Kinda funny--NFL's "Not Worth It" FAs

[Kittymama]

NFL's All-'Not Worth It' Free-Agent Team
Eric Moneypenny / FOXSports.com
Posted: 15 hours ago

As July rolls around, there are plenty of 'big-name' NFL free agents still available .

However, if I were a general manager, I wouldn't touch some of these guys with a ten-foot piece of open salary cap. Therefore, I present you, my FOXSports.comrades, with the 2005 NFL All-"Not Worth It" Available Free Agent Team!

OFFENSE
Quarterback — Jeff George
Yes, anybody who has watched him play once realizes, "Gee whiz, that Jeff George has a really strong arm."

Well, so does John Rocker. Now, that's not to say I'm comparing anything George has done in the past to anything Rocker has done, because alienating June Jones is no comparison to alienating the biggest city in the world (and millions more people). But it is to say that if I were an NFL GM, both of them would have roughly the same chance of getting signed by me this season. And that percentage is equal to the number of touchdowns George threw in his last season of NFL action (Zero, 2001).

If he wants to comeback this season, great. Just not on my team. Second-team "All-Not Worth It" honors go to Vinny "Hang it Up!" Testaverde, while third-team honors go to Quincy "Drug Suspension it Up!" Carter.

Running back — Eddie George
Some of you are probably thinking, "Hey, Eddie George wouldn't be a bad pick-up for a team who could get him cheap, and use him sparingly." The Cowboys used George sparingly over the last six games he played, and he ran the ball 29 times for 83 yards, which is only 2.9 per carry.

We all know George has always been a workhorse, and he's still a guy who could maybe get you 70 yards if you gave it to him 20 times a game. But let's face it, he'd break down after nine or ten games, and you're not going to want to pay him a 20-carry per game salary. Developing a young second or third-string back would be better than reserving a roster spot for George, just so he can give you 4 carries for 9 yards.

Fullback — Exempt
We won't be picking on fullbacks. Those guys have it hard enough.

Wide receiver — Koren Robinson
Right now, Robinson is the William Green of receivers. His natural talent is special, he's just got to get his head clear.

Especially before he drives. Also, unlike Randy Moss, his recent production isn't really worth the money or issues. As of right now, does Koren go to a bad team and screw around, or does he go to a good team and screw around?

Luckily for him, he's not Lawrence Phillips or anything, so somebody will give him a chance to prove he's as good as his first couple years. Or, afford him another chance to screw around and underachieve.

Tight end — Ricky Dudley
As long as people remember the potential Dudley had coming out of Ohio State, he'll probably have a place on somebody's NFL team for as long as he wants to play. But production-wise, 35 catches over the past four seasons wouldn't want to make me open up my checkbook for this "receiving tight end."

Centers — Exempt
These guys have the toughest position on the field, and are fullbacks that don't get to wear cool numbers, catch passes, or run for one-yard TDs, but still have to hike the stupid ball and block the strongest, fattest, meanest guys on the field. Therefore, we won't be picking on centers. At least until Richie Incognito ever becomes a "big-name" free agent.

Guards — Exempt
See centers.

Tackles — Ross Verba and Kyle Turley
Ross Verba took the Oasis approach this off-season, proudly boasting that he's the best in the game, making some corners of the football world snicker. But, like the brothers Gallagher once claimed, if you tell everyone you're the best, maybe half of them are silly enough to believe you.

However, for those of us in the other fifty percent, we realize Verba is no Anthony Muñoz, and his off-season holdout in Cleveland (before being released) was approaching comical. Personally, I wouldn't necessarily need an offensive tackle around my locker room that acted like he was the straw that stirred the drink. Especially if that drink went 4-12 last season and couldn't move the ball.

Oh yeah, and if Kyle Turley were as focused at staying healthy and controlling his temper as he is at adding tattoos, he wouldn't be on this list either.


DEFENSE
Defensive ends — Exempt
There are no names on the comprehensive OurLads.com list big enough to pick on, so any of the defensive ends still left unsigned are probably worth the veteran minimum that you're willing to pay. But I've always held the belief that the bottom spots of the DE depth chart should be reserved for young, athletic-types, instead of an experienced, aging big fella.

