LA Rams owner. Sad Story

[Ranching]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/texas-mans-suicide-note-blames-rams-owner-stan-kroenke/

 

[John813]

Wow, that's a lot of land. Is he trying to create another state? lol

Seeing small scale similar issues over here, developer wants land near the ocean, which is currently a nice(seriously) trailer park. Residents can't afford to fight the legal battles, and eventually will be kicked off.

 

[Tom [Giants fan]]

How can he buy land that other people own houses on? I must have misunderstood the article. It doesn't seem like that is something someone should be able to do no matter how much money they have. Does that mean someone can come buy the land I have my house on and evict me any time they feel like it?

 

[jwooten15]

How can he buy land that other people own houses on? I must have misunderstood the article. It doesn't seem like that is something someone should be able to do no matter how much money they have. Does that mean someone can come buy the land I have my house on and evict me any time they feel like it?

That's what I was wondering as well

 

[John813]

Maybe the dude owned the house but not the land. The land could of been leased.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Man...have a heart Stan. This story makes me very sad. Why didn't Stan just help the people move?
Cruel people ruin the world

 

[dreghorn2]

Kroenke is not a nice man.

Marrying into Walmart, using that position to receive advance notice of new stores and development across the country, purchasing land around those developments for below market prices and making huge profits.

Pretty much the epitome of the new age corporate.. choose your own expletive.

Jerrys' support for this guy is sad to say the least, but his, Jerrys', involvement in the LA stadium deal was a benefit to him as well so there is that.

Chargers and Raiders got screwed by the league.

We don't know the backgrounds of all the NFL owners intimately, but i know this one, and because of it i will never hope for the LA Rams to do well.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

How can he buy land that other people own houses on? I must have misunderstood the article. It doesn't seem like that is something someone should be able to do no matter how much money they have. Does that mean someone can come buy the land I have my house on and evict me any time they feel like it?

All I can say is that wealthy land developers have some of the greatest power of anybody in this country. I've dealt with these types in the past and they can basically get the local governments and banks to do whatever they want.

About 12 years ago my sister and husband bought a house with the contract stating that they couldn't develop any more houses or businesses within a certain distance of their home for the next 50-years. Then the land developer started to look into it and my sister kept telling me she had a contract, but I told her to sell the house because they are going to break that contract. She believed me based on my experience dealing with these people and she was glad she did because after she moved...the contract was broken.

There's a community where I used to live that has a golf course as part of the community. The land developer wants to shut down the golf course even though the contract states that the course is part of the deal of purchasing a home there. It's a deed restricted community and the land developer wants to put businesses over the golf course. I think the only thing preventing him from doing it is that there are several EPA violations if he were to try it. But otherwise, he was going to break a contract (w/o penalty) of roughly 3,000 homes.





YR

 

[Nightman]

All I can say is that wealthy land developers have some of the greatest power of anybody in this country. I've dealt with these types in the past and they can basically get the local governments and banks to do whatever they want.

About 12 years ago my sister and husband bought a house with the contract stating that they couldn't develop any more houses or businesses within a certain distance of their home for the next 50-years. Then the land developer started to look into it and my sister kept telling me she had a contract, but I told her to sell the house because they are going to break that contract. She believed me based on my experience dealing with these people and she was glad she did because after she moved...the contract was broken.

There's a community where I used to live that has a golf course as part of the community. The land developer wants to shut down the golf course even though the contract states that the course is part of the deal of purchasing a home there. It's a deed restricted community and the land developer wants to put businesses over the golf course. I think the only thing preventing him from doing it is that there are several EPA violations if he were to try it. But otherwise, he was going to break a contract (w/o penalty) of roughly 3,000 homes.





YR

Once the Supreme Court gave government the right to Eminent Domain for commercial purposes it was over

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Once the Supreme Court gave government the right to Eminent Domain for commercial purposes it was over

Exactly.





YR

 

[JD_KaPow]

Once the Supreme Court gave government the right to Eminent Domain for commercial purposes it was over

Exactly.

