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1) Andrew Luck *, Stanford QB 6-4 235
Analysis: Now completing 70.2 percent of passes in pro-style offense. Arm, smarts and intelligence are all there. Gift-wrapped QB pick. Last week: No. 1

2) Da'Quan Bowers *, Clemson DE 6-4 277
Analysis: His 24 TFL are second nationally. A tremendous physical talent who has shown steady relentlessness this year. Ideal size for 4-3 DE. Last week: No. 2

3) A.J. Green *, Georgia WR 6-4 207
Analysis: Green has been mostly unstoppable even with young QB. Not sure people realize what kind of route-runner he's become. Last week: No. 3

4) Patrick Peterson *, LSU CB 6-1 211
Analysis: More than freak athlete, Peterson has continued to improve his technical cover skills. Has quietly become among nation's top return threats. Last week: No. 4

5) Prince Amukamara, Nebraska CB 6-1 202
Analysis: I'd be more concerned about Amukamara's zero interceptions in 2010 if any quarterback was willing to challenge him. A gifted technician. Last week: No. 5

6) Nick Fairley *, Auburn DT 6-5 310
Analysis: Brilliant season from Fairley. He's dominated even while not 100 percent at times. He simply epitomizes the ideal penetrating 4-3 DT. Last week: No. 6

7) Ryan Mallett *, Arkansas QB 6-7 238
Analysis: Mallett has become far more than a big arm. Patience, poise and willingness to check down have enhanced his stock. Last week: No. 9

8) Cameron Newton, Auburn QB 6-6 250
Analysis: Once more, Newton got to show that he's more than a mere running threat. Capable of extending plays to use his big arm. Last week: No. 14

9) Julio Jones *, Alabama WR 6-4 211
Analysis: Jones had a stellar junior season; when healthy, he was impossible to stop; when not, he was still good. Greater ability to separate in 2010. Last week: No. 10

10) Marcell Dareus *, Alabama DE 6-3 306
Analysis: Played well early against Auburn in his last game, but looked worn with the rest of Bama's defense late. Best suited as 4-3 DT at the NFL level. Last week: No. 8

11) Robert Quinn *, North Carolina DE 6-4 267
Analysis: Freakish athlete with decent size, great quickness and pass-rush skills. Ineligible all year, but scouts are captivated by his talent. Last week: No. 7

12) Ryan Kerrigan, Purdue DE 6-4 259
Analysis: Led country with 26 TFL, he became simply impossible to block, even against double-teams. He's ideal for 3-4 OLB, possible 4-3 DE. Last week: No. 12

13) Von Miller, Texas A&M LB 6-3 243
Analysis: Miller has shown recently that his ability to drop and cover has grown. Good 3-4 pass-rusher, with great edge quickness; sack machine. Last week: No. 15

14) Justin Blackmon *, Oklahoma State WR 6-1 208
Analysis: Wrapping up a breakout season, he has been impossible to keep covered. Good size and speed combo with ability to set up DBs. Last week: No. 13

15) Akeem Ayers *, UCLA OLB 6-4 251
Analysis: His exceptional athleticism makes him so versatile. Ideal every-down 3-4 OLB who can rush and cover. Ayers should test well in Indy. Last week. No. 12

16) Drake Nevis, LSU DT 6-1 289
Analysis: Explosive, up-the-field tackle. Ideal three-technique who plays with great leverage and passion. Solid against run and pass. Last week: No. 16

17) Nate Solder, Colorado OT 6-9 313
Analysis: Physical freak with improved skills. Should dominate in workout phase and could get bump in draft short on elite OTs. Last week: No. 17

18) Anthony Castonzo, Boston College OT 6-7 306
Analysis: Smart, reliable, solid footwork but could add lower-body strength to become better leverage player. Back up after rough stretch. Last week: No. 18

19) Adrian Clayborn, Iowa DE 6-3 282
Analysis: Sacks were down but increased attention was part of that. A guy who batters offensive linemen; has great motor. Last week: No. 20

20) Derek Sherrod, Mississippi State OT 6-6 305
Analysis: A later entry to the Big Board this year. An athlete at OT, ha moves his feet well and has been steady against good players; continues to improve. Last week: No. 21

21) Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin OT 6-7 327
Analysis: Has had fantastic fall, battling a number of likely high draft picks to standstill. Once beaten by speed too often, his footwork has improved. Last week: No. 22

22) Mark Ingram *, Alabama RB 5-10 216
Analysis: Average per rush now tick below last year, but explosive and physical after being dinged early. Solid finisher but top-end speed is in question. Last week: No. 19

