Lack of support system for Gregory?

[MileyDancer]

C'mon, blame Jerry? He's had player's backs since he purchased the team. He goes out of his way to provide the very best and supportive environment, from playing field to practice/medical facilities. He has a staff that is involved in nothing but player support...and they are very credible.

Stay off this venue with Jason and Jerry hate...it belongs on another part of this site....oh, you joke.

OK, so tell me this. If Garrett is all about "right kind of guy", are you going to sit here and tell me that Gregory and McClain were Garrett's choices? Come on, son.

 

[CCBoy]

OK, so tell me this. If Garrett is all about "right kind of guy", are you going to sit here and tell me that Gregory and McClain were Garrett's choices? Come on, son.

Listen, Preppie, be polite and let go of the insult references...or don't even bother to include me in this kind of garbage.

Myself, I never questioned Jason Garrett on whether he had a pair or not...seems to be an interest toyed with, here.

Go bore someone else.

 

[dogunwo]

At this point I don't really know if I'm rooting for him to turn his life around.

It doesn't have to be that absolute. You can root for him to turn his life around and not root for him to come back to the team.

 

[CCBoy]

It doesn't have to be that absolute. You can root for him to turn his life around and not root for him to come back to the team.

Good post here...

Gregory is far from a wash out in life...but even a fool has his own story.

 

[dogunwo]

Good post here...

Gregory is far from a wash out in life...but even a fool has his own story.

I thought I was the only lame up this early posting on a message board. Lol. Good morning.

 

[CCBoy]

I thought I was the only lame up this early posting on a message board. Lol. Good morning.

Good morning, as always...good time to challenge the start of another day. Have a great day, Sir!

 

[Redball Express]

So the way I understand it Gregory was in drug rehab prior to the start of camp... and he bailed from rehab for a few days and thus is penalized the same as not taking a mandatory drug test...

My question is where was the support system from the team to players to help this guy out...

The whole risk/reward of drafting Gregory was that the great Cowboys support system was going to support and reform him and make him succeed here???

I dont know about that support system.

With Dez they assigned him a chaperon.

Guess Gregory wasn't worth that.

 

[Cowboy06]

While I agree with your sentiments to an extent, that players are responsible for their own actions, lets not forget that nobody forced the Cowboys to draft this guy and its not like this is a surprise addiction either. He was busted so many times at Nebraska for smoking weed that the head coach told the school to stop testing him.

So the Cowboys were fully aware that he was addicted to weed and still decided to draft him. So what happens?

Surprise, surprise, surprise, he gets busted again. That is the thing with addictions, they don't just disappear like a fart in the wind. So if the team does not have the proper support staff to watch players like this 24/7, then maybe the team needs to stop drafting players with drug addictions.

Just saying

Yes I did consider that. Yet, I am more irritated with the man, not the organization. When do you say "I need help" and you seek it out. I am ticked at the Cowboys Front Office as well. There are other players that don't smoke, sniff, snort, drink. And while they may not be as talented, they are available to play on game day...But yes, I see what you are saying and I truly respect it.

 

[Bullflop]

I sincerely hope that this team and those in charge of procuring its talent realize now that welcoming players with serious red flags is something that should not be permitted in the future. Anytime a player's history indicates you can't entrust him to conduct himself within the framework of what is necessary to be successful, that player should be left alone, simply to become available to some other team.

 

[RoboQB]

"Hit me in the head with a hammer, the next time I draft a dumb player." - Jimmy Johnson

That quote should be plastered all over the war room.
Now, maybe Gregory isn't dumb. Maybe it really is a mental health issue. However, this is about football. Not some attempt at a "feel good" story.
Same goes for McClain and every other head case that's been brought in to wear the star on his helmet.

 

[TwoDeep3]

The fact every team uses drugs to get their players on the field makes this point about pot stupid. Most of the league smokes pot and are smart enough to take measures to disguise it. As more and more states are considering and eventually will decriminalize, and then legalize pot, this stance by the league is hypocritical at best.

Don't think these guys are not using pain killers to withstand the rigors of this game. Brett Favre is a prime example of a guy who could not control his use of drugs. The type of drugs that are legal and sanctioned by this league. And does anyone think Favre just turned his back on those drugs once he was caught?

They manage pain with these drugs, and pot has a quality that pends itself to this very same goal.

