Kiper Big Board 9/12/13....

[Risen Star]

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* - juniors
**- redshirt sophomores
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Big Board

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/stor...oard-following-week-2-college-football-season

1.Jadeveon Clowney* DE South Carolina
2. Teddy Bridgewater* QB Louisville
3. Louis Nix III* DT Notre Dame
4. Jake Matthews T Texas A&M
5. Taylor Lewan T Michigan

6. Marqise Lee* WR USC
7. Anthony Barr OLB UCLA
8. Cyrus Kouandjio* T Alabama
9. Cameron Erving* T Florida St.
10. Loucheiz Purifoy* CB Florida

11. Brett Hundley** QB UCLA
12. Khalil Mack OLB Buffalo
13. C.J. Mosley OLB Alabama
14. Timmy Jernigan* DT Florida St.
15. Stephon Tuitt* DE Notre Dame

16. Sammy Watkins* WR Clemson
17. Antonio Richardson* T Tennessee
18. De'Anthony Thomas* RB Oregon
19. Ifo Ekpre-Olomu* CB Oregon
20. Aaron Lynch** DE South Florida

21. Anthony Johnson* DT LSU
22. David Yankey G Stanford
23. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix* S Alabama
24. Gabe Jackson G Missippi St.
25. Austin Seferian-Jenkins* TE Washington

 

[Future]

I think I would probably have Sammy Watkins higher...really like that kid, but its hard to argue with anything after just two weeks of the college season.

Shocked to see 4 tackles in the top 10, imagine how crazy last year would have been if Lewan and Matthews decided to enter the draft.

 

[Risen Star]

Mel was on with Skip and Stephen A. today flaring his nostrils over the fact Johnny Manziel doesn't belong on the big board right now. Not even if he went to a top 32.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Mel was on with Skip and Stephen A. today flaring his nostrils over the fact Johnny Manziel doesn't belong on the big board right now. Not even if he went to a top 32.

I think he's right. He's only 20 (December) and he's only a Soph. I don't think he could be drafted anyway. He doesn't belong on the board. However, if he were 21 and eligible, I still wouldn't take him in the 1st round. I wouldn't take him in the 2nd round right now.

 

[Risen Star]

I think he's right. He's only 20 (December) and he's only a Soph. I don't think he could be drafted anyway. He doesn't belong on the board. However, if he were 21 and eligible, I still wouldn't take him in the 1st round. I wouldn't take him in the 2nd round right now.

He's a redshirt sophomore. He's eligible for the draft.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

He's a redshirt sophomore. He's eligible for the draft.

Doesn't matter. You have to be at least 3 years removed from HS. You can red shirt but you would have to have completed your Red Shirt Soph year in order to be eligible. I think that's how it works.

 

[Risen Star]

Doesn't matter. You have to be at least 3 years removed from HS. You can red shirt but you would have to have completed your Red Shirt Soph year in order to be eligible. I think that's how it works.

Yeah. When you're a redshirt sophomore you are 3 years removed. He's eligible for the 2014 draft.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Yeah. When you're a redshirt sophomore you are 3 years removed. He's eligible for the 2014 draft.

My bad. For whatever reason, I saw the 9/13 and didn't put it together. In the next draft, he will be eligible.

 

[DFWJC]

Mel was on with Skip and Stephen A. today flaring his nostrils over the fact Johnny Manziel doesn't belong on the big board right now. Not even if he went to a top 32.

Yeah. I think a lot of people put him in the 2nd to 4th round range right now, but with the potential to move up.

 

[Risen Star]

Yeah. I think a lot of people put him in the 2nd to 4th round range right now, but with the potential to move up.

I wouldn't touch him. Too many issues with his size, arm strength and mental makeup.

 

[dart]

5. Taylor Lewan T Michigan
11. Brett Hundley** QB UCLA
13. C.J. Mosley OLB Alabama
21. Anthony Johnson* DT LSU
23. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix* S Alabama
24. Gabe Jackson G Missippi St
I will take any of theses

 

[Future]

5. Taylor Lewan T Michigan
11. Brett Hundley** QB UCLA
13. C.J. Mosley OLB Alabama
21. Anthony Johnson* DT LSU
23. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix* S Alabama
24. Gabe Jackson G Missippi St
I will take any of theses

Well, I think you can take QB, OLB, S, and G right out of the first round. And if Free plays decent, they definitely aren't going to go guard either.

 

[Risen Star]

Well, I think you can take QB, OLB, S, and G right out of the first round. And if Free plays decent, they definitely aren't going to go guard either.

I didn't realize the Cowboys were so set at G.

One unproven guy with a chronic knee issue and a 36 year old Brian Waters.

We're good.

 

[Rockport]

I didn't realize the Cowboys were so set at G.

One unproven guy with a chronic knee issue and a 36 year old Brian Waters.

We're good.

We need another guard and a tackle somewherein the first 4 rounds.

 

[Risen Star]

We need another guard and a tackle somewherein the first 4 rounds.

Oh, I think the Cowboys need more than one G considering the questions with Leary and the age on Waters. Not that it has to come within the first 4 rounds of the next draft.

It took years to get the OL in such bad shape. It'll take years to fix it.

 

[tantrix1969]

I didn't realize the Cowboys were so set at G.

One unproven guy with a chronic knee issue and a 36 year old Brian Waters.

We're good.

while I agree with you, I could see Jerry saying oline is a strength next year

 

[Future]

I didn't realize the Cowboys were so set at G.

One unproven guy with a chronic knee issue and a 36 year old Brian Waters.

We're good.

I didnt say we are set

I said we aren't going to take one in the first round.

 

[Risen Star]

I didnt say we are set

I said we aren't going to take one in the first round.

I don't know how you can be so sure of that. It looks like a giant need to me. They don't have 1 quality G on the roster they can count on for next year.

 

[Future]

I don't know how you can be so sure of that. It looks like a giant need to me. They don't have 1 quality G on the roster they can count on for next year.

Jerry has taken OL in the first round 2 out of the last 3 years. Im pretty sure he hates doing that. I dont see it happening, especially for a guard, this year.

 

[Risen Star]

Jerry has taken OL in the first round 2 out of the last 3 years. Im pretty sure he hates doing that. I dont see it happening, especially for a guard, this year.

So you're ruling it out because you believe Jerry hates it. But of course if he does hate it, it didn't stop him from using 2 of the last 3 1st round picks on the OL.

I won't pretend to know how he feels about it. I'll just look at it in terms of need and G most definitely should be at the top of that list going into the offseason. Now it's just a question of what's there when we pick.