Keeping McGee was the right thing to do.

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Let the bashing begin, but keep it rational. I'll make my point first:

1. McGee is practicing today as the scout team QB. That is the third team QBs job. Orton can't do it because as the backup, he has to prepare as if he were starting. Orton has to be in the middle of offensive preparation, not using his time helping the defense prepare. They can't use a practice squad QB to run the scout team because until tomorrow, they won't have a practice squad.

2. McGee can run. As I have posted in other threads, he can simulate RGIII and Vick in practice, and if that simulation helps the defense enough to help on one play per game against the Giants and Eagles, McGee will have contributed more than the 4th or 5th rb would have.

3. McGee knows the offense. Wade Wilson can concentrate on the finer points of QB coaching and in-game adjustments instead of spending countless hours trying to get a new guy up to speed.

4. McGee takes care of the football. I think he is too cautious with it when he plays. He refuses to take chances. He seems to be thinking that they can't intercept it if he just runs for a first down instead of throwing it. (and whatever else his flaws may be, he does throw well on the run.) Because of the fact that he seldom takes chances, if he does ever have to play a real game, he probably won't be able to carry the team, but he also won't loose the game. Although, in that Cardinals game, when the 4th quarter pressure was on and he had to make plays, he did take chances that paid off well. (the defense lost that game, not McGee)

5. If McGee had been cut and the Giants (who have a bad backup in Carr) had signed him, the information they could have pulled from him could have made the difference in winning or losing next Wednesday.

6. The 46th spot on game day rosters is a third QB spot. In the unfortunate event that Romo and Orton are both hurt, at least you still have a QB who has taken snaps in a real game instead of having to use a RB or WR, and if that makes a difference in one game, the roster spot is worth it.

Now the disclaimer:
I'm not saying that McGee has a bright future here, but because of his college offense, it was as if he went from High School to the NFL. This is his fourth year and he should be better by now. He holds the ball too long because he is indicisive. (Back to being afraid to take chances and maybe turn the ball over). I'm not even saying that McGee will be here next week, but yesterday, today, and on any day leading up to Wednesday night, I will think keeping him was a wise decision.

Blast away, I can take it.
 
Keeping McGee was okay, but keeping Holmes was not if it means losing Coale.

:)
 
Angus;4698534 said:
Keeping McGee was okay, but keeping Holmes was not if it means losing Coale.

:)


Agree. The only thing though Holmes I beleive can play ST's, as where Coale did not.
I still preferred they kept Coale though. I hope Holmes proves me wrong.
 
Keeping McGee to simulate Vick and RG III is an awful idea.

You find a QB you can develop and has a future. McGee had 3 full years and I honestly found very little improvement. He is wasting a spot.

You want to simulate RG III or Vick....I think Dez played that role last year.

I rather put Carpenter on the practice squad and run the scout team.
 
Yeah, I think carpenter showed he could run, and Dez played that role laste year.
 
There's no good reason for wasting a roster spot on a QB who can't play.

We'd manage to run a practice without Steven McGee. That's what your practice squad is for.
 
I don't expect him to stay on the roster for very long.
 
You could sign another QB to your practice squad to run the scout team. The point of his roster spot is to try and develop another Tony Romo, no point in wasting that spot on a JAG.
 
CooterBrown;4698528 said:
Let the bashing begin, but keep it rational. I'll make my point first:

Most of your points aren't unreasonable, but I think they're oversold.

1. McGee is practicing today as the scout team QB. That is the third team QBs job. Orton can't do it because as the backup, he has to prepare as if he were starting. Orton has to be in the middle of offensive preparation, not using his time helping the defense prepare. They can't use a practice squad QB to run the scout team because until tomorrow, they won't have a practice squad.

I don't understand the point you're making. Why can't we use a practice squad QB like we always do? The only difference between McGee or Carpenter on the team and on the practice squad is one day (Friday) where they can't participate. This doesn't seem like an argument in favor of rostering McGee.

