Kellen Moore tenets

[Birch_Wood]

Here's my disclaimer: I was not a Moore fan initially. I thought he should be working in the concession stand. But I like what he has done so far.
6 out of the first 8 weeks (1 being a bye) Cowboys play calling was on the money. Moore's play calling seemed to be an advantage in my humble opinion. Recall how long this team suffered plain, vanilla play calling pre-Moore. Other defensive teams were calling our plays on the field seconds before they happened. This is the opposite of Moore play-calling.

What Moore brings to the table are multiple different (and sometimes unique) looks to the offense.

• multiple looks with plenty of options for the QB
• unique formation looks i.e. lineman as a fullback
• player mismatches

Along with the many offensive revisions, is the challenge to keep up with the alterations of the offense. Moore uses multiple different formations to make the defense pick their poison. What will the defense choose to address this play? Slide a linebacker over, slide a safety to one side? Within this formation there are multiple options for the QB. But both QB, blockers, and receivers still have to execute for it to be successful.

I don't think right now there is one label or system that defenders can use to identify the Cowboys offense. They really don't know what type of offense Moore will bring next. For some reason as of late this has not been working like it did for the first 6 out of 7 games. Lots of possibilities why. Players are currently executing less. Is this because of play-calling?

The downside of change, (if there is one) the offense is always learning new and different plays. One of the reasons we are seeing a few on offense collect more than their fair share of penalties. Of course, the QB gets the blunt of this information overload as the leader of the team.

Consistency and execution seem to be an underlying factor. I realize this sounds like generic reasoning. But consistency and execution can be vastly underrated by players. It can only be developed by intense practice and creating an environment where practice is more difficult than the game. Repetition.

Within Moore's play calling, a player has to be willing to perform any role deemed necessary. CeeDee may run the ball. A lineman may line up as a fullback or a receiver. I believe Moore is creating the mismatches, but the players are not executing as well. But I also know I could be wrong. I missed the Denver and the Washington game because of travel. Just my drive by 2 cents worth.

What are your thoughts?

 

[Ranching]

Here's my disclaimer: I was not a Moore fan initially. I thought he should be working in the concession stand. But I like what he has done so far.
6 out of the first 8 weeks (1 being a bye) Cowboys play calling was on the money. Moore's play calling seemed to be an advantage in my humble opinion. Recall how long this team suffered plain, vanilla play calling pre-Moore. Other defensive teams were calling our plays on the field seconds before they happened. This is the opposite of Moore play-calling.

What Moore brings to the table are multiple different (and sometimes unique) looks to the offense.

• multiple looks with plenty of options for the QB
• unique formation looks i.e. lineman as a fullback
• player mismatches

Along with the many offensive revisions, is the challenge to keep up with the alterations of the offense. Moore uses multiple different formations to make the defense pick their poison. What will the defense choose to address this play? Slide a linebacker over, slide a safety to one side? Within this formation there are multiple options for the QB. But both QB, blockers, and receivers still have to execute for it to be successful.

I don't think right now there is one label or system that defenders can use to identify the Cowboys offense. They really don't know what type of offense Moore will bring next. For some reason as of late this has not been working like it did for the first 6 out of 7 games. Lots of possibilities why. Players are currently executing less. Is this because of play-calling?

The downside of change, (if there is one) the offense is always learning new and different plays. One of the reasons we are seeing a few on offense collect more than their fair share of penalties. Of course, the QB gets the blunt of this information overload as the leader of the team.

Consistency and execution seem to be an underlying factor. I realize this sounds like generic reasoning. But consistency and execution can be vastly underrated by players. It can only be developed by intense practice and creating an environment where practice is more difficult than the game. Repetition.

Within Moore's play calling, a player has to be willing to perform any role deemed necessary. CeeDee may run the ball. A lineman may line up as a fullback or a receiver. I believe Moore is creating the mismatches, but the players are not executing as well. But I also know I could be wrong. I missed the Denver and the Washington game because of travel. Just my drive by 2 cents worth.

What are your thoughts?

Consistency is huge in offensive football....I think that we lost that when injuries and covid hit.....players and coaches missing makes a difference...Dak is rattled, that's easy to see....even for a homer like me, but I feel these 10 days will be like the fountain of youth.....hope I'm right....

 

[pancakeman]

The "always a new wrinkle" offense strategy means you'll often leave a defense confused, but the risk is leaving the offense confused too! I wonder if "smarts" is becoming an increasingly valuable skill in football.
Whenever you have QBs and receivers on different pages, is that a sign that the game plan is too complex for the players? If so, is the solution a simpler game plan, or smarter players? Of course in the short term, you can dumb-down the game plan more easily than smartening up the players.

