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Cowboys&LakersFan;4849530 said:
Good season? The Lakers better win the championship or it's a complete and utter failure. We're not the Clippers. The Lakers have championship expectations every single season essentially and this season is no different. When you make the kind of moves the Lakers made in the offseason in getting Dwight Howard and Steve Nash then you should have championship aspirations. Kobe and Nash have probably two seasons left of playing NBA basketball which means the sense of urgency must be there.

No, I don't think so. We have a great starting 5 but the reality is that all these folks who say that we don't have a lot of depth and that we have age are correct. Both of those things are true. The Lakers have a great cap situation in the coming years. If we can't win this year, it's pretty key to ensure the resigning of Howard and if we can be successful with that, I think that's a very, very good goal.

Of course, a championship would also be nice.
 
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ABQCOWBOY;4850080 said:
No, I don't think so. We have a great starting 5 but the reality is that all these folks who say that we don't have a lot of depth and that we have age are correct. Both of those things are true. The Lakers have a great cap situation in the coming years. If we can't win this year, it's pretty key to ensure the resigning of Howard and if we can be successful with that, I think that's a very, very good goal.

Of course, a championship would also be nice.

I don't agree with that because Miami didn't have great depth last season and they won a championship. You can even look at the five championship teams the Lakers have had in the Kobe Bryant era. None of those teams were very deep, but they had extremely talented starting lineups just like this team has. When you have Kobe Bryant who is still one of the best players in the world, Dwight Howard the best big in the world, two All Stars in Steve Nash and Pau Gasol, and last but not least a very solid role player on both ends in Metta World Peace you don't need great depth.
 

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Man, what a moron Jerry Buss is hiring a moron and a clown like D'Antoni.

What's that? Oh..
 

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Cowboys&LakersFan;4850004 said:
So what? They're two of the best players in the world. I could care less if they're prima donnas. Kobe and Shaq were "prima donnas" and won three championships.
Lakers are the Yankees of the NBA -Buy rings
 

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juck;4850709 said:
Lakers are the Yankees of the NBA -Buy rings

Newsflash.. you can say that about every team who has ever won a championship in a professional sports league. Every team pays players to try to win for them. Im sick of hearing that certain teams try to buy championships.. that's the point of owning a team!
 

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RoyTheHammer;4850718 said:
Newsflash.. you can say that about every team who has ever won a championship in a professional sports league. Every team pays players to try to win for them. Im sick of hearing that certain teams try to buy championships.. that's the point of owning a team!
Cmon man! NBA caters to the Lakers,ala Pau gasol trade.I smell another one coming with Josh Smith soon.Jerry used to be able to pull this stuff off before the salary cap ever since then hes strapped. NBA needs a cap like football does. None of this soft luxury tax to pay. Actual hard cap like NFl. Baseball too. Even out the playing field.
 

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Cowboys&LakersFan;4850085 said:
I don't agree with that because Miami didn't have great depth last season and they won a championship. You can even look at the five championship teams the Lakers have had in the Kobe Bryant era. None of those teams were very deep, but they had extremely talented starting lineups just like this team has. When you have Kobe Bryant who is still one of the best players in the world, Dwight Howard the best big in the world, two All Stars in Steve Nash and Pau Gasol, and last but not least a very solid role player on both ends in Metta World Peace you don't need great depth.
Ur not getting a ring this year.
 

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Cowboys&LakersFan;4850085 said:
I don't agree with that because Miami didn't have great depth last season and they won a championship. You can even look at the five championship teams the Lakers have had in the Kobe Bryant era. None of those teams were very deep, but they had extremely talented starting lineups just like this team has. When you have Kobe Bryant who is still one of the best players in the world, Dwight Howard the best big in the world, two All Stars in Steve Nash and Pau Gasol, and last but not least a very solid role player on both ends in Metta World Peace you don't need great depth.

I'm not saying they can't win. I'm saying that a Championship is not the only way t measure a successful season.

BTW, Miami was much younger then the Lakers are now.
 

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The Heat didn't buy a championship? Duh.

If you want to play that way.
 

