Kipers Mock draft 4.0- 2 rounds- All Picks!

Szczepanik

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Let me tell you what I DO LOVE about this draft.

The eagles picking Kelvin Benjamin. I would fist pump like the music won't stop if that happens. Get rid of Desean and pickup Kelvin who has motivational problems.

Yessssss I like it. Even though it won't happen, the thought of that horrible first round choice would make my day better.
 

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I am never a fan of Kiper's drafts. Not to be nit picky here but come on Mel. I don't see us passing on Barr and grabbing S in the 2nd if Ward is gone.

I'm far more interested in what he thinks of the player rather than where the player will end up.
 

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I think Barr is a huge risk unless you want to actually play him at OLB. Everything I've read is that while he makes a lot of plays, he plays soft. He's not a hitter, but wraps and drags guys to the ground. He was not an impact player this past year, and I just don't see him having the type of game to transition to DE with his hand on the ground, taking on an OT every play at 250 lbs without a mean streak.

I don't mind Mel's selections because I think they were predicated on the fact that players who would be better fits on defense were already off the board and Jernigan is no longer viewed as worthy of that high a pick by us. The draft could easily fall this way, in which case we need to take the best players available (OT in first) or try to trade down into the proper slots for the DT's and DE's. Facts are that we may just have to find more defensive linemen in the middle rounds unless we drop into the range for Rasheed Hagemen or the second/third tier DE's.
The OTs are the same size regardless of 3-4 or 4-3. Ware only dropped into coverage 7% of his snaps at 3-4 OLB.

Barr could be a nickel pass rush specialist as a rookie. They could play him at SLB in the base and DE in the nickel.
 

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Wouldn't Dallas be better off with Calvin Pryor and Bitonio in this scenario? Is there a reason that Pryor is not being considered? I think some teams likely have him rated higher than Ha Ha. I'm still hoping for a trade down with Cleveland for their 1 and 2 with Cleveland making the move up for a QB.

Exactly! If he has us going S/OT in the first 2 rounds, at least get the better combo.

Pryor + Bitonio > Bucannon + Martin
 

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Donald/Attaochu/Ward/Dozier
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Martin/Critchon/Quarles/Chris Jones
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Barr/Van Noy/Easley/JaWuan James
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Tuitt/Jernagin/Telvin Smith/Billy Turner

Any of those 1-4 combinations I would be ecstatic with.
 

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I think Barr is a huge risk unless you want to actually play him at OLB. Everything I've read is that while he makes a lot of plays, he plays soft. He's not a hitter, but wraps and drags guys to the ground. He was not an impact player this past year, and I just don't see him having the type of game to transition to DE with his hand on the ground, taking on an OT every play at 250 lbs without a mean streak.

I don't mind Mel's selections because I think they were predicated on the fact that players who would be better fits on defense were already off the board and Jernigan is no longer viewed as worthy of that high a pick by us. The draft could easily fall this way, in which case we need to take the best players available (OT in first) or try to trade down into the proper slots for the DT's and DE's. Facts are that we may just have to find more defensive linemen in the middle rounds unless we drop into the range for Rasheed Hagemen or the second/third tier DE's.

Looks like the indecision on where to play Barr has him dropping. I'd have a difficult time passing him over at 16. If we're fortunate and Jernigan drops to the 40 range, I'd start working the phones to see if a sensible trade could be reached.
 

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I absolutely hate this draft for us... I'd lose my **** if we did this... so it will probably happen! LOL
 

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Kiper is kind of dumb, huh? I don't get what the networks see in him at all.
 

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People get too caught up in who gets mocked to who. Kiper doesn't like doing mocks, he used to talk about it all the time. He does them because they ask him to, and they ask him to because people like to read and argue over them.

Instead of focusing on who he mocked to who, I focus more on who has he has in what zones of the draft.