Defensive tackles — Ellis Johnson
Johnson is only two off-seasons removed from being very productive. Which means that he's only one off-season removed from being very unproductive.

Linebackers — Exempt
Nobody really irks me that much on this list, but some team will probably pay more for Peter Boulware than he's worth in 2005. Historically speaking, it will probably be Cleveland.

Cornerbacks — Terrell Buckley
I have absolutely no problem with Terrell Buckley as a player. But since the turn of this century, Buckley has already played for four different teams. Signing him has become almost an admission that not only you intend to compete for the Super Bowl this very season, but also that you don't plan on keeping him around very long.

Safeties — Exempt
Between Brock Marion, Ray Buchanan, and Lance Schulters, there's not a bad "big-name" safety still available.
Which one of these guys will retire first: Gary Anderson or Morten Andersen? (Jonathan Daniel / Getty Images)
I was going to put Buchanan on the Bad Free-Agent team, but that's only because after his stint as guest co-host on NFL Total Access, I really want him to go into broadcasting.

Punters — Sean Landeta
One of the game's all-time best punters, he averaged 43.3 yards per punt last season. However, he was cut by St. Louis last season, and he's literally been punting professionally since I was two years old (1983 with the Philadelphia Stars of the USFL).

Kickers — Morten Andersen and Gary Anderson
Speaking of guys who have been playing pro ball since I was two, I present you the Andersen-slash-sons.

Like Landeta, they're legends (well, for kickers), experienced, and still capable of slightly above-average production. Face it, neither one of these guys will ever retire until the other one does, because if the one with the NFL all-time points record (Morten right now) quits, the other one (Gary) will probably stick around until he sets it. Then, the other one will come back out of retirement, and get the record. NFL teams can put a stop to this by not signing either of them. There has to be a young kicker (well, younger than 46) out there need of a break that can drill it better than these two can at this stage.

Eric Moneypenny is a frequent contributor to FOXSports.com. You may absolutely not e-mail him at moneypennysucks@yahoo.com.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

It is funny.

But it would be a lot funnier if three of the "Not Worth Its" hadn't so recently been the focal points of our offense.

 

[dargonking999]

Really to me any player thats played in the NFL is worth it, you never know what a player has to offer, who's to say they really wanted to lpay th place they were at,(turley) you never know about a player, i say thhe vetran minium for these guys, but there always "worth it"

 

[Duane]

What's sad is that we had three guys on that list around this time last year - Quincy, Vinny and Eddie.

 

[AsthmaField]

What's sad is that we had three guys on that list around this time last year - Quincy, Vinny and Eddie.

Yeah, but what isn't sad is that all three are gone.

I was extremely un-excited about adding Eddie George last year... by the first game of the season, I knew why. Offensive linemen have more explosion than Eddie did.

He was a pro about the whole thing though... so you have to give him credit for that.

 

[Duane]

Yeah, but what isn't sad is that all three are gone.

I was extremely un-excited about adding Eddie George last year... by the first game of the season, I knew why. Offensive linemen have more explosion than Eddie did.

He was a pro about the whole thing though... so you have to give him credit for that.

I give Eddie a lot of credit for being all class and helping JJ become a better RB in 2004.

 

[AsthmaField]

I give Eddie a lot of credit for being all class and helping JJ become a better RB in 2004.

Yep, Eddie could've made it very messy the last half of the season when he was getting no carries and JuJo was getting 30+ carries per game.

It had to be humiliating for a one time star to sit forgotten like that. It says a lot about his character how he handled it. He also might've just realized that he was finished... or at least that JuJo was running circles around him and he was no longer in JJ's class.

Either way, I respect how he dealt with it.

 

[kartr]

What's sad is that we had three guys on that list around this time last year - Quincy, Vinny and Eddie.

I saw that article and I thought it kinda silly because he lumped in guys who actually made a contribution and those who did nothing just because they weren't currently on a team, for example.

