keyshawn says he is a hall of famer? what do you think

[STSINAZ]

Here are his numbers. even if he has three more seasons at 8 or 900 yards I dont think he gets in. He has truely overrated himself. He is not a Michael Irvin and has never been a Michael Irvin! I dont care where he was drafted!

Receiving Stats
YEAR TEAM G REC YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST
1996 NYJ 14 63 844 13.4 50 8 42 0 0
1997 NYJ 16 70 963 13.8 39 5 50 0 0
1998 NYJ 16 83 1131 13.6 41 10 60 0 0
1999 NYJ 16 89 1170 13.1 65 8 57 0 0
2000 TAM 16 71 874 12.3 38 8 49 2 2
2001 TAM 15 106 1266 11.9 47 1 67 2 1
2002 TAM 16 76 1088 14.3 76 5 53 0 0
2003 TAM 10 45 600 13.3 39 3 33 0 0
2004 DAL 16 70 981 14.0 39 6 53 1 1
2005 DAL 3 12 165 13.8 27 3 10 0 0
Career 138 685 9082 13.3 76 57 474 5 4


Is he crazy! check out michael's numbers and you will see how crazy he is!

 

[dargonking999]

Stats dont mean a thing, he wont be a HOF because he's a cowboys, there areguys in the HOF who have less numbers than Irvin and are in. What right are we doing Key, comparing him to Irvin? Key was a good/great WR for the teams he was on, and helped them. Look at TB, it took them 2 years before there passing game has started to do anything. If key had some good years the next 3-4 years, and lead us to some SB then i would consdier it.

 

[STSINAZ]

keyshawn has only broken 1200 yards one time...how many times did michael do that? that will answer your question of how much better michael is than keyshawn...HOF numbers usually include several 1300 yard or more seasons...at least players from todays era I am talking...

 

[STSINAZ]

key is a number two right now IMO anyway...i dont know why he is complaining...if he was looking at a guy of his age and stature he would say the same thing...the only reason he is mad is because its him who they are talking about....

 

[scottsp]

I like what Keyshawn brings to this team, but he is in no way a Hall of Famer.

 

[scottsp]

The fact he dons the Cowboy colors is irrelevant. He does not belong in Canton.

 

[STSINAZ]

i agree..it has nothing to do with who he plays for...either way he doesnt get it...not with those numbers...and stats do matter...they dont show everything but they show something...no one in this era will ever get into canton as a wide receiver with the numbers that keyshawn has...it will never happen...

 

[k19]

Stats dont matter. Drew Pearsons stats are better then both Swanns and comparable to Stallworth considering Pearson played 3 seasons less then Stalworth. Dont see his bust in Canton now do you.

Bob Hayes revolutionized the position and has better numbers then Swann, but no bust in Canton.

Still think stats do matter?

 

[STSINAZ]

stats still matter...i dont care what you say...now the dallas bias that's a different thing...outside of that stats matter...thats my point...key has been not been with us long enough to have that bias...he doesnt have the stats either...he is not up there with the elite as far as a gamechanger...there are several things that they look for in a hall of famers and key doesnt have them...he is a good player thats it...not an elite player...not a TO or a Marvin Harrision...or a Jerry Rice...nor a Michael Irvin...

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Nope.

I dont think I can point to a time where he was the best receiver in the game hands down.

Stats matter, but what really matters is how your peers see you and how well you stacked up against the best of the best in your era.

I dont think he even makes it on the 2nd All-Decade Team, if one was done.

Good player but not a hall of famer.

The only players that I think are on the roster that have a shot at Canton when it is all said and done is La'Roi Glover and maybe just maybe if he continues to play well is Jason Witten.

I would give Honorable Mention to Roy Williams. But he will have to work on his obvious weaknesses but he has Hall of Fame talent.

- Mike G.

 

[k19]

stats still matter...i dont care what you say...now the dallas bias that's a different thing...outside of that stats matter...thats my point...key has been not been with us long enough to have that bias...he doesnt have the stats either...he is not up there with the elite as far as a gamechanger...there are several things that they look for in a hall of famers and key doesnt have them...he is a good player thats it...not an elite player...not a TO or a Marvin Harrision...or a Jerry Rice...nor a Michael Irvin...

