KC Joyner: I Don't See A Giants Upset

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As we've talked about before, the football analytical world had a ways to go to catch up to the analytical baseball world a few years ago. Between the stuff we've done and the work of many others like Albert Breer and Michael David Smith, we're closing this gap in a hurry.

Now, to the arguing: I'm sure there's a lot that we'll agree on in this discussion, but I don't see how the Giants are going to upset the Cowboys. Even with a banged-up Tony Romo, the Cowboys still look like a team that can win a high-scoring shootout. I don't think the Giants can do the same.

The problem is New York's pitiful receiving corps. When I'm evaluating teams and players, I rely a lot on a statistic called Yards Per Attempt. I've found that YPA—total yards gained divided by total pass attempts—offers the best accounting of the efficiency and explosiveness of receivers and quarterbacks. For wide receivers, an excellent season-ending YPA is 10, and a poor one is around six. I know it's a small sample size, but in the two games since Jeremy Shockey left the Giants lineup with a broken leg, Steve Smith and Plaxico Burress have been abysmal. In the last two games of the year, Smith averaged only 5.8 YPA, and Burress averaged only 5.3. They both kept up that anemic pace in the wild-card game against Tampa Bay, with only 61 yards between them on 11 pass attempts.

For a receiver, a low YPA can be a symptom of poor play or of playing with a bad quarterback. In the Giants' case, the team's receivers typically have low YPAs because of Eli Manning's inaccuracy. The YPAs for Burress and Smith, though, are lower than their teammates' numbers, and based on what I've seen on tape it, is more their fault than Eli's. Smith simply doesn't get open. And besides the second game against the Eagles, Burress has disappeared since Week 6, perhaps due to a lingering leg injury. It is very hard for an offense to get moving if its receivers are putting up low YPA numbers. While Amani Toomer and backup tight end Kevin Boss are both producing at a much better rate, the Giants can't beat Dallas with those two alone. They'll need Smith or Burress to step up, and I don't see that happening.
 
Makes sense that Burress's production has dropped off. Without Shockey as a threat in the mid to short game, defenses load up on the deep stuff. And you see Toomer and Boss taking advantage of that. But those two guys won't beat us. Like I've said all week, Burress is the only Giant receiver that can beat us.
 
peplaw06;1890366 said:
Makes sense that Burress's production has dropped off. Without Shockey as a threat in the mid to short game, defenses load up on the deep stuff. And you see Toomer and Boss taking advantage of that. But those two guys won't beat us. Like I've said all week, Burress is the only Giant receiver that can beat us.

While the Jints WR corp is short in some places..

unfortunately, the strongest part of the Jints is running the ball and they have been dominating games they have won with it.

And more unfortunately, their running game doesn't matchup with our strength..defending the run.

So it's a game of matchups.

I just don't look at stats when it comes to the playoffs.

It's all about matchups of strengths and weaknesses.

Where we may have an edge is in the pass rush DL.

Against TB, their defense, for whatever reason, didn't put any pressure on Eli.

Eli will beat you if you don't make him go down or rush his throws.

And he also seems to play well against Cover 2 defenses..which we don't play alot of...more man-to-man.

So saying the Jints don't statiscally matchup well at WR and that's why they will not win makes no sense.

We'll see.

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by vegas we favored but by media we under dogs like last time and we won 31-20
 
Our very own Albert Breer gets a nice mention from Joyner.

And you know what, I appreciate it. To my recollection, Breer is about the only guy in the metro area who wants to talk about football and not Jessica.
 
RomoIsBack;1890596 said:
by vegas we favored but by media we under dogs like last time and we won 31-20
Simply means the Gint backers won't put their money where there mouth is.
The purpose of a line is to attract equal betting on both teams. Since the Gint backers have to get 7.5 to bet even though they are saying the GInts will win, says something about the the depth of their belief.
 
vicjagger;1890594 said:
Because Dallas is favored by 7.5.

point spreads at this juncture is more about how people are betting and vegas changing it to make money, not predict the game.
 
vicjagger;1890594 said:
Because Dallas is favored by 7.5.

and the 1st seed
and the division winners
and playing at home
and finished 13-3
and beat them twice this season

(takes breath)

and have the better team
and...........
 
Every person who has done anything but talk about gut feelings, womanly intuition(even though they are grown men) or how Romo was in Mexico for two days has picked Dallas.

Matchups-wise this is a dream game for Dallas.

The Giants hurt teams by running the ball and by pressuring the passer. We have an OL with 3 Pro Bowlers, 2 very good blocking TE's and enough explosion on offense to overcome long down and distance situations.

Plaxico isn't as healthy as T.O. yet everyone is worried about T.O.
 
iceberg;1890854 said:
point spreads at this juncture is more about how people are betting and vegas changing it to make money, not predict the game.
Yeah but IIRC, the line hasn't changed since it opened. If 60% of the country was convinced that the game would be closer than that, or that the Giants would win, the money would be skewed towards them and the line would be dropping to make it come out closer to 50/50.
 
peplaw06;1890928 said:
Yeah but IIRC, the line hasn't changed since it opened. If 60% of the country was convinced that the game would be closer than that, or that the Giants would win, the money would be skewed towards them and the line would be dropping to make it come out closer to 50/50.

heh, i said as much as i know. : ) i've seen vegas in pictures and almost went there for a team event last year, but we went indoor golfing instead. go figure.
 

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