Twitter: Kellen Moore: We see KaVontae Turpin as a receiver

[stilltheguru]

Guy is way better than people give him credit for.

If that was true he wouldn't be here still.

 

[DandyDon52]

he has potential, and kellen may have said this to appease turpin who wants to be a wr.
That said they may get him hurt, overused, underused, and no telling what else, it remains to be seen.

 

[plasticman]

On the contrary they already know that he is an excellent weapon on offense. They have been using him on offense from the 1st day he came in and he has delivered from day 1,

Yes, he has delivered as you say. I am very happy the Cowboys have him and I know there will be a great deal of temptation to use him as much as possible, too much, I fear.

He delivered in a preseason game filled with guys that are now on practice squads or cut. How will Turpin's durability hold out for a 17 game regular season against the 1st teamers that sat on the bench during the preseason? There will be times that he is covered by someone that literally outweighs him by almost 100 pounds.

I'm not against Turpin out there for a few special plays now and then but to use him liberally as a piece of the offense is taking a huge risk, particularly if he is a highly successful returner. If he gets hurt during an offensive play then the Cowboys have denied themselves a very valuable weapon because they got too greedy.

Jerry likes players that excites the fans by making big plays. It's one of the reasons he pays too much for WR's in trades. It's also the reason that Jones resigned Marion Barber and made him the starter. That just wasn't Barber's role. Barber came in and took advantage of fatigued defenses with his aggressive running style. He was a great 4th quarter finisher but his style wasn't compatible with over 20 carries so he failed.

Jerry tried to make Barber something that he wasn't and I hope he never gets the same idea with Turpin.

 

[DogFace]

With jet sweeps also comes fake jet sweeps and will occupy a guy or two.

 

[Pass2Run]

If that was true he wouldn't be here still.

Listen to yourself.

Pathetic.

 

[Maxmadden]

I don't know why you're so dug in on these takes. Turpin has plenty of long speed. Maybe he's not as fast on the top end as Hill.. but there's no law that says he can't be. I also think you're overselling the whole size thing. Turpin will be the quickest most agile player on the field so nobody is lining him up for big hits. He will control when he runs out of bounds and he simply needs to know when to get on the ground or get out of bounds before any big collision. It's not like he just woke up being the smallest guy on the field. My guess is he's always been the littlest kid on the field.. yet he has always managed to excel. If not for the domestic violence situation he would already be in his 4th or 5th year in the NFL.. The kid can play.... all he has ever needed was the opportunity.. Now he has it.. watch him soar.

I don't know why you care what I think. They are just opinions. I hope he can set the NFL on fire I just think the odds are against him.

 

[OmerV]

I'm sure, KM speaking as the OC does see Turpin as a receiver however I'm also sure that Bones as the ST coordinator sees Turpin as a KR/PR.

. I don’t think Moore was saying they don’t also see him as a ST guy

 

[OmerV]

At his size, is he going to stand up to the NFL at WR?

I'd rather see him stay healthy and turn a few field positions around on returns than try to make him something he may not be. He's also not a rookie, he's 26 years old now so.............

I hope I'm wrong and we have something on our hands, I really do.

Notice that Moore said he can play a role as a WR, not that he will get heavy usage or a large % of the targets. He won’t be an every down receiver, and maybe only on the field 20-30% of the offensive snaps. My guess is he may catch 2-3 passes a game, and get an occasional end around ,

 

[JoeKing]

. I don’t think Moore was saying they don’t also see him as a ST guy

It's not his job to step on the ST coordinator's toes by saying who won't play ST. So, of course, he wasn't saying they don't see Turpin as an ST guy.

 

[JoeKing]

Notice that Moore said he can play a role as a WR, not that he will get heavy usage or a large % of the targets. He won’t be an every down receiver, and maybe only on the field 20-30% of the offensive snaps. My guess is he may catch 2-3 passes a game, and get an occasional end around ,

Only a couple of guys are an every-down receiver. I don't think anyone was under the impression Turpin was one of those guys. He's a gadget guy that will have gadget plays designed just for him. When he's on the field, defenses have to notice that and key on him. He may as well be wearing a sign that says, "I'm getting the ball". He's not there to block, lol. If Moore is truly smart, he will allow defenses to see that look and then sometimes use Turpin as a decoy to misdirect the defense and on the fly, go a different direction that has been left open.