  • For example, he has Morgan Moses going in the late first while most people think he's a 2nd round guy, if not later.
  • He's got Jernigan and Nix as 2nd round picks, while Chris Borland (who is rated as a 3rd rounder on some boards, primarily due to his size), goes early in the 2nd.
  • He's also predicting a bit of a run on WR's in the 2nd half of the 2nd round, which might be a bit of a bummer if you want to wait it out till the 3rd or later to take one. Josh Huff in the 2nd is far earlier than I've seen him most places, but on The Draft Show, they had been talking that guy up since the Senior Bowl before dropping off on mentioning him lately.
  • He's also got Bridgewater as a 2nd round pick, which would be interesting if the Texans go with Clowney and still get a potential franchise QB in the 2nd.
 

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Donald/Attaochu/Ward/Dozier
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Martin/Critchon/Quarles/Chris Jones
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Barr/Van Noy/Easley/JaWuan James
or
Tuitt/Jernagin/Telvin Smith/Billy Turner

Any of those 1-4 combinations I would be ecstatic with.

Jernagin/Attaochu/Trai Turner fixed for you I kiid
 

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Jadeveon Clowney
Houston Texans (2-14)

Analysis: I'm certain the debate about which player to take still exists, and whether the pick could be moved. I still think this could be a quarterback. But I believe that while more than one "safe" pick exists in this draft, it's hard to play it safer in terms of upside than selecting a generational physical talent, a guy who has exceptional physical skills and the ability to bring immediate impact and create consistent matchup problems up front as teams deal with the reality of how to block both Clowney and J.J. Watt. The questions on Clowney still aren't enough to diminish the potential impact. He's the top prospect in a draft full of very good ones, and I think Houston will feel the same.


2
Greg Robinson
Analysis: If I'm making the pick, I'm willing to consider Sammy Watkins here based on need, and would also certainly consider the option of moving down a few spots if the offer is rich enough. But Robinson is one of the better offensive linemen to enter the draft in years, with the upside of an All-Pro at left tackle, capable of neutralizing the best pass-rushers and absolutely mauling defenders in the run game. St. Louis can select him knowing an impact wide receiver is still going to be available at No. 13 (and even beyond that given the depth at the position).

3
Sammy Watkins
Jacksonville Jaguars (4-12)
Analysis: The temptation to take a quarterback here may exist, but I look at the trajectory of this organization, both in performance and in personnel development, and I believe the Jaguars will look to take the best player available here, and in Watkins, they also add a dynamic talent at a position of need. Given the uncertain future of Justin Blackmon, the top two wide receivers on the roster are Cecil Shorts and Ace Sanders. Neither has the upside of Watkins, who will make the QB -- whoever that ends up being -- better.


4
Johnny Manziel
Cleveland Browns (4-12)

Analysis: Manziel is not my top-rated QB, but he is the QB I believe (right now) is likeliest to go this high, as I believe a team like Cleveland, with a number of draft assets and a QB on the roster it feels can create a bridge to a young starter, is in a good scenario to take a chance on Manziel's ceiling. The Browns owning the No. 26 pick as well as an early second-rounder gives them a chance to take a player like Watkins here if available and consider a QB later, but this is how I see it as of right now.

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Khalil Mack
Oakland Raiders (4-12)

Analysis: Oakland's move to add Matt Schaub puts the Raiders back in position to take the best player available as opposed to making a slight reach at quarterback. Mack gives the Raiders a needed pass-rusher, even though they've already spent some money on the position in free agency, adding Lamarr Woodley and Justin Tuck. Mack would also provide them with another good building-block player on defense, along with fellow linebacker Sio Moore. I also think the Raiders should consider moving down and collecting additional pick assets.

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Taylor Lewan
Atlanta Falcons (4-12)

Analysis: I consider tackle a big need for Atlanta, a team that last year balanced an inability to consistently protect Matt Ryan with a consistent inability to open holes for anybody Ryan handed the ball off to. While Robinson and Jake Matthews are both very good players and should be at the next level, there's a case to be made that Lewan is the most ready tackle for NFL competition, with four good years under his belt. I think he could start at right or left tackle in Week 1.


