Kiper/McShay Dueling 2-Rd Mock

[lwehlers]

i also take kipers draft. jones would not be a bad safety in round two. I still believe that the cowboys will trade out of the first round to get more picks in the middle rounds since this draft is good with middle round players. we need two more picks for the middle rounds to help build this defense.

 

[Angus12]

Kiper taking Peppers when Derek Barnett is still on the board is horrible.

If we take Peppers in the first, we'll regret it. There are about 6-7 guys at safety I'd rather have than him.

 

[texbumthelife]

I like you optimisim, but my concern is that the Cowboys coaching staff will jack around too much with his position because of his utility. And ultimately he would end up being good at everything and great at nothing.

I totally get this. This is the reason that even though I think McCafferey is one of the top 10 talents in this draft, we'd never get full use of him.

I think they would start him out similar to how they started Byron Jones out. Let him play all over the place while they figure out what is the best position for him. There is absolutely not reason why he can't do what Barry Church has done for us and probably at an even higher level.

 

[texbumthelife]

Ugh. When balls are flying over his head people are going to be shocked but I won't

I'm not even sure what you're trying to insinuate. He's 6'1" so it's not like he's short. He won't be playing a deep cover safety (that's Byron Jones), so he won't be worried about getting beat deep. Really, your comment makes zero sense.

 

[btcutter]

Jabril Peppers would make the draft for me. He is exactly what this defense needs. He's a heady, natural player with tremendous instincts and the eye popping athleticism to back them up. He could play multiple position on the D as well as being a return man and H-back. Do it!

Peppers will also immediately upgrade our special teams play.

He athletic enough to play SS without a problem.

I rather have Harris over Taco.

 

[texbumthelife]

Peppers will also immediately upgrade our special teams play.

He athletic enough to play SS without a problem.

I rather have Harris over Taco.

I think people are still trying to plug Peppers into that single high mold for some reason. That is where Jones will play as long as he is a Cowboy. I'd love to see us stick with the single high look and use Peppers in that hybrib SS/LB role.

 

[btcutter]

The exact reason I fear drafting him. If what you posted is true, and I've read the same thing elsewhere, I want no part of Peppers.

If you watch Pepper's breakdown and his responsibility on one of the videos posted on Cowboyzone you will realize he's simply doing what the coaches want him to do which is outside containment at all cost.

 

[btcutter]

I think people are still trying to plug Peppers into that single high mold for some reason. That is where Jones will play as long as he is a Cowboy. I'd love to see us stick with the single high look and use Peppers in that hybrib SS/LB role.

People are scared because they don't realize how Michigan is using him in their scheme and they don't see enough "traditional" role of SS or FS on type.

 

[texbumthelife]

People are scared because they don't realize how Michigan is using him in their scheme and they don't see enough "traditional" role of SS or FS on type.

And they forget that Byron Jones essentially didn't have a position either.

 

[stilltheguru88]

I'm not even sure what you're trying to insinuate. He's 6'1" so it's not like he's short. He won't be playing a deep cover safety (that's Byron Jones), so he won't be worried about getting beat deep. Really, your comment makes zero sense.

6'1 huh?

 

[Angus12]

He's 6'1" so it's not like he's short. .

No, he's not.

 

[ksg811]

Peppers was listed at 6'1 at UM. He measured in at 5'11 at the combine.

 

[Doomsdayblitz]

Peppers is a risky pick. He might be great, but the things that made him a great college player will not be his #1 requirement in the NFL. It's a passing league now and he'll need to be excellent in coverage to justify a 1st round pick.

Agreed. There's just too many questions surrounding him. He's a jack of all trades, but he never proved to be a master of one. It's not his fault, & someone will take a chance on him due to his athleticism & toughness. I have him ranked 4th-6th range as an NFL safety.

 

[xwalker]

Agreed. There's just too many questions surrounding him. He's a jack of all trades, but he never proved to be a master of one. It's not his fault, & someone will take a chance on him due to his athleticism & toughness. I have him ranked 4th-6th range as an NFL safety.

He would be a fun player to have on the team to see what he could do, but I wouldn't use a first round pick to find out.

 

[texbumthelife]

This is absolute insanity. This guy is a football player. He's instinctual as hell. He makes splash plays consistently. He's an elite athlete. This is the kind of guy you draft and tell him to just go play ball.

Lots of over thinking it here. Because he's 5'11"? Because he played at a high level at several positions instead of just one?

Ridiculousness.

 

[Gaede]

This is absolute insanity. This guy is a football player. He's instinctual as hell. He makes splash plays consistently. He's an elite athlete. This is the kind of guy you draft and tell him to just go play ball.

Lots of over thinking it here. Because he's 5'11"? Because he played at a high level at several positions instead of just one?

Ridiculousness.

I'm not Peppers biggest fan but yeah, I agree.

We talk about projections a lot. Why is it so hard to project Peppers at one position when he's a) a leader b) an athlete and c) a football player?

I really don't think we'll have a shot at him, so it's a moot point really

 

[NextGenBoys]

I don't want either.

And both of these guys are always wrong on Dallas mocks.

 

[lqmac1]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/i...-mcshay-dueling-two-round-2017-nfl-mock-draft

28. Dallas Cowboys

Kiper: Jabrill Peppers, S, Michigan

With cornerbacks Brandon Carr and Morris Claiborne and safeties Barry Church and J.J. Wilcox all gone in free agency, Peppers would probably play a hybrid safety role in Rod Marinelli's defense. He's a tremendous athlete (4.46 40, 35½-inch vertical) and the best punt returner in this draft. Dallas could also look at the pass-rushers left on the board -- Taco Charlton makes sense if he's still around.

McShay: Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan

Funny you should mention him, Mel. Charlton fits best as a 4-3 DE who can put his hand in the dirt and get after the passer. He isn't an elite player, but he played his best against top competition in 2016, compiling 5.5 sacks against Penn State, Wisconsin, Ohio State and Florida State.



60. Dallas Cowboys

Kiper: Jordan Willis, DE/OLB, Kansas State One of the most productive defenders in the country (21 sacks over the past two seasons), Willis put up eye-catching numbers at the combine -- his 4.53 40-yard dash and 39-inch vertical were second among defensive linemen. You don't often see that combination of production and athleticism. A pass-rusher is just what Dallas needs.

McShay: Josh Jones, S, N.C. State

After passing on a safety in Round 1, the Cowboys could target one here. Jones gets downhill in a hurry in run support, using his 220-pound frame and 4.41 speed to deliver a punishing blow. He has the athleticism and versatility to play in the box and in center field.

Josh Jones isn't a good safety at all. One of the most overrated players in this year's draft

 

[Alexander]

Josh Jones isn't a good safety at all. One of the most overrated players in this year's draft

Between Jones, Melifonwu and Justin Evans being held up to the stars, it is getting strange. I think Marcus Maye is just as good or better yet you don't read the same about him.

 

[ksg811]

Between Jones, Melifonwu and Justin Evans being held up to the stars, it is getting strange. I think Marcus Maye is just as good or better yet you don't read the same about him.

I'd add Marcus Williams to the underappreciated list as well.