I am not defending Gregory as an individual. Or the team for perhaps forsaking him.

But this league shows yearly how they are hypocrites in so many ways. Both from the owner side and the player side.

 

[DandyDon52]

Then why draft him?

Drug addictions don't disappear like a fart in the wind and it was common knowledge before the draft he couldn't pass a single test at Nebraska.

it was jerrys desire to get top players cheaply, the "steal".
they evidently thought they could talk to him and everything would be ok lol.
Addictions are hard to overcome no matter what type it is. and it varies with the individual.

His history suggested he was not able to quit, so it was a stupid pick, they should have waited, and see if he was there
in a later round, like 4, and if not then pick him up on waivers from another team down the road.
Smith was not worth a 2nd round pick either.

 

[DandyDon52]

The fact every team uses drugs to get their players on the field makes this point about pot stupid. Most of the league smokes pot and are smart enough to take measures to disguise it. As more and more states are considering and eventually will decriminalize, and then legalize pot, this stance by the league is hypocritical at best.

Don't think these guys are not using pain killers to withstand the rigors of this game. Brett Favre is a prime example of a guy who could not control his use of drugs. The type of drugs that are legal and sanctioned by this league. And does anyone think Favre just turned his back on those drugs once he was caught?

They manage pain with these drugs, and pot has a quality that pends itself to this very same goal.

I am not defending Gregory as an individual. Or the team for perhaps forsaking him.

But this league shows yearly how they are hypocrites in so many ways. Both from the owner side and the player side.

it isnt about logic or being fair, it is about image, and that your biggest game sponsor is beer companys, who dont want
pot to be legal.
If the nfl said we wont test for pot anymore, and the beer companies, pull their ads, how would that affect the next tv contracts ??
Heck the beer companies, may even pay the nfl to test for pot.
and pot is still illegal in federal law, they could go into colorado or the other states, and start shutting things down there anytime they want to.

It would be interesting to look at beer sales in states after pot is made legal for sale.
I imagine beer companies are looking at that now.

 

[Bullflop]

it was jerrys desire to get top players cheaply, the "steal".
they evidently thought they could talk to him and everything would be ok lol.
Addictions are hard to overcome no matter what type it is. and it varies with the individual.

His history suggested he was not able to quit, so it was a stupid pick, they should have waited, and see if he was there
in a later round, like 4, and if not then pick him up on waivers from another team down the road.
Smith was not worth a 2nd round pick either.

I gave you a "like" based on what you said as it pertains to Gregory. It may well turn out to pertain to Jaylon Smith as well if he can't play this year but especially so if he's unable to play in the seasons to follow as well. I wouldn't be surprised if he's praised to the high heavens next year if he's able to perform as most might hope, however. In any event, it should prove interesting to see what becomes of that situation in due time.

 

[plasticman]

I think a lot of people misunderstand the concept of a support system.

It is not the responsibility of those in a support system to prevent a player from doing drugs. It is their responsibility to be there and use their expertise when a player requests assistance.

The player must request assistance. They have to want to not do drugs. If they have a drug problem then wanting to quit may not be enough, they require professionl help.

The old saying goes, you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink. When it comes down to it, Gregory must ultimately make the right choices.

 

[Risen Star]

Support this. The guy's an idiot and you can't fix stupid.

 

[fortdick]

Guessing support for marijuana abuse isn't the same as other issues on the Boys list of priorities.

Good grief, when does personal responsibility come into play. Everything has been tried short of cutting him and sending him to jail, which is where he will wind up. He is worse than Carter and Randle combined.

 

[fortdick]

Support this. The guy's an idiot and you can't fix stupid.

I think this may be the first time I ever got weak and gave you a thumbs up.

 

[keds]

The way I see it not every deal is good just because it's at a discount...

I could have gotten stock in a typewriter company cheap just prior to the advent of computer word processing... but that wouldn't make it a good deal, as
typewriters were on there way to becoming obsolete...

Gregory wasn't a good deal in the second round... Jerry says they had him rated as a top first round prospect based on talent, assuming without a pot addiction... with a pot addiction it looks now like
Gregory was at best a 4th to 5th round value...

 

[The Quest for Six]

Is it the Dallas Cowboys responsibility that Gregory is an drug addict, ........there's an easy fix, either cut him or stop drafting these RED FLAG players.....