Knox guilty of Kercher murder

[burmafrd]

y

After the trial was over, even the judge at the trial said he thought the defendant (boyfriend) should have testified and may have been able to sway the jury. She may have been able to show a face to the jury and convince them. Her absence spoke volumes to the jury. And now her fate rests with either the Italian Supreme Court overturning the case or the US denying her extradition. Both of which seem unlikely at this point, especially the extradition.

By the way, from what I've seen of defendants, those who are afraid to testify are usually guilty and trying to hide behind their lawyers.

Love how you ignore the fact that the so called murder weapon can no longer even be confirmed as being the murder weapon.

 

[jimmy40]

yeah. let me catch the next flight out to a foreign country to testify at a trial where I've already been found guilty once. you bet

 

[Stryker44]

She should be extradited.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Taken from a Dennis Miller Facebook update: "Hi, I'm Amanda Knox for Olive Garden. If you can't actually go to Italy..."

 

[jobberone]

She should be extradited.

Be a good fellow and volunteer in her place. They just need a warm body to punish.

On a serious note there is the possibility of Italy requesting her extradiction. Something about no clear verdict of not guilty since it was overturned and ordered for retrial. I don't expect she will be though even though we have a treaty with Italy.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I would be afraid of the Italian mob here in the states. She will never lead a normal life........

......are we to believe the Italian mob will help the Italian judicial system get an international fugitive who killed a non Italian citizen?

 

[Manwiththeplan]

After the trial was over, even the judge at the trial said he thought the defendant (boyfriend) should have testified and may have been able to sway the jury. She may have been able to show a face to the jury and convince them. Her absence spoke volumes to the jury. And now her fate rests with either the Italian Supreme Court overturning the case or the US denying her extradition. Both of which seem unlikely at this point, especially the extradition.

By the way, from what I've seen of defendants, those who are afraid to testify are usually guilty and trying to hide behind their lawyers.

maybe its different in Italy, but it's pretty common for people to not testify while they are on trial in America

 

[Tabascocat]

......are we to believe the Italian mob will help the Italian judicial system get an international fugitive who killed a non Italian citizen?

I swear, leave out one sarcasm smiley only to get roasted. It was to late for me to go back and edit. I repeat, I wasn't serious and was watching the Sopranos at the time and that thought popped into my head!

 

[burmafrd]

I swear, leave out one sarcasm smiley only to get roasted. It was to late for me to go back and edit. I repeat, I wasn't serious and was watching the Sopranos at the time and that thought popped into my head!

there are so many stupid posts on this site if you do not make sure its clear then they will take your post as you being serious.

 

[speedkilz88]

Be a good fellow and volunteer in her place. They just need a warm body to punish.

On a serious note there is the possibility of Italy requesting her extradiction. Something about no clear verdict of not guilty since it was overturned and ordered for retrial. I don't expect she will be though even though we have a treaty with Italy.

The treaty gives the US the right to refuse if it contradicts our laws, in this case double jeopardy. Not even going into the fact that their is no evidence supporting the latest verdict.

 

[jobberone]

The treaty gives the US the right to refuse if it contradicts our laws, in this case double jeopardy. Not even going into the fact that their is no evidence supporting the latest verdict.

Not entirely sure if this is double jeopardy or not. Not a legal eagle. My guess is it would be considered double jeopardy but there is apparently some interpretation as to finality to the verdict. I know I will be unhappy about them sending a US citizen under these circumstances.

Send them some money and this will go away. I keed. I keed.

 

[speedkilz88]

Not entirely sure if this is double jeopardy or not. Not a legal eagle. My guess is it would be considered double jeopardy but there is apparently some interpretation as to finality to the verdict. I know I will be unhappy about them sending a US citizen under these circumstances.

Send them some money and this will go away. I keed. I keed.

I've heard some lawyers claim that in Italy it's not considered a final verdict so it's not double jeopardy. But we don't go by their law. In our country it is definitely considered double jeopardy.

 

[Future]

My super-educated theory...

Knox and Guede were doing it.
Victim walked in, said she'd tell the bf.
She gets stabbed, Knox says nothing.

Boom, case closed.

 

[jobberone]

I've heard some lawyers claim that in Italy it's not considered a final verdict so it's not double jeopardy. But we don't go by their law. In our country it is definitely considered double jeopardy.

I heard an American panel discussing it and I forgot exactly what one said; but he claimed there was room to argue she had not had a final verdict or something like that.

 

[burmafrd]

I heard an American panel discussing it and I forgot exactly what one said; but he claimed there was room to argue she had not had a final verdict or something like that.

Would be an interesting debate in court. Would not be hard to argue that the Italians really balled up that case.

 

[jobberone]

Would be an interesting debate in court. Would not be hard to argue that the Italians really balled up that case.

I don't see her being extradited but she won't be able to travel esp if Interpol puts out a warrant.

 

[speedkilz88]

I heard an American panel discussing it and I forgot exactly what one said; but he claimed there was room to argue she had not had a final verdict or something like that.

That's basically what I said. But it doesn't hold water if you go by US law which is what we go by when deciding extradition. Once she was found innocent they can't take it back in our system because of double jeopardy.

 

[jobberone]

That's basically what I said. But it doesn't hold water if you go by US law which is what we go by when deciding extradition. Once she was found innocent they can't take it back in our system because of double jeopardy.

They were speaking of US law. I thought it a just legalese but at times that's all that matters. I don't want to see her sent over there.

 

[speedkilz88]

They were speaking of US law. I thought it a just legalese but at times that's all that matters. I don't want to see her sent over there.

No, actually they weren't talking about US law. They were trying to claim because Italian law doesn't see it as a final decision that it wouldn't be double jeopardy. But that's the thing, we don't go by how Italian law looks at it. Under our laws you can't be retried for the same crime after being found innocent which she was.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I've not followed this other than it appearing on the news but have seen a lot of folk talking about extradition not happening due to double jeopardy in U.S. law. I may be wrong but was she not initially convicted then that verdict was overturned on appeal and the prosecution have now won an appeal on that verdict? As I say I could be wrong but if that is the case then I don't see how double jeopardy applies.

that was how I saw it too, not trying her twice, just appeal and rehearing