 

[CouchCoach]

Avery OC is a slave to the talent he has available. I think Moore is good but he could become very good with a little more experience.

I also think he has a QB he can't call runs for and is not creative when the plays break down.

I think there should be different evaluations for OC's and DC's about if the called play was executed properly and on the other side of that, was the play made out of player creativity.

We used to discuss Romo's plays and there was always this mystery about how many were actually executed as called and how many were created on the fly.

And you can put a clock on it. Quick execution, executed play.

 

[CouchCoach]

The "always a new wrinkle" offense strategy means you'll often leave a defense confused, but the risk is leaving the offense confused too! I wonder if "smarts" is becoming an increasingly valuable skill in football.
Whenever you have QBs and receivers on different pages, is that a sign that the game plan is too complex for the players? If so, is the solution a simpler game plan, or smarter players? Of course in the short term, you can dumb-down the game plan more easily than smartening up the players.

I wonder his many plays Moore has that are "go to the Buick and turn around".

"It looked good on paper" is the NFL mantra for coordinators.

 

[nightrain]

He has shown no counter punch. His offense has been stonewalled and he has no answer. Last Sunday we starting seeing ridiculous gadget plays come out of the playbook. I am surprised that when they practiced those dumb-azz gadget plays, the QB or someone didn't say; Hell No!

 

[Einstein]

I think Moore has gone a little vanilla myself, but hoping he is just saving some for the playoffs... I also think before Dak was willing to take what the defense gave us, and for some reason since he's come back from the calf injury he wants to beat them fast and is forcing things. A lot factors into this, OL, running game, receiver drops (happened a lot when he first came back), injuries...

 

[BAT]

There was not one tenet divulged in this post.

 

[OmerV]

I wonder his many plays Moore has that are "go to the Buick and turn around".

"It looked good on paper" is the NFL mantra for coordinators.

Yeah, well he told me to streak down the sideline and I didn't see the damn Buick and I've been limping ever since.

 

[Birch_Wood]

I wonder his many plays Moore has that are "go to the Buick and turn around".

"It looked good on paper" is the NFL mantra for coordinators.

I am of the opinion he used those plays because of necessity. He is attempting to jump start the offense. But it is not what is lurking in his playbook. What he would prefer to unleash.

 

[Birch_Wood]

I think Moore has gone a little vanilla myself, but hoping he is just saving some for the playoffs... I also think before Dak was willing to take what the defense gave us, and for some reason since he's come back from the calf injury he wants to beat them fast and is forcing things. A lot factors into this, OL, running game, receiver drops (happened a lot when he first came back), injuries...

If Moore has gone Vanilla its not what he would prefer. I don't think its because he forgot how to draw up plays. The team is lacking consistency and execution.

 

[Birch_Wood]

He has shown no counter punch. His offense has been stonewalled and he has no answer. Last Sunday we starting seeing ridiculous gadget plays come out of the playbook. I am surprised that when they practiced those dumb-azz gadget plays, the QB or someone didn't say; Hell No!

But as couchcoach said, "Every OC is a slave to the talent he has available". I don't think if for lack of trying. I think Moore's style/philosophy is aggressive and to put the defense on their heels. But if missed passes, dropped balls, lack of run, missed blocks is a factor then its time to punt.

 

[DogFace]

Not having Jarwin or Mceon has hurt our 12 personal package which was doing very well. I wonder how much this has affected the running game.

 

[Cmac]

Here's my disclaimer: I was not a Moore fan initially. I thought he should be working in the concession stand. But I like what he has done so far.
6 out of the first 8 weeks (1 being a bye) Cowboys play calling was on the money. Moore's play calling seemed to be an advantage in my humble opinion. Recall how long this team suffered plain, vanilla play calling pre-Moore. Other defensive teams were calling our plays on the field seconds before they happened. This is the opposite of Moore play-calling.

What Moore brings to the table are multiple different (and sometimes unique) looks to the offense.

• multiple looks with plenty of options for the QB
• unique formation looks i.e. lineman as a fullback
• player mismatches

Along with the many offensive revisions, is the challenge to keep up with the alterations of the offense. Moore uses multiple different formations to make the defense pick their poison. What will the defense choose to address this play? Slide a linebacker over, slide a safety to one side? Within this formation there are multiple options for the QB. But both QB, blockers, and receivers still have to execute for it to be successful.

I don't think right now there is one label or system that defenders can use to identify the Cowboys offense. They really don't know what type of offense Moore will bring next. For some reason as of late this has not been working like it did for the first 6 out of 7 games. Lots of possibilities why. Players are currently executing less. Is this because of play-calling?