7
Mike Evans
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (4-12)

Analysis: The Bucs brought in a new QB and addressed some needs on defense in free agency, but I still see wide receiver as a pretty significant need, with Vincent Jackson 31 and entering what could be his final season in Tampa, and no depth behind him. And if you just want to be able to say you're drafting the best player available on the board at this slot, if you take Evans, you can do that too. Evans makes up for a lack of short-area burst (and thus the ability to separate underneath) by dominating at the catch point, particularly up high. The combination of him and Jackson will be a matchup nightmare, particularly in the red zone.

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Blake Bortles
Minnesota Vikings (5-10-1)

Analysis: The combination of Matt Cassel and Christian Ponder will provide a bridge to Bortles, a player I believe would benefit from not starting early as he develops a familiarity with an offense that requires more downfield reads. I don't have Bortles rated as high as I do Bridgewater, but again, this is a projection of where players will be chosen, not my prospect rankings. What I will say is that I do believe Bortles has a high ceiling because he's a pretty special athlete with some really good instincts for the position; his pocket movement in particular is really impressive. When you consider his development trajectory, there's a lot to be excited about.

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Jake Matthews
Buffalo Bills (6-10)

Analysis: I just really like this fit both in scheme and need, and Matthews is the best player left on the board at this point anyway. Despite my early belief that Cordy Glenn would be better on the right side, he's been a good player at left tackle, which means Matthews likely comes in as the needed solution on the right side. The transition from left tackle to right and vice versa tends to get tossed about as something that's no big deal, but it can be a tough one for players, which makes Matthews that much more valuable, because he's demonstrated an ability to, frankly, dominate on either side.

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Ha Ha Clinton-Dix
Detroit Lions (7-9)

Analysis: The addition of James Ihedigbo in free agency doesn't diminish Detroit's need for more help at safety. Getting the top free safety in the draft, a guy who will distinguish himself with his ability to cover with great range, fills a pretty big personnel void for Detroit, and this isn't much of a leap in terms of where Clinton-Dix's name is stacked on most draft boards. I do think Detroit could consider a corner here, I just see Clinton-Dix as a better player and a likelier early impact maker for a team that should feel like it can be in the playoff picture if it can be better in coverage. The depth at CB in this draft means the Lions can add one later.

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Justin Gilbert
Tennessee Titans (7-9)


12
Eric Ebron
New York Giants (7-9)


13
Darqueze Dennard
St. Louis Rams (7-9)




14
Aaron Donald
Chicago Bears (8-8)



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Odell Beckham Jr.
Pittsburgh Steelers (8-8)


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Zack Martin
Dallas Cowboys (8-8)

COLLEGE: Notre Dame
HT: 6-4
WT: 308
POS: OT
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Analysis: Dallas fans might find this quizzical given the need along the defensive line, but consider what's available: Donald is out of the picture, I think Dallas should see this slot as too rich for a player like Anthony Barr, who is a questionable system fit anyway, and the top safety is also off the board. Martin makes sense as a player who can shore up the right tackle position, which is a problem area. I also think this is a place where the Cowboys could look to move if they don't see the value here at those bigger need positions. It's what they did last year.


