Kiper on cornerbacks

[Chocolate Lab]

Last night while flipping around the radio trying to find anything but college basketball, I caught Kiper on Gamenight talking about the lower-first-round corners. In this case, that means excluding McKelvin and DRC. Here was his rundown:

Talib: The most talented of all of them. That's right, more talented than Jenkins or Justin King. Obviously, I was surprised at this given that Talib has had some questions about his athleticsm. Says Talib's negative is his maturity. Kiper didn't explain that comment... I assume he means how cocky the guy is.

Jenkins: Says that he is scary. Some games he looks great, then other games he looks very shaky. Talented, but the lack of consistency is very concerning. Kiper almost sounded more down on him than on any of the others.

Flowers: Sounded like Kiper still liked him. Said he played a lot faster than he timed and was by far the most physical of the bunch. Said if you want a run-support corner, this is the guy. Compared him to Antoine Winfield, which got my attention because of course Winfield was drafted by Buffalo when Wade was the coach there.

King: Very talented, almost as talented as Talib (again, I don't get that, as King is MUCH faster) but needs so much coaching and technique work that you're not sure what the final result will be. A real boom-or-bust type player.

Comments?

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Speed isn't everything when talking about a CB... I like Talib, DRC and Mike Jenkins.

 

[Big Dakota]

FFToolbox Update (3/19/08): At Kansas' Pro Day on the 11th, Talib further cemented his status as a first-round prospect and strengthened his case to be one of the first couple taken after an excellent workout in front of the scouts. Talib ran times of 4.4 and 4.45 on the AstroTurf and according to Russ Lande on SportingNews.com, the first-team All-American was extremely impressive in his workout; saying that Talib wowed everyone with tremendous quickness, agility, and explosiveness when changing directions, that he showed great footwork and hip movements, and also that he showed good hands catching the ball. Lande added that one scout told him that it was one of the best cornerback workouts he'd seen in years.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Talib is a hella player. I've watched him all along. But there is just something about his game that doesn't do it for me. And his attitude, Oh man.....

 

[Kangaroo]

Hip turn is everything for a cb look at all the really great or good corners they are smooth in the hips

 

[CATCH17]

Talib is a hella player. I've watched him all along. But there is just something about his game that doesn't do it for me. And his attitude, Oh man.....

Thats how I felt about Derrick Straight when he came out as well.

I don't even know how much better of a prospect Talib is over Reggie Smith.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I hate to say it but I've said since last year that I hope Dallas would draft Talib...

 

[Woods]

I still think that Cason may be the "safest" pick of that 2nd lot of CBs that CL listed.

Cason has been very productive against TOP competition, appears to be a team guy, no off the field problems, good tackler, can also play STs, had an excellent Combine workout (including broad jump, vertical, etc.), very good instincts for the position, and has the hands to make a play on the ball.

What am I missing here?

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Talib? When I watched this guy......not impressed...but, maybe he was having a bad day at the office.

 

[QT]

Talib? When I watched this guy......not impressed...but, maybe he was having a bad day at the office.

I am with you CC. I was watching ESPN and they were showing how Talib gave up on plays. Not impressed by this guy at all.

 

[Stash]

I still think that Cason may be the "safest" pick of that 2nd lot of CBs that CL listed.

Cason has been very productive against TOP competition, appears to be a team guy, no off the field problems, good tackler, can also play STs, had an excellent Combine workout (including broad jump, vertical, etc.), very good instincts for the position, and has the hands to make a play on the ball.

What am I missing here?

I wouldn't say you're 'missing' anything.

I'm right there with ya on Cason.

 

[jterrell]

I like Talib a lot.

Teams generally avoided him because he was scary as he attacks the ball like a WR.

He is big enough and fast enough to cover guys and he turns and runs well. He is wayyy overconfident at times which is probably his biggest negative.

 

[Bigdog]

I still think that Cason may be the "safest" pick of that 2nd lot of CBs that CL listed.

Cason has been very productive against TOP competition, appears to be a team guy, no off the field problems, good tackler, can also play STs, had an excellent Combine workout (including broad jump, vertical, etc.), very good instincts for the position, and has the hands to make a play on the ball.

What am I missing here?

I am with you on this. Last year he was higly ranked, maybe it his overall speed but a 4.47 40 is not to shabby if you ask me.

 

[khiladi]

Last night while flipping around the radio trying to find anything but college basketball, I caught Kiper on Gamenight talking about the lower-first-round corners. In this case, that means excluding McKelvin and DRC. Here was his rundown:

It is amazing how DRC just lead-frogged into the top CB position from a smaller school. He must be that dominant.

 

[tyke1doe]

I wouldn't say you're 'missing' anything.

I'm right there with ya on Cason.

Me three.

 

[tyke1doe]

It is amazing how DRC just lead-frogged into the top CB position from a smaller school. He must be that dominant.

So did DeMarcus Ware.

If you have the talent, teams figure they can coach you.

And being the cousin of Antonio Cromartie doesn't hurt either.

 

[DCBoysfan]

From what I have seen of Talib he is a got that is not as fast as other corners but in the games I have seen him in last year about 3 he has made plays.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Last night while flipping around the radio trying to find anything but college basketball, I caught Kiper on Gamenight talking about the lower-first-round corners. In this case, that means excluding McKelvin and DRC. Here was his rundown:

Talib: The most talented of all of them. That's right, more talented than Jenkins or Justin King. Obviously, I was surprised at this given that Talib has had some questions about his athleticsm. Says Talib's negative is his maturity. Kiper didn't explain that comment... I assume he means how cocky the guy is.

Jenkins: Says that he is scary. Some games he looks great, then other games he looks very shaky. Talented, but the lack of consistency is very concerning. Kiper almost sounded more down on him than on any of the others.

Flowers: Sounded like Kiper still liked him. Said he played a lot faster than he timed and was by far the most physical of the bunch. Said if you want a run-support corner, this is the guy. Compared him to Antoine Winfield, which got my attention because of course Winfield was drafted by Buffalo when Wade was the coach there.

King: Very talented, almost as talented as Talib (again, I don't get that, as King is MUCH faster) but needs so much coaching and technique work that you're not sure what the final result will be. A real boom-or-bust type player.

Comments?

King has poor technique which often gives him problems and what's worse is that it appears that his confidence suffers as a result. To me, that is a definite warning sign...STAY AWAY.

I can understand the other comments, though I don't take Flowers until late in the second at the very least.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Hip turn is everything for a cb look at all the really great or good corners they are smooth in the hips

It's All in the Hips, It's All in the Hips

 

[J-DOG]

It is amazing how DRC just lead-frogged into the top CB position from a smaller school. He must be that dominant.

He stood out at Senior Bowl week and in the game.
He is extremely fast.
He is bigger than most cb's.
He stood out at the combine.
DRC will be the first cb taken.
May be a top ten pick.