2. McGee can run. As I have posted in other threads, he can simulate RGIII and Vick in practice, and if that simulation helps the defense enough to help on one play per game against the Giants and Eagles, McGee will have contributed more than the 4th or 5th rb would have.

And probably less than a special teams and ILB contributor like Lemon. And again, why do we need a roster spot for this? A practice squad contributor can do this.

3. McGee knows the offense. Wade Wilson can concentrate on the finer points of QB coaching and in-game adjustments instead of spending countless hours trying to get a new guy up to speed.

Straw man. Almost everyone opposed to McGee on the roster isn't arguing for someone else at QB that would have to be trained up. They're arguing for Coale, Hamilton or Lemon.

4. McGee takes care of the football. I think he is too cautious with it when he plays. He refuses to take chances. He seems to be thinking that they can't intercept it if he just runs for a first down instead of throwing it. (and whatever else his flaws may be, he does throw well on the run.) Because of the fact that he seldom takes chances, if he does ever have to play a real game, he probably won't be able to carry the team, but he also won't loose the game. Although, in that Cardinals game, when the 4th quarter pressure was on and he had to make plays, he did take chances that paid off well. (the defense lost that game, not McGee)

Having a "bus driver" 3rd quarterback doesn't make any sense. The above is reasonable and true, for the most part, but we have two other quarterbacks who we trust to take care of the football and take 95%+ of the snaps. What does having a QB who doesn't take risks and takes care of the football, despite having no starter potential, do for us?

5. If McGee had been cut and the Giants (who have a bad backup in Carr) had signed him, the information they could have pulled from him could have made the difference in winning or losing next Wednesday.

This is always oversold, but we also have to realize that the Giants could just as easily sign Rudy for the week, if the information were so valuable. This isn't a reason to keep McGee.

6. The 46th spot on game day rosters is a third QB spot. In the unfortunate event that Romo and Orton are both hurt, at least you still have a QB who has taken snaps in a real game instead of having to use a RB or WR, and if that makes a difference in one game, the roster spot is worth it.

This is an argument for a 3rd quarterback, and yes, it is a comparatively efficient roster spot. This isn't an argument for McGee, though - just for having a 3rd quarterback. This is rather like saying we like the "idea" of a third quarterback more than the one we actually have. "Yeah, he's terrible, but his roster spot is REALLY efficient!"

Now the disclaimer:
I'm not saying that McGee has a bright future here, but because of his college offense, it was as if he went from High School to the NFL. This is his fourth year and he should be better by now. He holds the ball too long because he is indicisive. (Back to being afraid to take chances and maybe turn the ball over). I'm not even saying that McGee will be here next week, but yesterday, today, and on any day leading up to Wednesday night, I will think keeping him was a wise decision.

Blast away, I can take it.

I know you were mostly playing devil's advocate here, which I appreciate, but in total I think the consensus is right here. This doesn't make sense as a long-term move.
 
Several posters seem to be missing point #1. We have a game in 4 days. There can't be any Practice Squad QB until at least tomorrow. They may cut him next week, but they need McGee to prepare for this game.
 
I see a few things in McGee, but do we ever see him as a starter? I'll be the first to admit that I never thought that Romo would amount to anything when he was 3rd string... But in my opinion, Dunbar or Bass would have been a better keep.

Keeping a 3rd developmental QB when the time to win is NOW, is a waste of a roster spot IMO.

Just my 2 cents...
 
Shows what I know. Looks like they cut McGee to sign a TE and have at least started setting the Practice Squad.
 
I admire the fact the OP was willing to stick his neck out and made some good points. Truth is, McGee could still end up on the Cowboys roster after the dust settles.
 
Looks like you are in a shrinking silent minority.;)
 
Kilyin;4698791 said:
I admire the fact the OP was willing to stick his neck out and made some good points. Truth is, McGee could still end up on the Cowboys roster after the dust settles.
I agree... kudos to the OP for that.

Appreciate the considered opinion/info given, as a counterpoint basis for additional discussion.
 

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