again it's always something with this organization.
As soon as we get some success instead of building upon it we press the reset button.
 

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Will people please stop saying Marinelli is doing the best he can with what he has? We've been saying that for about 5 years now. The talent around him hasn't gotten any better since he got here (otherwise you wouldn't be giving him the same excuse every year). So what makes you think the talent will get any better with him here? He has to be held somewhat responsible for not improving the talent in 5 years. It's not like they don't ask the DC who he wants on his D.

Just in case it wasn't clear enough, this statement included Marinelli.

The coaching staff woefully underperformed again today. I'm still not 100% sure what Garrett does. But I digress...

But one can acknowledge that he's not holding up his end of the bargain while also examining the particulars that contribute.
 

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On offense, the mindset of Garrett and Linehan is doing to Dak what I watched happen to Romo over the years. Dumbing down and limiting of explosive options (especially in the second halves of games). I could only imagine what Dak would be doing with McVay in his corner. Wow.

Speaking of McVay, someone has got to give him credit for the incredible turnaround of taking a losing laughing stock Rams team to a legit problem In just one offseason. His offense is dynamic and the players absolutely LOVE playing in it. That post route to Gurley was genius.

Marinelli is doing the best he can with what he has. I think we have somewhere in the neighborhood of 7 guys out to injury or suspension and 5 rookies playing on defense (Jaylon is technically a rook). Not making excuses because every team in the NFL is dealing with something, but it has to be noted that Marinelli is being called upon to perform magic. I STILL think our defense will be a playoff caliber defense but expecting them to regularly dictate the course of the game is taking it a bit too far. If our offense is actually being dynamic and putting up points, our defense will regularly hold up their end of the bargain. (and those rooks will get better as the season progresses).

I believe there were 19 unanswered by the Rams in the second half. We can go back & forth and argue whether that was offensive or defensive deficiency until the end of time but the bottom line is that our offense doesn't have 5 rooks playing. Our offense can't simply take a quarter off. As loaded as they are supposed to be, 3 and outs should be a rarity with our offense. Yet we had several today against the Rams.

Garrett has never been on the hot seat because he's an awesome puppet. I called 12-4 this season and adjusted that to 11-5 after the Denver game. I adjusted it again to 9-7 after today. We shall see if my that holds true but this type of leadership won't see many deep playoff runs.

The coaching staff woefully underperformed again today. I'm still not 100% sure what Garrett does. But I digress...

Bad day but still looking forwarded to seeing this team really get on track as we get guys back from suspension and injury... Speaking of suspension.. Jerry has created an environment in Dallas that coddles players. Some of these clowns would have already been looking for work elsewhere if it were me.

I agree generally with your take.
Sean Lee is a bigger cog in the wheel then I realized and I thought he was big.
Rookie back field is a mess what did we expect.
Garrett does need to bring the hammer
 

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The offense is starting to look the same as under Romo. The short quick passes have turned into medium and long routes, and Dak is having to hold the ball and make too many plays by himself. I haven't seen one slant pass in 4 games. Why are our guys running 20 yard routes when we need 6 (specially with our O-line struggling)? How does Beasley disappear for entire games when he used to dominate slot corners? Where has Witten been the last 2 games? Why can't we just get the first down? For those of you who couldn't stand Romo you're now seeing Romo 2.0. And it wasn't him and it's not Dak - it's the scheme and the play calling. There is only one knock I give Dak - his over-reliance on Dez this season. He needs to see the short field, get the passes out quick to the short routes, and quit waiting for Dez to get open. Dez gets the double coverage every game so just let him do what he does best - run corners and safeties away on the other side of the field.
 

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The defense was doing well until Switzer happened. They had Goff off balance and frustrated. Oh and then the Rams return a kickoff 40+ yards? I say all the time, these coaches will never fail to get pass happy at the most inconvenient times. Why, when the running game is actually working, do you stop running the ball in the 3rd? If Dak is checking out of runs, than its on him. But the coaching staff on the offensive side and special teams shoulder most of this loss IMO.
 

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I blame the defense & Rod "excuses" Marinelli.
They fail to generate turnovers on a consistent basis, they fail in crucial situations in denying 1st down conversions which forces punts by the opposing team, & they are regularly out-coached by opposing offensive coordinators.

The defense continually fails.
It is maddening.
 

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McVay clearly has a great offensive mind, but I’d say an extra year for the number one pick, adding cupp and Watkins along with GETTING RID OF JEFF FISHER play a pretty critical part. He walked into a great situation. Gurley is special
 

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Will people please stop saying Marinelli is doing the best he can with what he has? We've been saying that for about 5 years now. The talent around him hasn't gotten any better since he got here (otherwise you wouldn't be giving him the same excuse every year). So what makes you think the talent will get any better with him here? He has to be held somewhat responsible for not improving the talent in 5 years. It's not like they don't ask the DC who he wants on his D.