 

[starfan1]

Turpin is nowhere close to Hill.

He has a lot quick speed and if used properly he can really help this team but he will never be Tyreek Hill. I don't care what he his 40 time is he is nowhere near as fast as Hill. I don't even think he is the fastest Cowboy player. But he has enough quick speed to be a game changer if put in the right scenarios.

I belive he faster than hill not by much but if they ran a 100 he might take it but hes a stick thats the difference.Hill is thick.

 

[Cmac]

The reverse play ("Lucky Whitehead Special") is returning.....but the missed blocks will fail it.

 

[xwalker]

Perhaps they treat him like that speedy end around specialist/trick play guy but with his speed they would be wise to try and develop him into a dangerous slot WR to get that quick hit pass and let him YAC it up.

Last season they threw a lot of those WR smoke routes and WR screens to CeeDee. The passes where he takes a step back at the line then tries to gain yards. They'll likely start Turpin with so.e of those and occasionally the end around or jet sweep stuff.

Expect to see Noah Brown lead blocking.

 

[Ranched]

You mean the #1 offense in the entire NFL last year?

Oh please. That's MM's credit. Moore didn't do squat under Garrett & his lousy play calling will continue. Why do you think MM hired another coach to help Moore. You honestly don't think last year was because of Moore alone.

Had Moore not sit 2 wr's when the division was on the line in Philly on 4th & goal & call the same run play, Dallas would have won the division back to back.

 

[OmerV]

It's not his job to step on the ST coordinator's toes by saying who won't play ST. So, of course, he wasn't saying they don't see Turpin as an ST guy.

Then why did you feel the need to say the ST coach would see him as a ST guy? If you felt KM's comment was completely unrelated to Turpin's other roles on the team then your comment about ST's would be irrelevant.

Obviously the coaches talk, and it all falls under the scope of the head coach, so ultimately both coaches would see him fitting in both roles.

 

[OmerV]

Only a couple of guys are an every-down receiver. I don't think anyone was under the impression Turpin was one of those guys. He's a gadget guy that will have gadget plays designed just for him. When he's on the field, defenses have to notice that and key on him. He may as well be wearing a sign that says, "I'm getting the ball". He's not there to block, lol. If Moore is truly smart, he will allow defenses to see that look and then sometimes use Turpin as a decoy to misdirect the defense and on the fly, go a different direction that has been left open.

The guy I responded to expressed concern over Turpin "holding up" as a receiver, which to me suggests concern over heavy usage.

I see him the similar to you - that he won't be in as a normal kind of receiver and will be used on gadget plays. I believe he will be in the game more than just to come in and run the gadget play and leave. Like you said, that's just too easy for defenses to read. I think he will be on the field at least enough where defenses can't be sure if he is getting the ball or not, and to take advantage of the kind of decoy/misdirection you mentioned.

 

[glimmerman]

I'm sure, KM speaking as the OC does see Turpin as a receiver however I'm also sure that Bones as the ST coordinator sees Turpin as a KR/PR.

Turpin maybe the busiest player on the team. If we can use him like beez was used it would be great.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Unnecessary, his opinion is as valid as yours

He has a M.O. of insulting and name calling. It's tolerated.

 

[SexyDexy52]

With Turpin, he is so fast and his change of direction so good I see no reason why he can’t play the slot like Beasley did. Use that quickness and COD to break some ankles for a quick option route and get a first down, then either take a dive towards the sideline (like Beasley always did) or if their is room grab more yards but don’t take hits (again ala Beasley). He could be better than Bease, because of his suddenness and speed coming out of the slot.

 

[CowboyFrog]

You dont need to throw him the ball 10 times a game, but getting him involved in the offense helps control what the safties are doing....the other team will be looking to bracket Lamb with Turpin on the field they will have to keep an eye on him because if he gets a LB 1v1 its curtains...it will take one play that a safty leans to Lamb and Turpin takes them deep and now your giving Lamb some breathing room. He was never TCU's leading WR but he was always the most dangerous WR on the field and his TD to catch Ratio is pretty crazy...hell his TD to touch ratio is nuts.