So if he eclipses Irvins numbers in less time, which he's on pace to do in a few categories (receptiond ans TD's I believe) will you still say stats do mean something becuase if you do your basically casting an HOF vote for him. If you get what I mean.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I forgot, Drew Bledsoe has a chance too, but I think he needs a ring to get in.

- Mike G.

 

[STSINAZ]

i get your point....here are michaels stats...now you really cant count his last season IMO


Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1988 dal | 14 | 1 2 2.0 0 | 32 654 20.4 5 |
| 1989 dal | 6 | 1 6 6.0 0 | 26 378 14.5 2 |
| 1990 dal | 12 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 20 413 20.6 5 |
| 1991 dal | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 93 1523 16.4 8 |
| 1992 dal | 16 | 1 -9 -9.0 0 | 78 1396 17.9 7 |
| 1993 dal | 16 | 2 6 3.0 0 | 88 1330 15.1 7 |
| 1994 dal | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 79 1241 15.7 6 |
| 1995 dal | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 111 1603 14.4 10 |
| 1996 dal | 11 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 64 962 15.0 2 |
| 1997 dal | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 75 1180 15.7 9 |
| 1998 dal | 16 | 1 1 1.0 0 | 74 1057 14.3 1 |
| 1999 dal | 4 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 10 167 16.7 3 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 159 | 6 6 1.0 0 | 750 11904 15.9 65 |

4 seasons over 1300 yards..the main thing is this...michael was a serious force in us winning those championships and key was only in one of them..he helped dont get me wrong but the main reason they won was the defense...thats where the two are separated case closed...so i get what you mean K 19...i think you see them both this way right? michael was a superstar and key never really was even a star...now in his eyes it was a whole different story! i just think he also saw the dollar side of this whole thing...meaning key...and he ran with it...writing books...things like that...and if he wasnt marketing himself who would? but to me he is not even close to what michael was as far as what he meant to a team...put it this way we could live right now without keyshawn...but you could never say that about michael...i could have replaced key on any team he was on and got by...

 

[Natedawg44]

We are in the era of the WR now his stats are not hall worthy when you consider the numbers being cranked out now. Rod Smith undrafted FA is a more legitimate hall of famer more than Keyshawn number one overall.

 

[Hostile]

I wish he'd worry about 2005, 2006, and as many seasons as he is here over whether or not he has earned the HOF. IMO he shouldn't even be thinking about this right now. Thinking about it won't make him a better WR. Play the game and let the HOF take care of itself.

 

[Nors]

he's not a HOF player

 

[NorTex]

I'm surprised that Key's numbers are that good. His stats for his first nine years are almost identical to Irvin's. He actually has 2 more TDs than Michael.

One thing I see is that Keyshawn has been absolutely consistent throughout his career.

Three more good years and Key's numbers will basically mirror Irvin's.

I thought Keyshawn's argument that if he had played with one QB, especially if it were Aikman, he would have had much better stats than Michael. And he's right, just look at Marvin Harrison and Jerry Rice...it matters who throws you the ball.

 

[NorTex]

BTW, the reason Keyshawn was talking about this was in response to the interviewer asking him what he thought about Michael Irvin calling him a #2 receiver.

Michael is way out of line to say that, as Key pointed out, their stats are very similar.

 

[Danny White]

Of course Key is not a HOFer, at least not yet.

But you know what? I'm glad he thinks he is or can be. Do you want a receiver (of all positions) who thinks anything less of himself? I'll take that (over) confidence over a shrinking violet everyday.

I haven't always been a Key fan, but I've come to appreciate his attitude a bit more over the years. He thinks there's no way any of these guys can cover him, and he just goes out and makes plays. I think a lot of his effectiveness stems from his attitude, and I don't want him to ever lose that while he's wearing the Star!

And one last thing... if he can keep it up for a few more years, put up great stats, and help us win a Superbowl or two... he just MAY end up earning that spot in Canton... it certainly isn't the biggest stretch in the world.

 

[lane]

keyshawn has earned my respect big time since he has been a cowboy.

hall of famer............ with bledsoe throwing the ball to him a couple more years, who knows?

i will say he is in the same mold as irvin as far as having great hands and giving his body up for the team. key's only weakness is lack of speed.

if we get one or two rings with key before he retires..... drew and key will be hall of famers. i'd like to see terry glenn get a ring or two also.