This has exactly nothing to do with eminent domain. He bought private land in a private transaction. The homeowners were leasing property on that land on an annual basis. He told them that their leases would not be renewed.

He's still horrible. But nobody's breaking any contracts or seizing land that isn't theirs here.

 

[Nightman]

This has exactly nothing to do with eminent domain. He bought private land in a private transaction. The homeowners were leasing property on that land on an annual basis. He told them that their leases would not be renewed.

He's still horrible. But nobody's breaking any contracts or seizing land that isn't theirs here.

That's not the greater point YR was making......he was saying rich land owners have several tools in their arsenal to take advantage

 

[CyberB0b]

How can he buy land that other people own houses on? I must have misunderstood the article. It doesn't seem like that is something someone should be able to do no matter how much money they have. Does that mean someone can come buy the land I have my house on and evict me any time they feel like it?

Generally , you buy the house and the land, but it depends on what is for sell. I would never buy a building on leased land.

 

[RS12]

That's not the greater point YR was making......he was saying rich land owners have several tools in their arsenal to take advantage

Like big campaign contributions to local judges.

 

[Nightman]

How can he buy land that other people own houses on? I must have misunderstood the article. It doesn't seem like that is something someone should be able to do no matter how much money they have. Does that mean someone can come buy the land I have my house on and evict me any time they feel like it?

They are mobile homes and the leases are up at the end of the year......they were given notice in Aug that they had to be gone by Jan 31st 2017.......many of the residents are poor and still can't afford to move......it is tough but you can't expect to live on someone else's land forever

 

[Bigdog]

Once the Supreme Court gave government the right to Eminent Domain for commercial purposes it was over

Yes but even with Emiinent Domain the government still has to pay you fair compensations for your house and the land around it if you own the land. These poor people are being kicked off their land . How much land or money does one person need? It would be good for Kroenke to let them live in their houses, imo.

 

[Nightman]

Yes but even with Emiinent Domain the government still has to pay you fair compensations for your house and the land around it if you own the land. These poor people are being kicked off their land . How much land or money does one person need? It would be good for Kroenke to let them live in their houses, imo.

From what I understand it isn't their land......they just have mobile homes on the property he bought last year.......he gave them 6 months notice that their leases would not be renewed next year....it does sound cold but what obligation does he have to these people and how long does he have to let them be

 

[muck4doo]

From what I understand it isn't their land......they just have mobile homes on the property he bought last year.......he gave them 6 months notice that their leases would not be renewed next year....it does sound cold but what obligation does he have to these people and how long does he have to let them be

How is it hurting him to let these people be in their little trailers on a small amount of land on his new huge land grab? Something most people know is you don't kick people who are at a disadvantage in life. People like Kroenke don't have the morality gene in them. He got where he is by greed, and greed is the only thing he knows. His humanity was thrown out the window years ago. And no, I'm not some pot smoking "occupy" person, but a Conservative who knows flat out greed douchebaggery when I see it.

 

[muck4doo]

From what I understand it isn't their land......they just have mobile homes on the property he bought last year.......he gave them 6 months notice that their leases would not be renewed next year....it does sound cold but what obligation does he have to these people and how long does he have to let them be

Morals usually play in the obligation game, but you are right. He has no legal reason to do so. "Let the poor eat cake".

 

[Nightman]

How is it hurting him to let these people be in their little trailers on a small amount of land on his new huge land grab? Something most people know is you don't kick people who are at a disadvantage in life. People like Kroenke don't have the morality gene in them. He got where he is by greed, and greed is the only thing he knows. His humanity was thrown out the window years ago. And no, I'm not some pot smoking "occupy" person, but a Conservative who knows flat out greed douchebaggery when I see it.

Why is on him to provide for these people forever....what about the heirs that just got 750m for the land and made the original deals.....I don't know anything about Kroenke but it seems harsh to blame a suicide on him for a 61 year old man that had nothing....who even knows what his level of involvement is.......I usually need more info before I start attacking people's souls