Keith Brooking stands up to Steve Dennis

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Wonderboyromo;3131288 said:
Weird thing about that video. Brooking is firing up the team, and Roy and Bennett are just standing there in the background. Roy has his head down. Not the least bit fired up. Choice, Jenkins, Hurd, and Spears are visibly pumped. Our #1 WR has his head down and is just standing there, seemingly uninterested.
Players get pumped up in different ways. I was fired up by this kind of stuff. I know a guy who went into almost a trance. It was like he was standing there and nowhere to be seen. He was deep into meditation. I know another guy who had to throw up. Every game. Until he could do that, he could not get ready. If he didn't throw up he was going to have a horrible game.

He had 2 TDs in that game. Just because he doesn't act to a blueprint doesn't mean he isn't into it, or part of this team.
 

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jterrell;3131278 said:
It compares because this team hasn't won a playoff game in how long yet the drought seems to have done zero to put success into perspective.

Once expectations are reasonable they'll be achievable.

Until then good luck and happy misery!

So it's not reasonable to expect at least one playoff win in 13 years?
 

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LOL at all the French analogies! Speaking of which, Brooking is the teams' new Captain America.

And as well as he has been playing, it his fire, his leadership, his intangibles that give the Cowboys a chance to take it to another level.
 

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Hostile;3131298 said:
Players get pumped up in different ways. I was fired up by this kind of stuff. I know a guy who went into almost a trance. It was like he was standing there and nowhere to be seen. He was deep into meditation. I know another guy who had to throw up. Every game. Until he could do that, he could not get ready. If he didn't throw up he was going to have a horrible game.

He had 2 TDs in that game. Just because he doesn't act to a blueprint doesn't mean he isn't into it, or part of this team.

I question his desire, and that doesn't help.
You're right though, some people on my wrestling were so mild mannered. Everyone would be screaming and jumping around and they would just stand there, but they pretty much always went out and won. And even if they won a big match they wouldn't react as much as I or others would.
 

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Alexander;3130844 said:
What Phillips is experiencing now is not that much different than how he had to defend himself in Denver and Buffalo. That has not changed and won't change until his teams start winning in the last quarter of the season and closing strong.

The Dallas media has taken a while to get predatory, but if he thinks this is bad, there is no way he could ever handle the New York media.

The problem he's created by being soft and cuddly for so long is that when things turn ugly, all he can do is throw out statistics and talk about his record, which doesn't satisfy the problem. Dallas isn't Cincinnati where simply getting to the playoffs is cause for celebration. Our bar is much higher.

I love posts like these would be awesome in an alternate Universe.

The problem is you toss out statements as facts that are untrue.

In Denver the issue was Elway. He didn't want a defensive minded coach in there at all. Wade was Dan Reeves hand-picked successor but former QB coach Shanny was Elway's. Elway had his best seasons to date under Wade but Shanny was always going to get that job eventually with Elway pushing for him. Elway was the offensive player of the year in 1993 under Wade but he gave the credit (and probably rightfully so, to Shanny).

In Buffalo Wade had to answer questions about his abysmal special teams coach after a ridiculous last second playoff loss. He wouldn't fire the guy so was canned. But it's worth noting they'd be pretty dang excited to have Wade and his 10 win regular season but no playoff wins right now (or the previous 5 years) in Buffalo.

Should Pittsburgh fire Tomlin? They are a mere 6-6 and just lost to Oakland.

I hear about how great Jeff Fisher is and tend to agree but that team was flat awful earlier this year. They played the worst game by any team in 10 years when they got blown out by the Pats. And how many Super Bowl trophies does Fisher have in all those years?

Bottom line is it has to be apples to apples.

Last year this team underachieved based on talent but it had a volatile mix of personalities that was pushed over the top with injuries and media drama.
That's one year.

8-4 is not underachievement based on the team's talent level.

Wade lost to NY twice but beat Philly on the road and handled ATL when they were considered a very real test.

This team wasn't picked to win a Super Bowl and talking about them now like they should is both disingenuous and logically flawed.

Wade having to deal with those expectations is unique to Dallas.

Talking up the New York Media like sits tough is a common mistake. Are they far tougher than DFW on baseball, basketball, hockey? Heck yes. But football? Not even close. If they were the Jets offices would be burned down by now.
 

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Bach;3131306 said:
So it's not reasonable to expect at least one playoff win in 13 years?

It absolutely is.

THIS year that should be the goal. 1 playoff win.
If Dallas doesn't get that then Wade gets fired and we re-load for year 14.

But you don't go 10 years without a playoff win, hire a coach and tell him win a super bowl or we behead you publicly.

What does Wade have to do with the previous 10 years of failing to win a playoff game?
 

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Bach;3131306 said:
So it's not reasonable to expect at least one playoff win in 13 years?
Not in hindsight. In foresight, yes sir, absolutely.
 