23) Jake Locker, Washington QB 6-3 228
Analysis: Skill set is fantastic, but poor year overall. Has done a great deal of his best work versus bad competition. Last week: No. 23

24) Rahim Moore, UCLA S 6-1 196
Analysis: Production down this year after breakout 2009 season, but QBs also stayed away. Good instincts, and he gets solid marks as cover safety. Last week: No. 24

25) Jon Baldwin *, Pittsburgh WR 6-5 225
Analysis: Great physical skills and size. Baldwin has had a rocky season -- games with 1, 3, 2, 3 catches -- but QB issues were part of that. Last week: No. 25
 
Real chance this is the tier we are picking from:


12) Ryan Kerrigan, Purdue DE 6-4 259
Analysis: Led country with 26 TFL, he became simply impossible to block, even against double-teams. He's ideal for 3-4 OLB, possible 4-3 DE. Last week: No. 12

13) Von Miller, Texas A&M LB 6-3 243
Analysis: Miller has shown recently that his ability to drop and cover has grown. Good 3-4 pass-rusher, with great edge quickness; sack machine. Last week: No. 15

14) Justin Blackmon *, Oklahoma State WR 6-1 208
Analysis: Wrapping up a breakout season, he has been impossible to keep covered. Good size and speed combo with ability to set up DBs. Last week: No. 13

15) Akeem Ayers *, UCLA OLB 6-4 251
Analysis: His exceptional athleticism makes him so versatile. Ideal every-down 3-4 OLB who can rush and cover. Ayers should test well in Indy. Last week. No. 12

16) Drake Nevis, LSU DT 6-1 289
Analysis: Explosive, up-the-field tackle. Ideal three-technique who plays with great leverage and passion. Solid against run and pass. Last week: No. 16

17) Nate Solder, Colorado OT 6-9 313
Analysis: Physical freak with improved skills. Should dominate in workout phase and could get bump in draft short on elite OTs. Last week: No. 17

18) Anthony Castonzo, Boston College OT 6-7 306
Analysis: Smart, reliable, solid footwork but could add lower-body strength to become better leverage player. Back up after rough stretch. Last week: No. 18

19) Adrian Clayborn, Iowa DE 6-3 282
Analysis: Sacks were down but increased attention was part of that. A guy who batters offensive linemen; has great motor. Last week: No. 20

20) Derek Sherrod, Mississippi State OT 6-6 305
Analysis: A later entry to the Big Board this year. An athlete at OT, ha moves his feet well and has been steady against good players; continues to improve. Last week: No. 21

21) Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin OT 6-7 327
Analysis: Has had fantastic fall, battling a number of likely high draft picks to standstill. Once beaten by speed too often, his footwork has improved. Last week: No. 22

22) Mark Ingram *, Alabama RB 5-10 216
Analysis: Average per rush now tick below last year, but explosive and physical after being dinged early. Solid finisher but top-end speed is in question. Last week: No. 19

23) Jake Locker, Washington QB 6-3 228
Analysis: Skill set is fantastic, but poor year overall. Has done a great deal of his best work versus bad competition. Last week: No. 23

24) Rahim Moore, UCLA S 6-1 196
Analysis: Production down this year after breakout 2009 season, but QBs also stayed away. Good instincts, and he gets solid marks as cover safety. Last week: No. 24

25) Jon Baldwin *, Pittsburgh WR 6-5 225
Analysis: Great physical skills and size. Baldwin has had a rocky season -- games with 1, 3, 2, 3 catches -- but QB issues were part of that. Last week: No. 25
 
I am betting we pick about 10. Can that Von Miller replace Bradie James? I would love Carimi at RT. Could Rahim Moore finally replace Woody at FS? Those would be my favorites; though if the Boys are tired of waiting for Spencer to produce they might look at Quinn.
 
burmafrd;3741201 said:
I am betting we pick about 10. Can that Von Miller replace Bradie James? I would love Carimi at RT. Could Rahim Moore finally replace Woody at FS? Those would be my favorites; though if the Boys are tired of waiting for Spencer to produce they might look at Quinn.

Von Miller would need to play DeMarcus Ware's position. He's a pass rushing OLB but too small to play the strong side
 
Newton is an intriguing guy but easily has the highest bust potential of anybody listed. Still think the Cowboys end up D Line if they stay where they are, O Line if they trade down.
 
Manwiththeplan;3741239 said:
Von Miller would need to play DeMarcus Ware's position. He's a pass rushing OLB but too small to play the strong side

I get what you are saying but wouldn't be an issue for us since Ware flip flops so much during games. I'm not as big as others on Miller but he could play for us.

