Kiper/McShay Dueling 2-Rd Mock

[BAT]

Just say no to Taco, not RDE. But I will trump both McShay & Kiper with a 3rd option:

28 - Takk McKinley
60 - Obi Melifonwu

 

[JBell]

Either pair would be good. I like the combo of SS and RDE.

Me too. Think you can get quality CB's in the 3rd or 4th

 

[Aven8]

Kiper gets an A+. I would be totally stoked with that.

 

[DasTex]

Was good with Kiper until I see he had Barnett going 2 picks later after Peppers. If we pass on him, I would be EXTREMELY upset.

 

[Nova]

I really don't like the play of Jordan Willis.

Extremely intriguing measurements, but I don't think those measurables trump how unnatural he looks out on the field of play.

 

[unionjack8]

Prefer peppers and Willis in a big way.....

 

[big dog cowboy]

I just don't know if Peppers is an NFL safety. He played so many positions, especially LB. Not sure how well he can cover. He's more of a box safety.

The exact reason I fear drafting him. If what you posted is true, and I've read the same thing elsewhere, I want no part of Peppers.

 

[xwalker]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/i...-mcshay-dueling-two-round-2017-nfl-mock-draft

28. Dallas Cowboys

Kiper: Jabrill Peppers, S, Michigan

With cornerbacks Brandon Carr and Morris Claiborne and safeties Barry Church and J.J. Wilcox all gone in free agency, Peppers would probably play a hybrid safety role in Rod Marinelli's defense. He's a tremendous athlete (4.46 40, 35½-inch vertical) and the best punt returner in this draft. Dallas could also look at the pass-rushers left on the board -- Taco Charlton makes sense if he's still around.

McShay: Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan

Funny you should mention him, Mel. Charlton fits best as a 4-3 DE who can put his hand in the dirt and get after the passer. He isn't an elite player, but he played his best against top competition in 2016, compiling 5.5 sacks against Penn State, Wisconsin, Ohio State and Florida State.



60. Dallas Cowboys

Kiper: Jordan Willis, DE/OLB, Kansas State One of the most productive defenders in the country (21 sacks over the past two seasons), Willis put up eye-catching numbers at the combine -- his 4.53 40-yard dash and 39-inch vertical were second among defensive linemen. You don't often see that combination of production and athleticism. A pass-rusher is just what Dallas needs.

McShay: Josh Jones, S, N.C. State

After passing on a safety in Round 1, the Cowboys could target one here. Jones gets downhill in a hurry in run support, using his 220-pound frame and 4.41 speed to deliver a punishing blow. He has the athleticism and versatility to play in the box and in center field.

I find it funny how much emphasis people put on return ability for 1st round picks. Most (maybe all) Head Coaches goal is to find non-starters to be the returners. When they do use starters, they are always trying to find a way not to have to use that starter as a returner long term.

 

[xwalker]

They're BOTH Strong Safeties. Jones is 6-1, 220. I just don't know if Peppers is an NFL safety. He played so many positions, especially LB. Not sure how well he can cover. He's more of a box safety.

Peppers is a risky pick. He might be great, but the things that made him a great college player will not be his #1 requirement in the NFL. It's a passing league now and he'll need to be excellent in coverage to justify a 1st round pick.

 

[pupulehaole]

I want nothing to do with peppers....

 

[gimmesix]

I really don't like the play of Jordan Willis.

Extremely intriguing measurements, but I don't think those measurables trump how unnatural he looks out on the field of play.

He has the production too, though. I think he's going to end up climbing boards into the first round.

 

[tyke1doe]

Peppers is a better returner than Adoree Jackson?

 

[RamziD]

Gimme Kiper's and I will be very happy

 

[gmoney112]

I really don't like the play of Jordan Willis.

Extremely intriguing measurements, but I don't think those measurables trump how unnatural he looks out on the field of play.

He doesn't play with a gameplan, and his footwork turning the edge needs work.

When he does set up the OL, he'll win a lot. He could have had like 10 more tackles for loss/sacks with better technique.

If what they say about his intangibles, work ethic, etc. are true, he's going to be a pretty good player when he's coached up. He's not my first choice but in the 2nd round I wouldn't mind him at all.

 

[stilltheguru88]

Peppers is a better returner than Adoree Jackson?

Negative

 

[Pants]

not convinced that if one of the big 3 TE's is there, that they don't go that route...

 

[Alexander]

not convinced that if one of the big 3 TE's is there, that they don't go that route...

If the third is Evan Engram I certainly hope not.

If they want that, just draft a WR. You will be saving yourself some time and heartache.

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

I think both second rounders in this scenario will be better than the first rounders.

 

[Nova]

He doesn't play with a gameplan, and his footwork turning the edge needs work.

When he does set up the OL, he'll win a lot. He could have had like 10 more tackles for loss/sacks with better technique.

If what they say about his intangibles, work ethic, etc. are true, he's going to be a pretty good player when he's coached up. He's not my first choice but in the 2nd round I wouldn't mind him at all.

I hadn't heard anything about his work ethic. good to know

 

[Nova]

Jabril Peppers would make the draft for me. He is exactly what this defense needs. He's a heady, natural player with tremendous instincts and the eye popping athleticism to back them up. He could play multiple position on the D as well as being a return man and H-back. Do it!

I like you optimisim, but my concern is that the Cowboys coaching staff will jack around too much with his position because of his utility. And ultimately he would end up being good at everything and great at nothing.