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juck;4850709 said:
Lakers are the Yankees of the NBA -Buy rings

The Mavs tried, over, and over again...they got it right...and switched it up.


juck;4850745 said:
Cmon man! NBA caters to the Lakers,ala Pau gasol trade.

Yet the Chris Paul trade was shut down ???

You are reaching. Start hating what your owner is not willing to do, or what he can't do correctly.
 

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juck;4850745 said:
Cmon man! NBA caters to the Lakers,ala Pau gasol trade.I smell another one coming with Josh Smith soon.Jerry used to be able to pull this stuff off before the salary cap ever since then hes strapped. NBA needs a cap like football does. None of this soft luxury tax to pay. Actual hard cap like NFl. Baseball too. Even out the playing field.

I hear, "whine whine whine.. i wish my owner was willing to spend like Buss does".

:)
 

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RoyTheHammer;4850794 said:
I hear, "whine whine whine.. i wish my owner was willing to spend like Buss does".

:)
No you hear,the ruination of sports.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;4850832 said:
No, the Lakers are the Lakers of the NBA.
Wheres the joy in rooting for a team like the Yankees and Lakers? These teams get any player they want and theres no agony of defeat overall. The Cowboys struggles in the last 16 years have actually brought me closer to the team. Imagine the joy if a team like the Browns win a Sb for the fans. When the Mavs finally broke through and won it all that was so special. Especially to beat the Heat. They were complete underdogs. It was years of close but no cigars but it made it more special. Most fans that are yankee,lakers and cowboy fans are frontrunners. Or just root for the most "popular" teams.
 

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juck;4850942 said:
No you hear,the ruination of sports.

Not hardly. The echoes of that have long since faded. If you want to blame somebody for that, blame Curt Flood and the Phillies or Charlie Finley and his personal services contracts to get around MLB's "Reserve Clause" and later having fire sales to trade off players.

If you can still hear those echoes, that's what you need to listen for because that's where the sounds of "ruination" hail from.
 

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juck;4850970 said:
Wheres the joy in rooting for a team like the Yankees and Lakers? These teams get any player they want and theres no agony of defeat overall. The Cowboys struggles in the last 16 years have actually brought me closer to the team. Imagine the joy if a team like the Browns win a Sb for the fans. When the Mavs finally broke through and won it all that was so special. Especially to beat the Heat. They were complete underdogs. It was years of close but no cigars but it made it more special. Most fans that are yankee,lakers and cowboy fans are frontrunners. Or just root for the most "popular" teams.

In my heart. Where else would it be? You have said it yourself many, many times. The Yankees spend all this money and never win anything. They suck, according to you. If this is true, then what do you care if they spend money and why would it be different for me as a fan? Money doesn't guarantee success so I'm just like any other fan right?

I've been fans of these teams longer then many posters on this board have been alive so I don't believe your opinion on the respective fan bases. If you have any empirical data on the matter, I'm happy to consider it but I'm pretty sure that this type of data does not exist. So then, what we are left with is an opinion. If that is your opinion, then so be it. I do not share it.
 

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juck;4850970 said:
Wheres the joy in rooting for a team like the Yankees and Lakers? These teams get any player they want and theres no agony of defeat overall. The Cowboys struggles in the last 16 years have actually brought me closer to the team. Imagine the joy if a team like the Browns win a Sb for the fans. When the Mavs finally broke through and won it all that was so special. Especially to beat the Heat. They were complete underdogs. It was years of close but no cigars but it made it more special. Most fans that are yankee,lakers and cowboy fans are frontrunners. Or just root for the most "popular" teams.

Any team has the ability to sign players in the NBA up to any salary level they desire and pay the luxury tax for doing so. Whine to your owner for not caring enough to anti up.. but please stop whining on here.
 

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RoyTheHammer;4851071 said:
Any team has the ability to sign players in the NBA up to any salary level they desire and pay the luxury tax for doing so. Whine to your owner for not caring enough to anti up.. but please stop whining on here.
Ill say what I want its a messageboard. Sorry frontrunner
 
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