Keyshawn in Miami?

[Nors]

That swaggar sure worked in December when Keyshawn was playing for Dallas....

Let the defense of Parcells continue...

After 5-11, 5-11, 5-11 at least Parcells made December matter in his years here. And gave WADE A VERY GOOD ROSTER.

 

[Nors]

Very, very, very true.

Carolina Panthers
Jarrett often draws similarities to former Pro Bowl WR Keyshawn Johnson. Both are considered "possession" receivers and both played at USC. Although Johnson had publicly stated that he looked forward to mentoring Jarrett, it was not to be as Johnson was released three days after Jarrett was drafted, preventing the two from playing together.[7] Coincidentally, Johnson had initially stated that Jarrett would be best served by staying at USC an extra year and entering the draft as a senior.[7]

After being inactive for 7 of the first 8 games, Jarrett was activated for week 9 against Atlanta due to the injury of 2nd string receiver Keary Colbert. He had his somewhat breakout game doubling his reception total for the year getting two catches for 28 yards and he also recorded a special-teams tackle. On the year he has 3 catches for 34 yards and one tackle. (finished with 6 catches for year)

Key - in 2006 had 70 catches for 815 yards. He's going to play for the Tuna and Ireland in 2008!

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Carolina Panthers
Jarrett often draws similarities to former Pro Bowl WR Keyshawn Johnson. Both are considered "possession" receivers and both played at USC. Although Johnson had publicly stated that he looked forward to mentoring Jarrett, it was not to be as Johnson was released three days after Jarrett was drafted, preventing the two from playing together.[7] Coincidentally, Johnson had initially stated that Jarrett would be best served by staying at USC an extra year and entering the draft as a senior.[7]

After being inactive for 7 of the first 8 games, Jarrett was activated for week 9 against Atlanta due to the injury of 2nd string receiver Keary Colbert. He had his somewhat breakout game doubling his reception total for the year getting two catches for 28 yards and he also recorded a special-teams tackle. On the year he has 3 catches for 34 yards and one tackle. (finished with 6 catches for year)

Key - in 2006 had 70 catches for 815 yards. He's going to play for the Tuna and Ireland in 2008!

Yeah that move by Carolina proved to be absolutely a genius move. It was the first sign of bad things to come for them. Stupid, stupid, stupid move on their part.

They should have kept Key at least for the year, in case something like that happened, but also so he could mentor the younger guy.

 

[InmanRoshi]

The Panthers are already saying that Jarrett is going to have to grow by leaps and bounds before he can even contribute in Year 2.

Can't get seperation, doesn't pick up the playbook, doesn't put in extra time, sloppy route running ... can you say Mike Williams Part 2?

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Which is a shame cause the guy has some serious talent, same as Mike did, but I guess it just came so easy to them in college that they don't know how to, or want to know how might be more accurate, put the work in that is needed to be a great WR in the NFL.

 

[khiladi]

After 5-11, 5-11, 5-11 at least Parcells made December matter in his years here. And gave WADE A VERY GOOD ROSTER.

He did? How did he do in that month?

Then that must mean that 10-6 was Campo's roster... How much does that drop Parcells' percentage of wins then?

I particularly like how Parcells left Wade with the options of Jacques Reeves, Nate Jones, and Aaron Glen. Or how about an overweight Bradie James that was on the verge of being cut until he actually lost weight to play for Wade. Parcells judged Bradie based on how he could play in his system, and it is clear Parcells' judgement on that matter blew.

 

[khiladi]

Yeah that move by Carolina proved to be absolutely a genius move. It was the first sign of bad things to come for them. Stupid, stupid, stupid move on their part.

You mean it had nothing to do with the fact that they had their starting QB go down, and were left with choosing between Vinny Testaverde, another Parcells player, and David Carr.

I'm sure Key would have put up those numbers in the same situation.

Key - in 2006 had 70 catches for 815 yards. He's going to play for the Tuna and Ireland in 2008!

Those are pretty impressive numbers when teams are doubling Steve Smith, especially when you start analyzing it. (sarcasm)

How about the 2006 performance, with those 4 TDs and 70 catches. What is that? When teams were doubling TO, ss a number 2 receiver in 2007 Crayton had 20 less catches then Keyshawn in 2006, and had 3 more TDs. Crayton had 36 receptions in 2006, and had 4 TDs. That is 34 less passes thrown his way as a third receiver, and he still scored as much as Keyshawn.

 

[Romo2Dez4six]

Not surprised at all about Key being possibly in a Miami uniform. I don't see Chad Johnson being on the Miami sideline, at all.

chad maybe when he plays them and gets knocked out of bounds on their side

 

[jman]

Not when Bill Parcells is VP of Football Operations they shouldn't.

Not according to his contract...He was to hire a GM and then let the GM hire a Head Coach. The GM has the say about all things football. And trust me, I loved Key while he was here, but bringing in a player and all but assuring him a spot on the roster is NOT Parcells call. That's the GM's job. Or at least the coach.

This whole process has been a joke, just like the investigation into Spygate.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

You mean it had nothing to do with the fact that they had their starting QB go down, and were left with choosing between Vinny Testaverde, another Parcells player, and David Carr.

I'm sure Key would have put up those numbers in the same situation.



Those are pretty impressive numbers when teams are doubling Steve Smith, especially when you start analyzing it. (sarcasm)

How about the 2006 performance, with those 4 TDs and 70 catches. What is that? When teams were doubling TO, ss a number 2 receiver in 2007 Crayton had 20 less catches then Keyshawn in 2006, and had 3 more TDs. Crayton had 36 receptions in 2006, and had 4 TDs. That is 34 less passes thrown his way as a third receiver, and he still scored as much as Keyshawn.

