Kirk Cousins named Commanders starter

[Manwiththeplan]

You can try to take the sting out of it by comparing it to the Williams trade if you want but Roy didn't bring the team down with him, he just didn't produce as expected. Those wounds are well healed and are in the past, unfortunately for skins fans it will be years until they recover from Bob.

psst....that's not the Roy Williams trade

 

[SkinsHokieFan]

You can try to take the sting out of it by comparing it to the Williams trade if you want but Roy didn't bring the team down with him, he just didn't produce as expected. Those wounds are well healed and are in the past, unfortunately for skins fans it will be years until they recover from Bob.

I was comparing it to the Galloway trade. I forgot about the Williams trade.

The price has been paid and is a sunk cost. The cap penalty is gone. The team has full resources going forward, which thankfully are in the hands of someone capable in McCloughan.

It'll probably be a 3-4 year process, but it isn't as if the team doesn't have the picks/cap space moving forward, which crippled moves 2012-2014

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Thats life.

Sometimes you trade 2 first round picks for a WR and watch your team go 5-11 three years in a row after the trade.

Sometimes you trade 3 firsts and a 2nd for a QB, win a division, then go right back into the tank that you were in before.

The longer you try and make a bad move work, the worse off you are. Cut the losses, move on, and let the media get back to arguing about the team name (which I predict will come back once the Griffin circus leaves town)

Yea, sometimes you stub your toe

Sometimes, you cut your foot clean off

 

[SkinsHokieFan]

Yea, sometimes you stub your toe

Sometimes, you cut your foot clean off

Those 2 first round picks for Galloway were a disaster (especially for a 1 trick pony WR). I get why Jerry did it at the time though (one last run with Troy)

In the 5 seasons after the Galloway trade the Cowboys were 5-11, 5-11, 5-11, 10-6, 6-10.

The Commanders post RG3 trade, 10-6 (division title), 3-13, 4-12. Probably looking at 2-14 this year before things start to ramp up with another GMSM draft class and new coaching staff.

Trades that don't work involving multiple first round picks take a half decade to climb out of. When they do work, you get Eli and the Giants.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Those 2 first round picks for Galloway were a disaster (especially for a 1 trick pony WR). I get why Jerry did it at the time though (one last run with Troy)

In the 5 seasons after the Galloway trade the Cowboys were 5-11, 5-11, 5-11, 10-6, 6-10.

The Commanders post RG3 trade, 10-6 (division title), 3-13, 4-12. Probably looking at 2-14 this year before things start to ramp up with another GMSM draft class and new coaching staff.

Trades that don't work involving multiple first round picks take a half decade to climb out of. When they do work, you get Eli and the Giants.

again, nice try. we surrendered the #20 pick in 2000 + the #8 pick in 2001. typically those two picks in the same draft, will not get you the #2 pick, which you guys gave up in 2014. So even if you all got to keep your #6 and #37 overall pick in 2012 as well as your #22 pick in 2013, this trade was worse. can't compare 4 potential starters to 2.

 

[viman96]

Did that dog crap of a site, extremeskins, melt down yet?

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

That is one hell of a concession. Might as well walk up to Danny and kick him in the nads then ask how that felt.

I would volunteer to give him that kick

 

[SkinsHokieFan]

again, nice try. we surrendered the #20 pick in 2000 + the #8 pick in 2001. typically those two picks in the same draft, will not get you the #2 pick, which you guys gave up in 2014. So even if you all got to keep your #6 and #37 overall pick in 2012 as well as your #22 pick in 2013, this trade was worse. can't compare 4 potential starters to 2.

Both trades were major disasters. The Cowboys gave up 2 first round picks for a WR and proceeded to go 5-11, 5-11, 5-11 in the 3 years after. That is an epic disaster after a trade.

The Commanders gave up a 6+24+2 to move up, plus whatever the 2nd round pick was. Had a huge impact on the team the last 2 years, which were both disaster seasons.

Luckily the bill is paid and the Commanders have full resources going forward. Cut the losses and move on and let GMSM do his thing. I am not worried on looking back now.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Both trades were major disasters. The Cowboys gave up 2 first round picks for a WR and proceeded to go 5-11, 5-11, 5-11 in the 3 years after. That is an epic disaster after a trade.

Whether we kept the pick or not, we were heading towards that road. Maybe we go 6-10 or 7-9 after 2001 because again, the #8 pick could have yielded us a difference maker,but in 2000, the was no one on the board that made us better in that season. Even Shaun Alexander does not make Dallas better in 2000, so while you try and make it seem like a 1:1 correlation, that because we gave up 2 #1 we went 5-11 for 3 years, the truth is even if Galloway was an all pro WR here in Dallas, once Aikman went down, the season was over. And had we kept the pick, based on the direction Dallas was looking in, they would have had very little impact on the record in 2000. It was a bad deal no doubt, but the RG3 trade is easily one of the worst trades in sports. I think even if you add up the value of the picks, the RG3 trade was worse than the Ricky Williams trade (doesn't even account for the draft picks the Saints got from Miami for him).