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Calvin Pryor
Baltimore Ravens (8-8)
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18
Brandin Cooks
New York Jets (8-8)


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C.J. Mosley
Miami Dolphins (8-8)




20
Derek Carr
Arizona Cardinals (10-6)




21
Ryan Shazier
Green Bay Packers (8-7-1)




22
Kelvin Benjamin
Philadelphia Eagles (10-6)




23
Marqise Lee
Kansas City Chiefs (11-5)




24
Bradley Roby
Cincinnati Bengals (11-5)




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Anthony Barr
San Diego Chargers (9-7)





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Kyle Fuller
Cleveland Browns (4-12)




27
Cody Latimer
New Orleans Saints (11-5)

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Morgan Moses
Carolina Panthers (12-4)

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Ra'Shede Hageman
New England Patriots (12-4)




30
Jordan Matthews
San Francisco 49ers (12-4)




31
Jason Verrett
Denver Broncos (13-3)




32
Stephon Tuitt
Seattle Seahawks (13-3)




Round 2

33. Houston Texans | *Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville

34. Washington Commanders | Chris Borland, ILB, Wisconsin
35. Cleveland Browns | *Davante Adams, WR, Fresno St.
36. Oakland Raiders | *Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida St.
37. Atlanta Falcons | Dee Ford, DE/OLB, Auburn
38. Tampa Bay Buccaneers | Gabe Jackson, OG, Mississippi St.
39. Jacksonville Jaguars | Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois
40. Minnesota Vikings | Kyle Van Noy, LB, BYU
41. Buffalo Bills | *Demarcus Lawrence, DE, Boise St.
42. Tennessee Titans | Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU
43. New York Giants | *Xavier Su'a-Filo, OG, UCLA
44. St. Louis Rams | Jimmie Ward, S, No. Illinois
45. Detroit Lions | Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB, Nebraska
46. Pittsburgh Steelers | *Louis Nix III, DT, Notre Dame



47. Dallas Cowboys | Deone Bucannon, S, Washington St.
The Cowboys' current depth chart has J.J. Wilcox and Barry Church as starters at safety, and the experienced Bucannon, one of the biggest hitters in the draft, is a player who can get on the field early.


48. Baltimore Ravens | *Bruce Ellington, WR, South Carolina
49. New York Jets | *Austin Seferian-Jenkins
50. Miami Dolphins | Joel Bitonio, OL, Nevada
51. Chicago Bears | Lamarcus Joyner, CB, Florida St.
52. Arizona Cardinals | Jeremiah Attaochu, OLB, Georgia Tech
53. Green Bay Packers | *Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech
54. Philadelphia Eagles | Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood
55. Cincinnati Bengals | *Cyrus Kouandjio, OT, Alabama
56. San Francisco 49ers (from KC) | Phillip Gaines, CB, Rice
57. San Diego Chargers | *Donte Moncrief, WR, Mississippi
58. New Orleans Saints | Keith McGill, CB, Utah
59. Indianapolis Colts | *Jarvis Landry, WR, LSU
60. Carolina Panthers | Josh Huff, WR, Oregon
61. San Francisco 49ers | *Marcus Martin, C, USC
62. New England Patriots | Carlos Hyde, RB, Ohio St.
63. Denver Broncos | *David Yankey, OG, Stanford
64. Seattle Seahawks | Ja'Wuan James, OT, Tennessee

Thanks for the post. If you get other rounds by Kiper go ahead and post them, love to hear his option.
 

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I think Barr is a huge risk unless you want to actually play him at OLB. Everything I've read is that while he makes a lot of plays, he plays soft. He's not a hitter, but wraps and drags guys to the ground.

This is my biggest concern with Barr as well. He has plenty of athleticism, for sure... but Dallas could use some guys who have some toughness to them. A bit of the blue collar.

I don't want anything soft or finesse for the Dallas defense. A junkyard dog attitude is what they need. It is why I absolutely love Mack and am lukewarm on Barr.

I will say this though: If we do draft Barr, then he will be with the best DL coach he could possibly have in Marinelli. If Marinelli wants him, then I'm all for it.
 

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hmm....I didn't look, who'd he take for them? not impressed with who he took for them

Yeah, I didn't check either. He really is a die hard Raven fan who is from Baltimore though.
 

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If anybody has the lists Kiper does post them up here, would love to see them.:p
 

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Just checking to see if anyone got Kipers full draft and all ratings..
 
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