1) Vinny at 41 was actually better than some much younger starters such as Grossman and Josh McCown, plus Vinny threw for more yardage than Bledsoe, our current starter.
2) While Quincy's 2 wins for the Jets helped them win 1 more game than Buffalo putting them in the playoffs;Quincy also had a qb rating better than 90% of the starters in the NFL and completed over 60% of his passes
3) Eddie George didn't help us at all and certainly didn't put decent numbers in any category.
4) Vinny or Quincy would make better backups to Bledsoe than anything else we have and also would be great backups in Seattle,Oakland,Arizona,Tampa,Cleveland,Miami,Jetland,Denver,Chicago and probably start for half of the aforementioned teams. Look at their current backups (Seneca Wallace,Doug Johnson,Josh McCown,Danny Kanell,Chad Hutchinson,Marcus Tuiosopo(sp),Jay Fiedler.

 

[DallasEast]

OFFENSE
Quarterback — Jeff George
Yes, anybody who has watched him play once realizes, "Gee whiz, that Jeff George has a really strong arm."

Well, so does John Rocker. Now, that's not to say I'm comparing anything George has done in the past to anything Rocker has done, because alienating June Jones is no comparison to alienating the biggest city in the world (and millions more people).

Nit-picking comment: Perhaps someone should tell Mr. Moneypenny that Shanghai, China has 5 million more people than NYC.

 

[joseephuss]

Nit-picking comment: Perhaps someone should tell Mr. Moneypenny that Shanghai, China has 5 million more people than NYC.

http://www.citypopulation.de

1 Tokyo, Japan 34,000,000
2 Mexico City, Mexico 22,350,000
3 Seoul, South Korea 22,050,000
4 New York, NY, USA 21,800,000
5 Sao Paulo, Brazil 20,000,000
6 Bombay, India 19,400,000
7 Delhi, India 19,000,000
8 Los Angeles, CA, USA 17,750,000
9 Jakarta, Indonesia 16,850,000
10 Osaka, Japan 16,750,000
11 Calcutta, India 15,350,000
12 Cairo, Egypt 15,250,000
13 Manila, Philippines 14,550,000
14 Karachi, Pakistan 13,800,000
15 Moscow, Russia 13,650,000
16 Shanghai, China 13,400,000

 

[Alexander]

2) While Quincy's 2 wins for the Jets helped them win 1 more game than Buffalo putting them in the playoffs;Quincy also had a qb rating better than 90% of the starters in the NFL and completed over 60% of his passes

Give it up, brother---

90% of the starters in the NFL are not on drugs or bipolar.

And that was just two wins. Are you trying to imply that he would have been stellar over a sixteen game schedule?

To give him credit, he drove the bus for a few games, but he would have been exposed and the fact that the Jets rushed Pennington back with half of his arm strength should tell you something.

But then again, maybe it won't.

 

[DallasEast]

http://www.citypopulation.de

1 Tokyo, Japan 34,000,000
2 Mexico City, Mexico 22,350,000
3 Seoul, South Korea 22,050,000
4 New York, NY, USA 21,800,000
5 Sao Paulo, Brazil 20,000,000
6 Bombay, India 19,400,000
7 Delhi, India 19,000,000
8 Los Angeles, CA, USA 17,750,000
9 Jakarta, Indonesia 16,850,000
10 Osaka, Japan 16,750,000
11 Calcutta, India 15,350,000
12 Cairo, Egypt 15,250,000
13 Manila, Philippines 14,550,000
14 Karachi, Pakistan 13,800,000
15 Moscow, Russia 13,650,000
16 Shanghai, China 13,400,000

Man, that threw me for a second. For whatever reason, I couldn't easily find the webpage on the site you provided the link for.

The figures you provided from this webpage, http://www.citypopulation.de/World.html, are agglomeration totals--which are more commonly known as metropolitan areas--not cities. Agglomeration figures include both the principal city and surrounding communities. So, the population figures quoted are correct.