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Wonderboyromo;3131309 said:
I question his desire, and that doesn't help.
You're right though, some people on my wrestling were so mild mannered. Everyone would be screaming and jumping around and they would just stand there, but they pretty much always went out and won. And even if they won a big match they wouldn't react as much as I or others would.
Then why question his desire if you saw it yourself? I don't remember Roger Staubach ever yelling and screaming to the entire team. Would that mean he had no desire to win?
 

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Just listened to it and I agree with Dennis and his stance. However, at the same time man do I love what I'm hearing from Brooking this is the type of guy you love to have on a football team.
 

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jterrell;3131330 said:
It absolutely is.

THIS year that should be the goal. 1 playoff win.
If Dallas doesn't get that then Wade gets fired and we re-load for year 14.

But you don't go 10 years without a playoff win, hire a coach and tell him win a super bowl or we behead you publicly.

What does Wade have to do with the previous 10 years of failing to win a playoff game?

What has Wade ever had to do with winning a playoff game as HC?

The truth is, he's always been a quality DC and that's about it. Heck, he was handed the reins of a team on the rise with a young decent QB starting his first full season and started out 12-1, only to go 1-2 to end the year and then exit the playoffs one and done. Last year, the team collapsed at the end and missed the playoffs with an embarrassing crushing defeat in Philly.

The man has never gotten it done in the past, then on top of it basically has his hands tied in Dallas. He has no real control over the offense or OC. Garrett pretty much reports directly to Jerry and controls that side of the ball. Really a great combination to have: a coach who never can close the deal and then practically neutered by an ego-driven owner/GM.

Now given enough time and chances, Wade may be able to coach a team deep into the playoffs. I mean, even someone as horrible as Bill Bidwell managed to have a team make it to the Super Bowl last year. But do we really want to settle for having to wait for the law of averages to finally catch up to us?
 

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fan62;3130189 said:
Wow, I guess Steve Dennis hosts the Keith Brooking's Show. Brooking stood up for Wade Phillips like you wouldn't believe. Really putting down Steve Dennis.

Just saw part on it on CBS 11 news - Hope someone can find a link to this, or maybe some of our Video guys can get it. I want to see more of it.
Brookings is to Wade as Keyshawn was to Parcells.

Plus, in general, most defensive guys--even ex-Cowboys--out there like Wade (even as a HC). I'm not so sure that's true about the offense...have no idea really.
 

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Bach;3131642 said:
What has Wade ever had to do with winning a playoff game as HC?

The truth is, he's always been a quality DC and that's about it. Heck, he was handed the reins of a team on the rise with a young decent QB starting his first full season and started out 12-1, only to go 1-2 to end the year and then exit the playoffs one and done. Last year, the team collapsed at the end and missed the playoffs with an embarrassing crushing defeat in Philly.

The man has never gotten it done in the past, then on top of it basically has his hands tied in Dallas. He has no real control over the offense or OC. Garrett pretty much reports directly to Jerry and controls that side of the ball. Really a great combination to have: a coach who never can close the deal and then practically neutered by an ego-driven owner/GM.

Now given enough time and chances, Wade may be able to coach a team deep into the playoffs. I mean, even someone as horrible as Bill Bidwell managed to have a team make it to the Super Bowl last year. But do we really want to settle for having to wait for the law of averages to finally catch up to us?
Okay, I'll give you "young decent quarterback", the 12-1 start, the quick playoff exit and last December's woes. Seriously. No argument, but I have to ask one question.

Was it really necessary to nitpick by including the 1-2 finish? I mean seriously. 15-1 would have been outstanding, but what would it have mattered if the season's final results had been the same? (Sorry, two questions :eek:: )
 

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Alexander;3131028 said:
I can't say I disagree.

I even find myself thinking how satisfied I'd be with even a single playoff win. Sad, really.

Just to have a chance to watch my team play in the playoffs would bring some satisfaction. Sucks to see other teams playing in the postseason.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3130901 said:
Boy, did this thread get crapped up in a hurry.

Keith Brooking, who unlike any of us is actually inside the locker room, said Wade does address December and accountability every day with the team. And yet we still have people arguing that the way he handles press conferences is exactly the way he handles the team behind closed doors.

That is the very definition of ignoring evidence so you can speculate that things are the way you think and hope they are, which in this case is that Wade just rolls the footballs out on the field and says All is Well. Keith sat there and told you otherwise and you still refuse to believe it!

Says a lot about certain posters in this thread.

Right on.

I guess that gets to the point of what bothers me about Wade-detractors. It seems every actual player, when asked, says he absolutely does focus on details and accountability. He just is not real comfortable around the press or else (gasp!) he does not trust them.

You'd think no one had ever seen a Belichik press conference. So often he gives those guys nothing and can even be condescending when asked dipsheet questions. Belichik is almost comical in how dumbed-down he comes across to the press when we know the guy is brilliant.
 
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