The downside of change, (if there is one) the offense is always learning new and different plays. One of the reasons we are seeing a few on offense collect more than their fair share of penalties. Of course, the QB gets the blunt of this information overload as the leader of the team.

Consistency and execution seem to be an underlying factor. I realize this sounds like generic reasoning. But consistency and execution can be vastly underrated by players. It can only be developed by intense practice and creating an environment where practice is more difficult than the game. Repetition.

Within Moore's play calling, a player has to be willing to perform any role deemed necessary. CeeDee may run the ball. A lineman may line up as a fullback or a receiver. I believe Moore is creating the mismatches, but the players are not executing as well. But I also know I could be wrong. I missed the Denver and the Washington game because of travel. Just my drive by 2 cents worth.

What are your thoughts?

Since you asked.......I think the Kool-Aid has been tasted, regarding his prowess as an OC or "Guru" on this board. I'd ask, what is the reason for the recurring red-zone failures. It seems like we're snapping the ball for FG opportunities, too much to my liking. Anyway, respect your post, but I did have the eyebrows raised. All good.

 

[JoeKing]

Kellen Moore's game plan works only when it is executed properly. What we have lately is a lack of execution, but for some reason, fans want to blame that on Kellen Moore.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Here's my disclaimer: I was not a Moore fan initially. I thought he should be working in the concession stand. But I like what he has done so far.
6 out of the first 8 weeks (1 being a bye) Cowboys play calling was on the money. Moore's play calling seemed to be an advantage in my humble opinion. Recall how long this team suffered plain, vanilla play calling pre-Moore. Other defensive teams were calling our plays on the field seconds before they happened. This is the opposite of Moore play-calling.

What Moore brings to the table are multiple different (and sometimes unique) looks to the offense.

• multiple looks with plenty of options for the QB
• unique formation looks i.e. lineman as a fullback
• player mismatches

Along with the many offensive revisions, is the challenge to keep up with the alterations of the offense. Moore uses multiple different formations to make the defense pick their poison. What will the defense choose to address this play? Slide a linebacker over, slide a safety to one side? Within this formation there are multiple options for the QB. But both QB, blockers, and receivers still have to execute for it to be successful.

I don't think right now there is one label or system that defenders can use to identify the Cowboys offense. They really don't know what type of offense Moore will bring next. For some reason as of late this has not been working like it did for the first 6 out of 7 games. Lots of possibilities why. Players are currently executing less. Is this because of play-calling?

The downside of change, (if there is one) the offense is always learning new and different plays. One of the reasons we are seeing a few on offense collect more than their fair share of penalties. Of course, the QB gets the blunt of this information overload as the leader of the team.

Consistency and execution seem to be an underlying factor. I realize this sounds like generic reasoning. But consistency and execution can be vastly underrated by players. It can only be developed by intense practice and creating an environment where practice is more difficult than the game. Repetition.

Within Moore's play calling, a player has to be willing to perform any role deemed necessary. CeeDee may run the ball. A lineman may line up as a fullback or a receiver. I believe Moore is creating the mismatches, but the players are not executing as well. But I also know I could be wrong. I missed the Denver and the Washington game because of travel. Just my drive by 2 cents worth.

What are your thoughts?

Moore is the real deal. Injuries and lack of continuity with the Oline and receivers has caused execution problems everywhere and the offense is slumping.

No fault of Moore other than the fact that he continues to play Zeke. How much of that is forced on him and how much is him being stubborn is anyones guess.

 

[fredp22]

repeating what other are saying but you have to keep making counters to offset other teams moves. Moore came in with no experience and a game plan with no breadth. Took other teams few games to figure him out. Moore appears lost on his counter. Should have had more training before they made him the OC. Only bright side is Romo has stop drooling over him during games. Another Garrett leftover-he kept fawning over him to Jerry who bought in.

 

[Pass2Run]

Moore knows the offense is only as good as the players running it. I get it. We all see there is talent on this team.

I don't know, though... Maybe he's gone next year. I certainly hope we don't allow Kellen Moore to leave Dallas. I think you gotta make a move to keep him, if I'm Jerry.

 

[morat1959]

It won’t take long for the Dak defenders to come down on the the next OC whenever Kellen leaves. He may or may not be some of the problem but the 40 million dollar man is the main problem.

 

[Birch_Wood]

Since you asked.......I think the Kool-Aid has been tasted, regarding his prowess as an OC or "Guru" on this board. I'd ask, what is the reason for the recurring red-zone failures. It seems like we're snapping the ball for FG opportunities, too much to my liking. Anyway, respect your post, but I did have the eyebrows raised. All good.

I agree regarding the red zone. Something has changed. But I don't think he forgot how to get into the red zone. Maybe, but this was not a problem first 6 out of 7 games.