Last night OL

[thunderpimp91]

Hoffman got beat pretty bad last night and his PFF grade is significantly lower than Smith I THINK because of the help Hoffman got from Beebe probably kept him getting more neutral grades on what most people would probably view as higher grades. Smith did a lot more 1v1 and didnt get beat nearly as much. Hoffman also had some bad looking plays that I'm sure were -2s in PFFs scoring and he had several plays where he didn't look as fluid as normal at the 2nd level and ended up on the ground a couple times trying to make those blocks. Some of the negative plays I saw in watching:

Q1 3:36 - Falls down after running into Veas back
Q1 2:58 - Hoffman beat on a quick swim move that blows up the play
Q1 2:52 - On the Tolbert TD, Vea beats hoffman for quick pressure forcing an early throw
Q2 10:49 - Chop block doesnt even phase Vea
Q2 4:10 - 96 just pushes Hoffman out of the way to make the tackle on Dowdle on a toss play....a toss play.
Q2 3:29 - Ball comes out quick so it doesnt hurt the play but Hoffman is late to pickup the stunt and gets driven back into QB depth
Q2 3:05 - Rush gets the ball off, but Hoffman pushed back qb depth again
Q2 :48 - Looks like he was slow to pick up the stunt - #9 drives him into QB depth
Q2 :28 - Hoffman gives up the sack in right around 2 seconds
Q3 8:23 - Hoffman false start
Q3 :31 - Nice down block on #96 but Hoffman too slow to get off that block and to the LB who made the play for minimal gain
Q4 14:27 - Beat by #96 who is playing an inside technique moving outside on the outside zone run. All Hoffman needed to do here was wall his man off to open a seam for Dowdle, instead he makes the play
Q4 13:20 - Penalty on Hoffman, holding
Q4 13:03 - Hoffman beat on a quick inside move from #94
Q4 9:10 - Hoffman beat by a bull rush on #94, 94 gets a hit on Rush after the ball is released

Just too many negative plays to score well with PFF, and he didnt have many blocks that were likely to get more than the typical 0 or +.5 grades on their scale to offset many of those negative plays. RG and LT were the obvious weak points for the Cowboys last night, the other 3 OL didn't do nearly as bad as the run game numbers would suggest.

 

[RonWashington]

Can someone explain Edoga starting LT and your # 1 pick a spectator . These are important games for all the young draft picks over the last two yrs to get reps . Edoga should be moving on in 2025 not starting over a # 1 pick who needs reps .

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

you seem to miss the obvious a lot
so many here were touting the young ol players and they mostly got owned last night

yet we won which is all that matters

too many like you care more about gotcha moments than the result. You are one who probably prefers to lose so you can complain than see them win

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I never felt so bad for a player like I did for Ferguson when he got chased and blindsided by Vea. He didn’t know what him. Remarkable play by Vea. Why can’t we find guys like that in the draft?

yeah I figured he had the first down when he caught it then chubs sent him into orbit

 

[fairviewfarmer]

Guyton obviously is not going to be a quality LT any time soon,
Wonder how he would be at RG or LG?
Hopefully some help arrives via the draft or Free agency. It shouldn't break the bank to find someone more promising than Guyton in FA.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

This game showed why they wanted Beebe at center. Hoffman is just too small. Beebe is 25 lbs heavier, and will be even better after a full offseason in an NFL weight room.

Hoffman is a great backup piece who can play multiple spots, but people got carried away with the anointing oil for him.

 

[Aven8]

i never had faith in our offensive coaches

however, if any of them and by them i mean JJ had sense and we know he doesnt

it was a wasted year, throw it away and play guys and get them experience and thier own positions and try to be better for next year.

even with the remanimg games meaning nothing im afraid they wont do that.

but there is no one pplayer in any draft getting us over the hump any time soon. It wasnt the best number 1 pick but far from the worst in my opininion

Jeanty could totally transform this thing. But he’s a pipe dream now…..

 

[RonWashington]

To my view of the game Guyton Smith Hoffman Beebe Steele should be starting getting the reps down the stretch . Nothing wrong with Beebe entering 25 taking over where Martin was at G and Hoffmann at center and you have nice depth in Richards & Bass .

Asim Richards would be an interesting addition at LT next season with Guyton taking over RT and Steele swing tackle . Edoga & Waltezco to me have earned a trip out of town next season . Churn the roster . Thomas the late rounder can take one of those spots and an UDFA addition the other .

OL is the one group not in dire emergency mode that and perhaps safety with Hooker Wilson Juanyeh Thomas trio next season

 

[gtb1943]

yet we won which is all that matters

too many like you care more about gotcha moments than the result. You are one who probably prefers to lose so you can complain than see them win

not my problem you are not a good judge of football talent

 

[CCBoy]

This Eagle game could well have an influence on whether Steele is resigned in the off season.

 

[starfan1]

Because we win games late in the season after the playoffs are out of reach, thus forcing us to draft so late in each round the following draft, thus keeping such players like Vea out of reach.

But, hey, let's keep trying to win just for feeling's sake even if it hurts us come draft time. SMH

I don’t begrudge them trying to win but we’ve only done that this year and really the Tampa game is the first and only one that the scenario you describe took place

You play to win it’s a fans perspective to tank for draft

They can still find quality from 12-19 and lord knows we have many spots that need filled

 

[starfan1]

Jeanty could totally transform this thing. But he’s a pipe dream now…..

Jeanty is putting up nice numbers at Boise but the carries are mounting
It’s doubtful depending on where he lands that he’s incredibly effective beyond his rookie contract

All depends on his running style and how he cares for his body but your right chances are he’s out of reach and I’m not convinced the cowboys pick him up anyway if he were

 

[America's Cowboy]

I don’t begrudge them trying to win but we’ve only done that this year and really the Tampa game is the first and only one that the scenario you describe took place

You play to win it’s a fans perspective to tank for draft

They can still find quality from 12-19 and lord knows we have many spots that need filled

You still are restricting yourself. It's definitely much better to draft in the top 10 where you can trade down to between 12-18 and still pick up an extra 3rd and 4th round picks. That's what many are refusing to understand.

 

[starfan1]

You still are restricting yourself. It's definitely much better to draft in the top 10 where you can trade down to between 12-18 and still pick up an extra 3rd and 4th round picks. That's what many are refusing to understand.

lol you forget who our GM is? As long as he’s running the show I’m not too optimistic that he’d do such things
His track record without Johnson suggest things like maxi pad and taco charlton and less wheeling and dealing with high picks

They may lose this week even if they try not to



I get your point though . Merry Christmas