Last 5 Years of Drafts

[Nation]

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2009 and 2013 actually look a lot worse than they really are, at least if you are comparing current contribution to a team like New England or Seattle. But that cheap quality depth in the middle rounds of the 2010-2012 drafts is more or less a disaster.

 

[Risen Star]

I do think our drafting has improved recently but not to the tune that's been sold around here. That 2012 draft class was an abortion. 2011 doesn't look nearly as good if this is the real Bruce Carter. We basically got nothing out of 7 picks after Dez and Lee in 2010. Don't even get me started on 2009.

 

[Common Sense]

I do think our drafting has improved recently but not to the tune that's been sold around here. That 2012 draft class was an abortion. 2011 doesn't look nearly as good if this is the real Bruce Carter. We basically got nothing out of 7 picks after Dez and Lee in 2010. Don't even get me started on 2009.

It only improved because it took a dip back into the Quincy Carter years for a little bit. Now it's back to mediocre.

 

[WoodysGirl]

2009 was garbage. I'm sure all the guys are good folks, but their contribution to the 'boys was crap. But the only guy in that group who was even expected to be in the NFL this year was Victor Butler.

2010 is only saved by Dez.

2011 is saved by Tyron, but at least the guys that aren't here are still in the league somewhere.

2013 is actually not a bad draft. Those guys are just inexperienced and are playing bigger roles than their experience allows.

 

[Risen Star]

2009 was garbage. I'm sure all the guys are good folks, but their contribution to the 'boys was crap. But the only guy in that group who was even expected to be in the NFL this year was Victor Butler.

2010 is only saved by Dez.

2011 is saved by Tyron, but at least the guys that aren't here are still in the league somewhere.

2013 is actually not a bad draft. Those guys are just inexperienced and are playing bigger roles than their experience allows.

2011 could end up being the best of the lot if Carter rebounds. You'd have three solid starters and a real nice slot WR/return man. I don't know if 2013 will give you that.

 

[Nation]

The only thing I will say about 2009 is that there is a level of sunk costs there as opposed to them part of 2013's problems. Don't get me wrong, that draft being a disaster had MAJOR implications on the failures of 2010, 2011, and 2012. But in 2013 if all of those players were hits they would not be cheap labor, they'd be on their second contract. But that would certainly be a nice problem to have and better than the alternative, especially if it would end up netting us compensatory picks.

 

[Common Sense]

2011 could end up being the best of the lot if Carter rebounds. You'd have three solid starters and a real nice slot WR/return man. I don't know if 2013 will give you that.

I'm not sold on 2013 just yet. Wilcox is looking like too much of a project for a third round safety and lost his starting spot to a rookie UDFA from Somewhere Valley State, B.W. Webb doesn't look like he belongs in the NFL even for a fourth round rookie, and who knows what the deal is with Escobar.

 

[Scowboys8]

Only one interior DL drafted (S.Lissemore) and he is on another team. That can't be right???

 

[CaptainCreed]

That is a lot of green, which is usually a good thing...I felt like we gave up on Josh Thomas too soon and he has been a decent player for the Panthers. Late round picks are lotto tickets and we have not been hitting on them. Early picks are not staying on the field...At least we are not paying them a ton like pre-CBA.

 

[85Cowboy85]

2009 is brutal. 2012 is trending towards below average.

2010 and 2012 are good. There are in my opinion 4 really good players there (Murray,Smith,Lee,Bryant)

When I look at our team the problems mostly stem from misallocation of cap resources. The drafting has been the lesser issue.

 

[Dcowboy84]

ugh i still shudder looking back at 2009...and boy i totally forgot all those guys picked after Dez & Lee in 2010. i mean you're talking about a ton of picks that should have become quality backups at least on this team for a number of years and most didn't even make it past their rookie seasons with us. *sigh*

the last 3 years is harder to really jump to conclusions on just yet, but we're close on 2011...and like it's been said it hinges on Carter. Tyron is a stud, Murray can be a great pick depending on injury, and we got a great find with Harris but if Carter can find that guy who took over for Lee last year it puts that draft on another level

2012 obviously depends on Claiborne, and i refuse to give up on him yet. b/c we traded our 2nd to get him and Jerry said he was the best CB he'd seen since Deion the expectations for the young man went to the extreme. Crawford i think had a chance to really do something this year unfortunately he got to be the first injury casualty on day 1 of camp. but that draft could give us 4 quality players if things pan out with Mo, Crawford, Wilbur and Hanna

and it's way too early to judge this years draft, but Fred looks like a great pick and we've seen flashes of T-Will. Escobar will look off until he can overtake Hanna and become a regular contributor which is always hard when you have a Witten on the team, and i think Wilcox and Holloman will both be starting next year potentially. and Randle if he bulks up a bit i think can be a good complimentary back

anyway bottom line is the OP showed another example of how screwed up this team got due to some horrible drafts that really affected where our current depth should have come from. but the arrow points up after that and hopefully that trend continues

 

[Titleist]

I was almost sure AOA was going to be big...