However, the population figures for the actual cities themselves are provided via a link (http://www.citypopulation.de/references_e.html) in the citypopulation.de website's Links and References page: The World Gazetteer. Following the links on this webpage, you will navigate to this page, http://www.world-gazetteer.com/wg.php?x=1119899317&men=gcis&lng=en&gln=xx&dat=32&srt=npan&col=aohdq&pt=c&va=&srt=pnan, and the following listing:

1. Shanghai... 14,608,512... China
2. Bombay... 12,691,836... India
3. Karāchi... 11,624,219... Pakistan
4. Buenos Aires... 11,574,205... Argentina
5. Delhi... 10,927,986... India
6. Manila... 10,444,527... Philippines
7. Moscow... 10,381,222... Russia
8. Seoul... 10,349,312... South Korea
9. São Paulo... 10,021,295... Brazil
10. İstanbul... 9,792,428... Turkey
11. Lagos... 8,789,120... Nigeria
12. Mexico City, 8,657,050... Mexico
13. Jakarta... 8,540,121... Indonesia
14. Tokyo... 8,336,599... Japan
15. New York... 8,107,916... United States of America

 

[joseephuss]

Man, that threw me for a second. For whatever reason, I couldn't easily find the webpage on the site you provided the link for.

The figures you provided from this webpage, http://www.citypopulation.de/World.html, are agglomeration totals--which are more commonly known as metropolitan areas--not cities. Agglomeration figures include both the principal city and surrounding communities. So, the population figures quoted are correct.

However, the population figures for the actual cities themselves are provided via a link (http://www.citypopulation.de/references_e.html) in the citypopulation.de website's Links and References page: The World Gazetteer. Following the links on this webpage, you will navigate to this page, http://www.world-gazetteer.com/wg.php?x=1119899317&men=gcis&lng=en&gln=xx&dat=32&srt=npan&col=aohdq&pt=c&va=&srt=pnan, and the following listing:

1. Shanghai... 14,608,512... China
2. Bombay... 12,691,836... India
3. Karāchi... 11,624,219... Pakistan
4. Buenos Aires... 11,574,205... Argentina
5. Delhi... 10,927,986... India
6. Manila... 10,444,527... Philippines
7. Moscow... 10,381,222... Russia
8. Seoul... 10,349,312... South Korea
9. São Paulo... 10,021,295... Brazil
10. İstanbul... 9,792,428... Turkey
11. Lagos... 8,789,120... Nigeria
12. Mexico City, 8,657,050... Mexico
13. Jakarta... 8,540,121... Indonesia
14. Tokyo... 8,336,599... Japan
15. New York... 8,107,916... United States of America

Thanks for the info. I couldn't navigate the site I round that well, so I couldn't just do the city population. I find it strange that one site lists Shangai with more people counting just the city than the other site using the metropolitan area. Seems kind of backwards.

 

[Waffle]

I saw that article and I thought it kinda silly because he lumped in guys who actually made a contribution and those who did nothing just because they weren't currently on a team, for example.

1) Vinny at 41 was actually better than some much younger starters such as Grossman and Josh McCown, plus Vinny threw for more yardage than Bledsoe, our current starter.

Agreed.

2) While Quincy's 2 wins for the Jets helped them win 1 more game than Buffalo putting them in the playoffs;Quincy also had a qb rating better than 90% of the starters in the NFL and completed over 60% of his passes...

But how would he have faired over an entire season? Guarantee those numbers would have plummeted with more atts.

...Seattle,Oakland,Arizona,Tampa,Cleveland,Miami,Jetland,Denver,Chicago and probably start for half of the aforementioned teams. Look at their current backups (Seneca Wallace,Doug Johnson,Josh McCown,Danny Kanell,Chad Hutchinson,Marcus Tuiosopo(sp),Jay Fiedler.

Some of those guys are pretty sad. However, they aren't sitting on the edge of that steep cliff known as "NFL suspension." That probably has more to do with it than talent if you ask me.

 

[Alexander]

Some of those guys are pretty sad. However, they aren't sitting on the edge of that steep cliff known as "NFL suspension." That probably has more to do with it than talent if you ask me.

Absolutely.

I think Carter would be a great backup for any team if his head was together. I can think of at least five teams he could easily be the backup.

He can win for a few games, but the more he is relied upon, the more his weaknesses are going to be exposed.

 

[kartr]

Give it up, brother---

90% of the starters in the NFL are not on drugs or bipolar.

And that was just two wins. Are you trying to imply that he would have been stellar over a sixteen game schedule?

To give him credit, he drove the bus for a few games, but he would have been exposed and the fact that the Jets rushed Pennington back with half of his arm strength should tell you something.

But then again, maybe it won't.