First, if you'd read the post up there, the guy didn't even get on the field. So QB play had NOTHING to do with Jarrett not doing anything. His inability to learn the system, playbook, and such were.

So, yes, Key would have DEFINATELY added more to Carolina than Dwayne did.


And as for the 'not impressive numbers'...Jesus Christ. Does every fan think that EVERY number 2 is going to put up Reggie Wayne or TJ type numbers? Get it straight, people, number twos, generally, are not going to be putting up 1200+ yards and 10+ touchdowns every year. It's why they're NUMBER TWO's.

Plus Wayne and TJ are, IMO, totally not related to the talk of true #2's cause they're actually #1's on a team that already has a number one. Reggie Wayne more than proved this year, with Harrison missing 11 or 12 games that he's more than capable of being a number one. He had one of his better years, without Marvin on the other side.

60+ catches and 800 or more yards is very, very good from your number 2 WR. Especially when you're on a team, like Dallas, that has a great TE to go with it.

I guess everyone thinks that both WR's should catch 100 balls and get 1400 or more yards and 12+ TDs every single year.

 

[khiladi]

First, if you'd read the post up there, the guy didn't even get on the field. So QB play had NOTHING to do with Jarrett not doing anything. His inability to learn the system, playbook, and such were.

So, yes, Key would have DEFINATELY added more to Carolina than Dwayne did.

But you brought up Jarret's statistics of 6 catches this year and compared them to Keyshawn two years ago. Your talking about a situation with David Carr and Vinny Testaverde and a crappy offensive line. How can anyone compare this year with 2 seasons ago? I like how you ignore context when comparing Keyshawn to the other Carolina Panthers receivers, but when I bring up Patrick Crayton you say:

Especially when you're on a team, like Dallas, that has a great TE to go with it.

So what does that say about Keyshawn in Miami:

He's going to play for the Tuna and Ireland in 2008!

Yippity-do.... That means it is more akin to Keyshawn playing on Carolina this year, then two years ago...

Which brings us to:

I guess everyone thinks that both WR's should catch 100 balls and get 1400 or more yards and 12+ TDs every single year.

WHose talking about 12 TDs? I'm talking about numbers like 4 TDs with 70 catches, i.e. the TD to reception ratio. The guy is a non-factor in the red-zone and doesn't have any speed to make any big plays. I said that Patrick Crayton in plenty of less passes thrown his way produced more TDs as Keyshawn did who caught 70 passes. And Patrick Crayton isn't that fast either.

 

[Hostile]

Carolina Panthers
Jarrett often draws similarities to former Pro Bowl WR Keyshawn Johnson. Both are considered "possession" receivers and both played at USC. Although Johnson had publicly stated that he looked forward to mentoring Jarrett, it was not to be as Johnson was released three days after Jarrett was drafted, preventing the two from playing together.[7] Coincidentally, Johnson had initially stated that Jarrett would be best served by staying at USC an extra year and entering the draft as a senior.[7]

After being inactive for 7 of the first 8 games, Jarrett was activated for week 9 against Atlanta due to the injury of 2nd string receiver Keary Colbert. He had his somewhat breakout game doubling his reception total for the year getting two catches for 28 yards and he also recorded a special-teams tackle. On the year he has 3 catches for 34 yards and one tackle. (finished with 6 catches for year)

Key - in 2006 had 70 catches for 815 yards. He's going to play for the Tuna and Ireland in 2008!

Didn't see this until now. Are you thinking this slaps me or something? I don't care how Jarrett did. He wasn't one of my pets. I just think it's funny that Key got waived after he promised to guide Jarrett and take him under his wing. It was very smug on his part and he ended up looking like a total fool.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

But you brought up Jarret's statistics of 6 catches this year and compared them to Keyshawn two years ago. Your talking about a situation with David Carr and Vinny Testaverde and a crappy offensive line. How can anyone compare this year with 2 seasons ago? I like how you ignore context when comparing Keyshawn to the other Carolina Panthers receivers, but when I bring up Patrick Crayton you say:

Really? I don't recall mentioning he had 6 receptions, ever. I simply responded to the fact that he didn't produce cause he couldn't get himself on the field based on the fact that he can't seem to learn the offense.

I never once said "he had 6 receptions" cause I had no idea what his final total was. I just know that he didn't provide the impact they thought he would cause he couldn't get on the field.

And, yes, I do believe, even with those QBs, that Key would have caught quite a few more than 6 passes. So, yes, I still think that Key would have been more productive than Dwayne. By far.

It was still a very bad move and decision on the part of the Panthers.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Oh, and not to mention, how much did having David Carr effect Andre Johnsons ability to catch the ball when he had NO ONE else on the team? I'd say he did pretty well, despite that, so you'd think Jarrett, in the times he was able to actually get himself on the field, might have added a little more than 6 receptions.

 

[khiladi]

Really? I don't recall mentioning he had 6 receptions, ever. I simply responded to the fact that he didn't produce cause he couldn't get himself on the field based on the fact that he can't seem to learn the offense.

I never once said "he had 6 receptions" cause I had no idea what his final total was. I just know that he didn't provide the impact they thought he would cause he couldn't get on the field.

And, yes, I do believe, even with those QBs, that Key would have caught quite a few more than 6 passes. So, yes, I still think that Key would have been more productive than Dwayne. By far.

It was still a very bad move and decision on the part of the Panthers.

Apologies. You had commented on Nors comment which mentions the six catches. My comments were directed at Nors, after going back and re-reading it.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Apologies. You had commented on Nors comment which mentions the six catches. My comments were directed at Nors, after going back and re-reading it.

No biggy. We're all friends here.