Boy was I wrong.

 

[Nova]

2009 actually was pretty terrible league wide.

The first 10 picks:
Matthew Stafford
Jason Smith
Tyson Jackson
Aaron Curry
Mark Sanchez
Andre Smith
Darrius Heyward-Bey
Eugene Monroe
BJ Raji
Michael Crabtree

5 best players from that draft as ranked by me:


Lesean McCoy
Clay Matthews
Jarius Byrd
Matthew Stafford
Hakeem Nicks


Other notables, but not special players at all


Brian Orakpo
Brian Cushing
Alex Mack
Max Unger
Michael Crabtree
Sebastian Vollmer

 

[Risen Star]

I'm not sold on 2013 just yet. Wilcox is looking like too much of a project for a third round safety and lost his starting spot to a rookie UDFA from Somewhere Valley State, B.W. Webb doesn't look like he belongs in the NFL even for a fourth round rookie, and who knows what the deal is with Escobar.

The jury is still out but I do think it looks better year 1 than the usual steamers the Cowboys drop on us. I think Frederick is already a solid starter. I believe Williams will be too. If you can get production from one or two more, that's a good class.

 

[Nation]

My biggest Micro takeaway was that the team really has no proven recent history of developing guys that are physical specimens who are raw and in need of seasoning. Jason Williams, Brewster, and AOA come to mind for starters, which scares me for Gavin Escobar's chances of developing.

Of the guys that are current real contributors (Dez, Lee, Smith, Murray, Carter, Harris, Frederick, and Williams) all were proven commodities at the NCAA level.

 

[InDakWeTrust]

My biggest Micro takeaway was that the team really has no proven recent history of developing guys that are physical specimens who are raw and in need of seasoning. Jason Williams, Brewster, and AOA come to mind for starters, which scares me for Gavin Escobar's chances of developing.

Of the guys that are current real contributors (Dez, Lee, Smith, Murray, Carter, Harris, Frederick, and Williams) all were proven commodities at the NCAA level.

You cant draft all proven commodities looking at Parcells and his great drafting of Rogers, Peterman, Spears, Green, and Julius for example.

 

[conner01]

I was almost sure AOA was going to be big...

Boy was I wrong.

i don't think you can really judge because of the injuries. he was a good pick but he got injured and was done

 

[xwalker]

2009 and 2013 actually look a lot worse than they really are, at least if you are comparing current contribution to a team like New England or Seattle. But that cheap quality depth in the middle rounds of the 2010-2012 drafts is more or less a disaster.

The 2009 draft is irrelavant now. Those players would all have been free agents now. The Cowboys missed on picking OG Andy Levitre with their 2nd round pick but could have signed him as a free agent prior to this season.

Players singing with their own teams at a discount is a myth.

 

[Cowboyz88]

2009 actually was pretty terrible league wide.

5 best players from that draft as ranked by me:

Lesean McCoy

What stinks most is that he was there for the Cowboys, who had a first round grade on him, yet they chose to go a different direction.

More fine work from the GM.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

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2009 and 2013 actually look a lot worse than they really are, at least if you are comparing current contribution to a team like New England or Seattle. But that cheap quality depth in the middle rounds of the 2010-2012 drafts is more or less a disaster.

The 2013 draft class for the entire NFL was terrible. I think, as long as injury doesn't come into play, we made out quite well for the 2013 class. Frederick is a legitimate top-10 center for years to come. Williams and Wilcox look like legit NFL starters. Even Escobar is showing some promise as a receiving threat. So if we get 3-4 legit NFL starters and a top-10 player at their position in Frederick, we did quite well.

Once you get out of the 3rd round, picking up quality players becomes harder and harder. We also haven't considered UDFA's which for whatever reason usually get neglected in the discussion. The big thing that stands out is how injured the 2012 class has been. Crawford doesn't play a down this year. Claiborne is injured for most of the year. Johnson has yet to play 1 down of regular season football. The same with Coale. However, during this time we've picked up Beasley, Dunbar, Church and Heath in the UDFA's.






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