Exposed. You mean like the way Pennington was exposed against the Steelers twice and the Pats. Pennington's road record was 2-4, Carter's 2-0 and with a banged up C.Mart at that. Over a sixteen game schedule he helped us to win 10 games and with Hambrick, not C.Mart. Also Santana Moss came alive during Carter's 3 game starts ascending to the top five in receptions,tds and yards per catch and then his numbers plummeted agains when Penny came back. Some Jet fans wanted Penny to stay out a couple of more games and see what Q could do. Say what you want about Carter's talent, but the numbers tell the tale.
What the Jets did in rushing back Penny was foolish. They knew how bad his arm really was, but since they'd already made a financial committment to him they felt he had to earn his pay. They also mistakenly thought he was better than he was, but the New York media knew better and got all over Penny about his weak performances against top competition, that's why he had the big blow-up that he was chastised for. So be a homer if you want and sugar-coat and yes-man it all you want, but Parcell's blew it big time with Quincy's release, cause it set this team back five years at the qb position. Thirty three old immoble,fumble-prone pocket qb's who lose their jobs to pups cause they can't read defenses aren't upgrades over Q,plus wannabe Hutch's who can't beat out udfa types like Romo, certainly can't beat out Carter. Enjoy Q being gone, but you'll have to learn to enjoy losing again too. Sucker!!!

 

[dargonking999]

wow kartr i'm a big fan of Q andi think he coudl ahve done well if he had stayed, but dont you think you got a little harsh at the end of that, BP didnt makea mistake Q did in doing drugs, now as much as i would have love for himto stay, it looked as if BP just didnt want to have that worry on him, Qhas good talent yes but a drug problem that he needs to fix, and thats the truth.

 

[Waffle]

So be a homer if you want and sugar-coat and yes-man it all you want, but Parcell's blew it big time with Quincy's release, cause it set this team back five years at the qb position. !

Quincy set the QB position in Dallas back all by himself. Parcells simply cut his losses in order to start over while Q. now still unsuccessfully hunts for a job in the NFL.

 

[Alexander]

Exposed. You mean like the way Pennington was exposed against the Steelers twice and the Pats.

The teams who played in the AFC championship? Exposed by them?

That proves your point?

Some Jet fans wanted Penny to stay out a couple of more games and see what Q could do.

I will defer to LTN for confirmation on the Jet fan on the street feelings on this. Unless you can substanciate this claim on your own.

What the Jets did in rushing back Penny was foolish. They knew how bad his arm really was, but since they'd already made a financial committment to him they felt he had to earn his pay.

They must really be buffoons.

Oh wait. Maybe they might have stuck with Carter longer had he not relapsed, but you wouldn't think that, would you?

So be a homer if you want and sugar-coat and yes-man it all you want, but Parcell's blew it big time with Quincy's release, cause it set this team back five years at the qb position.

:laugh2:

Sorry. I do not know what decision Coach Parcells will regret more. Releasing Carter or trading Bryant.

And if Carter would be our solution right now, why is he still bouncing in and out of rehab?

Enjoy Q being gone, but you'll have to learn to enjoy losing again too. Sucker!!!

I am not enjoying him being gone. I just lament that he self-destructed and took us down with him.

 

[kartr]

Absolutely.

I think Carter would be a great backup for any team if his head was together. I can think of at least five teams he could easily be the backup.

He can win for a few games, but the more he is relied upon, the more his weaknesses are going to be exposed.

Five of the last 8 games of 2003 Carter threw for 200+ yards while Hambrick had zero 100 yard games. In fact, he averaged less than 40 yards per game against the Eagles,Giants,Commanders,Dolphins,Panthers and Saints. Where is the offensive balance, considering Carter was averaging over 200 yards per game? It's easy to expose weaknesses in any qb if he doesn't have any help. Carter had only 15 starts prior to 2003, he was practically a rookie in terms of playing time,whereas Bledsoe is getting the bad offensive line excuse again here. Buffalo officials admitted that they had some offensive line problems,but that doesn't excuse Bledsoe for holding the ball too long. If he held the ball too long, that tells you that he had plenty of time to throw and couldn't find an open receiver,yet didn't throw the ball away. That's inexcusable for a 12 year veteran,yet Carter doesn't get any breaks here playing with a very average supporting cast and having little experience. Just try and be a little bit fair will you.