Is it a foregone conclusion (on this board) that Spencer needs to be replaced? If so, I'd rather give Victor Butler a chance then spend a top 15 pick on an OLB.
 
Chris in Arizona;3741535 said:
Is it a foregone conclusion (on this board) that Spencer needs to be replaced? If so, I'd rather give Victor Butler a chance then spend a top 15 pick on an OLB.
I would say 20% say "yes", 30% "maybe" and 50% "no".
 
So many 3-4 OLB's in the first round of this draft, insane.

Figures there's wouldn't be top teir OL or safety talent the year we are actually in contention for them of course.

I won't be surprised in next year we see another situation like Berry and Earl Thomas, Iupati, etc. available and we won't be in contention for any of them.

If our best bet is Fairley, we could have gotten something similar taking Jared Odrick last year at a much more reasonable spot.

I love Romo but I am not at all opposed to drafting a QB in the first.
 
I love Romo but I am not at all opposed to drafting a QB in the first

who would pick ?

not Mallett he is just to wild to be good NFL QB IMO

the only other one who worth a first rded would be Luck an he might wait a year just so he doesn't get stuck in Buffalo

but now with Carolina if the bring in Harbaugh - I could see him leaving

Newton no way

I could see us picking

Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada
Height: 6-6. Weight: 215.
Projected 40 Time: 4.68.
Projected Round (2011): 5-7.

Andy Dalton, QB, TCU
Height: 6-3. Weight: 215.
Projected 40 Time: 4.74.
Projected Round (2011): 5-7

Greg McElroy, QB, Alabama
Height: 6-2. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.94.
Projected Round (2011): 6-FA

Mitch Mustain, QB, USC
Height: 6-3. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
Projected Round (2011): FA.
 
UnoDallas;3741901 said:
I love Romo but I am not at all opposed to drafting a QB in the first

who would pick ?

not Mallett he is just to wild to be good NFL QB IMO

the only other one who worth a first rded would be Luck an he might wait a year just so he doesn't get stuck in Buffalo

but now with Carolina if the bring in Harbaugh - I could see him leaving

Newton no way

I could see us picking

Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada
Height: 6-6. Weight: 215.
Projected 40 Time: 4.68.
Projected Round (2011): 5-7.

Andy Dalton, QB, TCU
Height: 6-3. Weight: 215.
Projected 40 Time: 4.74.
Projected Round (2011): 5-7

Greg McElroy, QB, Alabama
Height: 6-2. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.94.
Projected Round (2011): 6-FA

Mitch Mustain, QB, USC
Height: 6-3. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
Projected Round (2011): FA.

IF we're taking a QB that late, might as well stick it out with McGee, seeing as we spent a 4th rounder on him.
 
If we're looking for a pass rushing OLB high in the draft (which I don't think we will be), give me Robert Quinn over Von Miller all day.

Quinn is an athlete with the hips to make the transition.
 
Yes we should replace Spencer. His contract is up after 2011 anyway. Are we going to bring him back long-term for more average play or move on with a real difference maker?

Now would be the best time to get his replacement, with the abundance of pass rushers in the 1st round.
 
TheCount;3741919 said:
IF we're taking a QB that late, might as well stick it out with McGee, seeing as we spent a 4th rounder on him.

an whys that Joe M - Brady drafted late

I don't think McGee is up top the task

give my boy from ARK a chance
 
Chris in Arizona;3741535 said:
I get what you are saying but wouldn't be an issue for us since Ware flip flops so much during games. I'm not as big as others on Miller but he could play for us.

Is it a foregone conclusion (on this board) that Spencer needs to be replaced? If so, I'd rather give Victor Butler a chance then spend a top 15 pick on an OLB.

He flips flops to the weakside when teams use motion, so it's not a good thing
 
UnoDallas;3741985 said:
an whys that Joe M - Brady drafted late

I don't think McGee is up top the task

give my boy from ARK a chance

That's your argument? That Tom Brady exists? :laugh2:

So does Peyton Manning, what's your point?
 
TheCount;3742064 said:
That's your argument? That Tom Brady exists?

So does Peyton Manning, what's your point?

my point being that it does not have to a first round pick
 
UnoDallas;3743913 said:
my point being that it does not have to a first round pick

I didn't say it had to be, which is why I think we should stick it out with McGee, whom we spent a 4th on unless we are truely going after a franchise type guy.
 
TheCount;3743961 said:
I didn't say it had to be, which is why I think we should stick it out with McGee, whom we spent a 4th on unless we are truely going after a franchise type guy.

you may be right
 
I am leaning towards peterson,we cant pass on an elite cb especially with our starters being so inconsistent.
 

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