Marinelli is a huge fraud. He's an old guy who yells a lot. You know who else was a loud mouth blow hard? Rob Ryan. Both their defenses are pretty much the exact same. No playmakers. Poor tackling. Let them drive the ball with ease. Yet people trashed Ryan. People still defend Marinelli blindly. I think because the media pundits tell us how great of a defensive mind he is. He's not. He never adjusts. His continually sits in these soft zones and allows teams to go up and down the field. Then you have an outlier game like last week against a depleted OL and all of a sudden, "we're back".

Go put on the tape of both Packers playoff games. Those are Marinelli defenses in a nutshell.
 

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Switzer should have been benched after all his special teams gaffes. He acts entitled yet he has done zip in the NFL. I'd make him inactive next week and I'm not kidding.

I get he's trying to make his mark, but bissachia has to get this kid under control. That taking it out of the end zone is killing field position as well.
 

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We've changed the defense multiple times since Garrett has gotten here.. people use to bash our defense when Wade was HC, but even then his defense was getting sacks and actually top five in scoring defense with scribes like Ayodele and James in pass coverage, while having to bail out Garrett's turn-over prone offense increasing year after year, that continually floundered in the red-zone and he couldn't control the clock or reduce pressure with a non-existent run game..

Eventually a defense would blow up and have a disastrous game and Romo would throw like 4 INTs trying to make something out of trash..

Most of the teams winning the SB have defenses with killer mentalities.. where exactly would that come from with this group of clowns?
 

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Tony Dungy and Lovie Smith know defense, and were the true architects of those defensive units -- Marinelli simply benefited from their successes in Tampa and Chicago.
Marinelli then failed in Detroit.

Why did Jerry hire Marinelli?
 

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It's pretty hilarious that the Garrett defenders for years have been blaming the defense for not generating TOs, which is why they lose games, but never had the foresight to blame his offense for turning the ball over for years over thirty times a game during the Wade era as a reason for the losses in their games..

It's comical...
 

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Tony Dungy and Lovie Smith know defense, and were the true architects of those defensive units -- Marinelli simply benefited from their successes in Tampa and Chicago.
Marinelli then failed in Detroit.

Why did Jerry hire Marinelli?

He came with Kiffen.. and all the Garrett homers, before that disastrous season, were raving about the move and how Garrett's ties to 'Kiffen' previously is what brought him here..
 

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The coaching staff woefully underperformed again today. I'm still not 100% sure what Garrett does. But I digress...

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All he does is...:clap::clap::clap:
 

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On offense, the mindset of Garrett and Linehan is doing to Dak what I watched happen to Romo over the years. Dumbing down and limiting of explosive options (especially in the second halves of games). I could only imagine what Dak would be doing with McVay in his corner. Wow.

Speaking of McVay, someone has got to give him credit for the incredible turnaround of taking a losing laughing stock Rams team to a legit problem In just one offseason. His offense is dynamic and the players absolutely LOVE playing in it. That post route to Gurley was genius.

Marinelli is doing the best he can with what he has. I think we have somewhere in the neighborhood of 7 guys out to injury or suspension and 5 rookies playing on defense (Jaylon is technically a rook). Not making excuses because every team in the NFL is dealing with something, but it has to be noted that Marinelli is being called upon to perform magic. I STILL think our defense will be a playoff caliber defense but expecting them to regularly dictate the course of the game is taking it a bit too far. If our offense is actually being dynamic and putting up points, our defense will regularly hold up their end of the bargain. (and those rooks will get better as the season progresses).

I believe there were 19 unanswered by the Rams in the second half. We can go back & forth and argue whether that was offensive or defensive deficiency until the end of time but the bottom line is that our offense doesn't have 5 rooks playing. Our offense can't simply take a quarter off. As loaded as they are supposed to be, 3 and outs should be a rarity with our offense. Yet we had several today against the Rams.

Garrett has never been on the hot seat because he's an awesome puppet. I called 12-4 this season and adjusted that to 11-5 after the Denver game. I adjusted it again to 9-7 after today. We shall see if my that holds true but this type of leadership won't see many deep playoff runs.

The coaching staff woefully underperformed again today. I'm still not 100% sure what Garrett does. But I digress...

Bad day but still looking forwarded to seeing this team really get on track as we get guys back from suspension and injury... Speaking of suspension.. Jerry has created an environment in Dallas that coddles players. Some of these clowns would have already been looking for work elsewhere if it were me.

Not sure I agree with the offense being dumbed down. I noticed that in the pocket, Dak struggles to throw accurately EVEN when he has time. I've seen a bunch of inaccurate throws by him, especially on out routes. Throws are as much as 5-10 yards out of bounds. Receivers don't even try cause they don't have a chance of catching it. He also struggles in when there isn't much of a window, but these are the throws that separate good QBs from the Elite ones.

He's much better when he's rolling outside on a bootleg or if he has to make something for himself.
 
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