Justin Harrell

[DBOY3141]

Why not Justin Harrell -DT - Tennessee?

Ferg is 32 and the only one we have. Don't think Staley can do the job. We need someone to collapse the pocket at NT in Wade's 3-4 scheme. Harrell is rising quickly. DT is probably the weakest position in this draft. We can get a CB/WR/OL/LB in rounds 2/3. Harrell will not make it out of the 1st.

 

[Rack]

He's one of the players I wouldn't mind at 22. Merriweather, Grubbs, Bowe, and Meacham are a few others.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I wouldn't mind Harrell either

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Why not Justin Harrell -DT - Tennessee?

Ferg is 32 and the only one we have. Don't think Staley can do the job. We need someone to collapse the pocket at NT in Wade's 3-4 scheme. Harrell is rising quickly. DT is probably the weakest position in this draft. We can get a CB/WR/OL/LB in rounds 2/3. Harrell will not make it out of the 1st.

Not a bad idea at all, I just wanted the wow player like Peterson (right), Ginn (possible) or Branch (should be gone)......

 

[speedkilz88]

I don't know if he can play NT. Mickey said that the scouts told him that Branch was the only first round prospect they thought would have no trouble playing NT in the nfl. And PFW has Harrell as a DT in the 4-3 and DE in the 3-4.

 

[jobberone]

I don't know if he can play NT. Mickey said that the scouts told him that Branch was the only first round prospect they thought would have no trouble playing NT in the nfl. And PFW has Harrell as a DT in the 4-3 and DE in the 3-4.

He is a DT/DE but if he gets bigger could play NT. That's an if. He's probably been approached about it but I don't know how he feels about that. Seems that would have some impact. He's also recovering from a torn biceps tendon.

 

[speedkilz88]

He is a DT/DE but if he gets bigger could play NT. That's an if. He's probably been approached about it but I don't know how he feels about that. Seems that would have some impact. He's also recovering from a torn biceps tendon.

Its more than size though, can he play two gap and can he keep leverage and not give ground at the point of attack. Some guys just can't fit in that scheme.

 

[Rack]

I don't know if he can play NT. Mickey said that the scouts told him that Branch was the only first round prospect they thought would have no trouble playing NT in the nfl. And PFW has Harrell as a DT in the 4-3 and DE in the 3-4.

He can play NG in a 3-4, although he'd need a year to be ready to handle it (as all rookie NGs usually do).

Plus, one thing you're forgetting, Wade doesn't run a conventional 3-4. He runs more of an attacking 3-4 (with the DL). He'd be perfect as a NG in Wade's scheme.

 

[dbair1967]

cant say I'd be overly thrilled with Harrell at 22...at that point your not only passing on better players, but also taking a guy that is more of a project because he isnt a true NT now

David

 

[The Realist]

3-4 NT's around the league were far more dominant in college than Harrell (Wilfork/SD Kid/Hampton)

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Herrell isn't a real true NT that Dallas needs to plug the middle, he's more of a rush DT.

 

[speedkilz88]

He can play NG in a 3-4, although he'd need a year to be ready to handle it (as all rookie NGs usually do).

Plus, one thing you're forgetting, Wade doesn't run a conventional 3-4. He runs more of an attacking 3-4 (with the DL). He'd be perfect as a NG in Wade's scheme.

From what I've heard Wade's scheme still has the NT responsible for two gaps and the ends are the ones who only have one. I think that would put more pressure on the NT to need to be a rock and not give up the point of attack.

 

[Garret]

Branch is falling down boards fast. Last night espn took him at 32 in one of there mock drafts I dont think he will fall that far becuase if he falls fo 22 we have to take him right?

 

[Silverstar]

Harrell was up to 314lbs at his last workout and he lifted 31 times. So, I don't think his bicep is a problem for him anymore. At 6042, Harrell can easily add another 20lbs and still be effective IMO.

According to DC.com Ferguson is only 6-3 310lbs.

 

[hendog]

On film he looks huge.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Marcus Spears could get to be 320, that doesn't mean he's a noseguard (according to him he's not even a 3-4 DE).

Harrell is a 1 gap penetrator type who's best suited for a 4-3. Out muscling two blockers at a time just isn't his game.

 

[rw54]

I like Harrell quite a bit, but I think he would be more of an end in the 3-4. He is a pretty powerful guy, I think he could play a two gap. He could definitely play in Phillips 3-4 scheme. I think I seen almost all his games (Big UTfan). If we go best available I think both UT guys deserve consideration.

 

[Silverstar]

Marcus Spears could get to be 320, that doesn't mean he's a noseguard (according to him he's not even a 3-4 DE).

Harrell is a 1 gap penetrator type who's best suited for a 4-3. Out muscling two blockers at a time just isn't his game.

Spears is a DE and not a DT and at 320lbs would be an even less effective player (if that's possible), than he already is and benched indefinitely. You're trying to make a point by comparing two different positions, like they were just interchangeable based on weight and that makes no sense.

For example...

A heavier Terrell Owens becoming a tight end or heavier Tiki Barber becoming a full back or heavier Roy Williams becoming a LB.

It's just a bad analogy.

The rest of your post doesn't hold water either, because no one knows if Harrell could play noseguard effectively or not. What scouts do know is, that Harrell is a DT and not a DE, that Harrell was very effective against the run and pass, that he currently weighs 314lbs and that he can lift 31 times.

 

[TNCowboy]

Justin Harrell just isn't a NT. It's not just size. Look at his body type. He's a natural 4-3 tackle, or maybe you could project him to 3-4 end.

IMO, it makes no sense to try to completely change the type of player Harrell is - taking away what he does best - to justify taking him at #22.

 

[InmanRoshi]

The rest of your post doesn't hold water either, because no one knows if Harrell could play noseguard effectively or not. What scouts do know is, that Harrell is a DT and not a DE, that Harrell was very effective against the run and pass, that he currently weighs 314lbs and that he can lift 31 times.

Have you ever watched him play or are you just reading internet draft bios? He's a 4-3 three tech who's specialty is using quickness to get into gaps.