Kellen Moore wanted out of Dallas

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I didn’t say they were a bigger factor . I said they were contributing factors.

Your focus has been on only one factor. I simply introduced other contributing factors.
You introduced should've have's and could have's.

You can say that for any game, in any sport, that's ever been played.
 

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Yeah, about that. A big part of why Moore became OC is because he was buddy buddy with Dak. We will see if he is truly credentialed.
Taking the Cowboys from a 20 something ranked offense in 2018 with Linehan to the #1 ranked offense in 2019 with Moore doesn't prove your credentialed?
 

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The box score says those are just incomplete passes.

Ya know like the pick 6 the 49ers dropped says just an incomplete pass.

Oh, and it's just a "missed tackle" in the boxscore for the defender that let Dak go in the end zone when it could've been a safety.
An INT also goes as an incomplete pass.
Just as a TD also counts as a 1st down.
But you probably know that.

Missed tackles were never a stat, until PFF or Next Gen stats or one of those places started keeping track.
Supposedly during the regular season Diggs had only 4 missed tackles. However, he was afraid to hit Kittle at a key point in the game, to possiblyjhar that ball loose. And probably would have.
At that point, I did not care about his regular season stats, he missed that one, and it was a big one. Though it would not have been a tackle stat, just an incomplete pass.

Anyway, yeah, no one will see those in the box score. Just like no one cares if a pitcher throws 3 pitches in the bottom of the 9th, the 1st 2, resulting in outs, if the 3rd one was a game winning home run.
Final results count. we were out, SF played another game. Bottom line.
Those 2 picks by Dak cost us big time, as that play to Kittle may not have happened if Dak did his job. Both teams had dropped INT's, it was the ones SF caught that cost us.

At that point I was done with Dak. I will root for him as he is still our QB. But I am trying not to defend him either (still working on that). :laugh:
 

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An INT also goes as an incomplete pass.
Just as a TD also counts as a 1st down.
But you probably know that.

Missed tackles were never a stat, until PFF or Next Gen stats or one of those places started keeping track.
Supposedly during the regular season Diggs had only 4 missed tackles. However, he was afraid to hit Kittle at a key point in the game, to possiblyjhar that ball loose. And probably would have.
At that point, I did not care about his regular season stats, he missed that one, and it was a big one. Though it would not have been a tackle stat, just an incomplete pass.

Anyway, yeah, no one will see those in the box score. Just like no one cares if a pitcher throws 3 pitches in the bottom of the 9th, the 1st 2, resulting in outs, if the 3rd one was a game winning home run.
Final results count. we were out, SF played another game. Bottom line.
Those 2 picks by Dak cost us big time, as that play to Kittle may not have happened if Dak did his job. Both teams had dropped INT's, it was the ones SF caught that cost us.

At that point I was done with Dak. I will root for him as he is still our QB. But I am trying not to defend him either (still working on that). :laugh:
Yeah, I'm kinda done hoping Dak becomes this QB that he's not capable of being. He is what he is.

The best thing for the Cowboys is if Dak is just flat out bad from this point on so there isn't even a question as to whether or not we waste more years on him or not. We move on at that point.

If it takes us losing some games in the meantime to have a shot at truly being successful 3 years from now then so be it.

The QB position has got to be taken seriously.
 

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Taking the Cowboys from a 20 something ranked offense in 2018 with Linehan to the #1 ranked offense in 2019 with Moore doesn't prove your credentialed?
Dak was good before Linehan, similarly to how he was with Moore. How much was it just Dak being good in garbage time?
 

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Regardless of who the OC is or who calls plays, the QB's inconsistency with accuracy is still an issue that has to be addressed. Can an OC or QBC fix that?
 

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Dak was good before Linehan, similarly to how he was with Moore. How much was it just Dak being good in garbage time?
There's the rub.

2019 was also the year I was done with Dak.

We had the #1 ranked offense, but finished 8-8. We shrunk against every good defense we played.

I think a lot of Dak stats are smoke and mirrors, and you could probably say the same amount Moore. I still think Moore is a better OC than Dak is QB though.
 

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How do you conclude Jerry doesn't have high expectations this season? Jerry loves Dak, and Dak isn't any worse today than he was when Jerry bestowed that contract upon him. Jerry is 81 and knows he does not have the luxury of time on his side. What we do this off season is what Jerry and son think is the path to the super bowl and that is their expectation.

Kellens contract was up and JERRY decided not to renew it. It is a kinder way of saying he was fired. The chargers had to ask for permission b/c Moore is under contract until the new league year begins which is Feb 13th. The chargers didn't want to wait until the official expiration of Moore's contract to get him interviewed and signed.
Kellen had one more year left. He also got a pay raise a couple years back.

Jerry flat-out after the 49ers game said he thought the advantage was our experienced Qb.

Dak is a huge cap hit next year if they tried to get rid of him.
 

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Yea, those last desperation plays are worthless. Anyone judging our OC on that are ridiculous.

I thought it was actually an interesting set up. And getting the ball in Turpin hands was ideal. I’d rather see something like that than those silly laterals which usually go backwards.
It actually had at least some potential. They got both their best rac guys in the middle of the field. Both of them presented an opportunity to receive the ball.

I'm honestly not trying to dog the QB to much on that one play but it can't be denied that he took way to long to let that ball go, and in hindsight, once the window to Turpin closed, the play was to put it over Turpin into the open space behind him, giving Lamb a chance.

Either way though, it would have been the play of the millennium to actually pull it off.
 

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There's the rub.

2019 was also the year I was done with Dak.

We had the #1 ranked offense, but finished 8-8. We shrunk against every good defense we played.

I think a lot of Dak stats are smoke and mirrors, and you could probably say the same amount Moore. I still think Moore is a better OC than Dak is QB though.
I was done with Dak in 2016. I wanted Romo to start those playoffs, even if it would lead to yet another choke or injury. I'm still hot about it.
 

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This is why I didn't take you serious, because you're not interested in what I have to say. We've been down this road. You're here to be a d-bag which is clearly illustrated by your responses, specifically the insults.
Your actions are blatant, even if you think you're smarter.
Childish deflection, based on assumption, designed solely to protect your fragile ego.

I asked a question that you have no answer for. Own it.
 

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You introduced should've have's and could have's.

You can say that for any game, in any sport, that's ever been played.
That’s what we can call contributing factors . Even weather conditions can be a contributing factor . Or travel. Days off in between games . Injuries, etc.
 
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So speaks an old Romo lover who acts as if he wasn't.
:muttley:
You’re wrong again . I was a Romo critic as well. And ultimately why I was banned from old site.

You’re so far up Daksters butt you don’t even realize who I’m referring to as a Dak Hack. Lol

I’ve defended your boy against them . You should really be careful coming after me. It never ends well for you.
 
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