Late Game Thread

[Risen Star]

Every time I see the Commanders play I get more angry at the Cowboys for losing to them. The way RGIII is playing the Cowboys won't get a chance to play him, which makes the Commanders better through subtraction.

Same here. I watch them play and wonder how. the. hell. did the Cowboys lose to this team?

 

[Texas_Pete]

Is this the last season we see RGIII in DC? His rookie head coach threw him under the bus already basically saying he's auditioning to keep his job. Should be interesting to see how this turns out.

 

[TonyRomo17]

I doubt it. McCoy will be the starter for the rest of the season.

Yup they probably will, week 17 will be tough

 

[DallasJ7]

LMAO at that final drive (watching from a stream so I was behind on that game). The drama in DC should be juicy this week.

 

[KJJ]

Assigning records to individual players is stupid, no matter who it is. Narrowing it down to some narrow definition created for one player is just doubling down on the stupid. And it doesn't matter what the Cowboys respected. The fact is, he was awful that game.

QB's like head coaches have always been given W/L records because their play/coaching decisions have a great influence on the outcome of games. The elimination game stat wasn't created for Romo it's only used with him because he has a small playoff game resume and has played in more season finale elimination games than any QB in recent memory. Romo hasn't led the Cowboys to the playoffs since the 09 season so it's put more scrutiny on his season finale elimination games. Since Romo's last playoff game during the 09 season he's played in 2 season finale elimination games. If he was leading the Cowboys to the playoffs every year no one would be talking about his "elimination game" record they would be talking about his playoff game record.

 

[LatinMind]

When you say "done", do you mean miss the playoffs? Because that would require an epic collapse by the Cards as well as SF/SEA basically winning out.

done as far as home field

 

[Kevinicus]

QB's like head coaches have always been given W/L records because their play/coaching decisions have a great influence on the outcome of games. The elimination game stat wasn't created for Romo it's only used with him because he has a small playoff game resume and has played in more season finale elimination games than any QB in recent memory. Romo hasn't led the Cowboys to the playoffs since the 09 season so it's put more scrutiny on his season finale elimination games. Since Romo's last playoff game during the 09 season he's played in 2 season finale elimination games. If he was leading the Cowboys to the playoffs every year no one would be talking about his "elimination game" record they would be talking about his playoff game record.

Coaches make sense. QBs or any other player does not. I don't care that other people have applied it to QBs in their efforts to judge. If they choose to be stupid, I don't have to join them.

Please point to the elimination game existing prior to its use for Romo?

 

[KJJ]

Coaches make sense. QBs or any other player does not. I don't care that other people have applied it to QBs in their efforts to judge. If they choose to be stupid, I don't have to join them.

Please point to the elimination game existing prior to its use for Romo?

Coaches don't make plays or win games QB's do. The other people that have applied it to QB's are those who've played and coached the game. Please point to any QB other than Romo who's appeared in 3 season finale elimination games since 2008?

 

[Kevinicus]

Coaches don't make plays or win games QB's do. The other people that have applied it to QB's are those who've played and coached the game. Please point to any QB other than Romo who's appeared in 3 season finale elimination games since 2008?

Qbs don't win games, they contribute, that is all.

What does the last sentence have to do with anything? You said the stat existed...surely you had seen it somewhere before...right?

 

[KJJ]

Qbs don't win games, they contribute, that is all.

What does the last sentence have to do with anything? You said the stat existed...surely you had seen it somewhere before...right?

QB's have won plenty of games because they touch the ball on every offensive snap. They have control over a game like no other player which is why they're the highest paid players in the league and the QB position is the most coveted position in the NFL draft. The elimination game stat was created by me on this board over 3 years ago.

 

[Kevinicus]

QB's have won plenty of games because they touch the ball on every offensive snap. They have control over a game like no other player which is why they're the highest paid players in the league and the QB position is the most coveted position in the NFL draft. The elimination game stat was created by me on this board over 3 years ago.

Yeah, okay, you created it...sure.

And QBs have the most significant impact of any one position sure, but they still do not win or lose a game by themselves.

 

[KJJ]

Yeah, okay, you created it...sure.

And QBs have the most significant impact of any one position sure, but they still do not win or lose a game by themselves.

Trust me it was created by me at least on this board. No mention of "elimination games" anywhere prior to Jan 2011. Pitchers don't win games by themselves either but they're credited with wins and losses.

 

[Kevinicus]

Trust me it was created by me at least on this board. No mention of "elimination games" anywhere prior to Jan 2011. Pitchers don't win games by themselves either but they're credited with wins and losses.

And it's irrelvant for pitchers too.

 

[KJJ]

And it's irrelvant for pitchers too.

That's your opinion.

 

[KJJ]

Coaches make sense. QBs or any other player does not.

How do coaches make sense and QB's don't? The coaches who've been considered geniuses have great QB's to thank for that. Bill Belichick was just another HC who had been fired in Cleveland and was on the hotseat in NE until Tom Brady became his QB. Now all these years later some consider Belichick the greatest HC ever. Do you honestly believe he would have had the great head coaching career he's had if Brady never came along? He won only 5 games with Bledsoe in 2000 and was 0-2 with Bledsoe at the start of the 2001 season when Brady took over. Instantly Belichick went from being on the hotseat to looking like a great NFL head coach.

Tom Landry would have never won a championship without Staubach. Bill Walsh wouldn't have had the coaching career he did without Joe Montana. Lombardi wouldn't have achieved the legendary status he did without Bart Starr. It's a coaches players primarily their QB that win the games. QB's are called coach killers for a reason if they don't play well their team usually doesn't play well and it leads to the coach being fired. Every HC is tied at the hip with their QB. None of the great head coaches looked very good without a great QB. Parcells and Joe Gibbs are 2 of the only "great" NFL head coaches who were never blessed with a great QB.