LB Watch: Payton Wilson

[Mac_MaloneV1]

How would you guys feel if Dallas used their 1st pick on LB Edgerrin Cooper?
LB is certainly one of the biggest needs, if not the biggest. To pair him with Overshown would give us two very fast/rangy, high athletic LBer's who accel in space and can cover. Plus, both are very adequate blitzers. And, let me add being able to spy a QB like Hurts.
Some of you want that big bruising LB who takes on OL and stuffs the run for no gain. But, the game has moved away from that and those LB are not seeing the field.
Cooper would be a perfect fit and would allow the defense to be more versatile. Then Bell can be moved back to S and replace Kearse.

Terrible. Awful. Horrible.

I like Cooper, but you simply can't take an off-ball LB in the first round, especially not when the other prospects this year match more important holes so well (OL).

 

[John813]

I liked him from a few years ago being a GT fan.

Pretty quick LB. Wouldn't be upset if they took him day 2
Think he'll rise up the boards with a good combine showing

 

[JeffInDC]

Terrible. Awful. Horrible.

I like Cooper, but you simply can't take an off-ball LB in the first round, especially not when the other prospects this year match more important holes so well (OL).

What this team ABSOLUTELY NEEDS is an INSTINCTIVE, playmaking MLB. One that’s a stud vs. the inside run, has pretty good to great range, and can develop into a good zone defender. This team has nothing but WLB types on it and it shows. Jaylan Ford from Texas should be available Round 3 and later. Tommy Eichenberg from Ohio State should also be available around then (well, maybe late 2 and later).

 

[Sydla]

Mocks aren't the end all be all, of course, but if you look at the mocks it seems in that 28-32 range you are going to have OL and DL as the BPAs still on the board and we could use both.

Don't get cute.

 

[Sydla]

What this team ABSOLUTELY NEEDS is an INSTINCTIVE, playmaking MLB. One that’s a stud vs. the inside run, has pretty good to great range, and can develop into a good zone defender. This team has nothing but WLB types on it and it shows. Jaylan Ford from Texas should be available Round 3 and later. Tommy Eichenberg from Ohio State should also be available around then (well, maybe late 2 and later).

Still Cooper in the 1st would be a reach. Eichenberg in the 3rd would be nice value.

 

[cnuball21]

Terrible. Awful. Horrible.

I like Cooper, but you simply can't take an off-ball LB in the first round, especially not when the other prospects this year match more important holes so well (OL).

If Cooper continues to rise in the draft process and solidifies himself as a 1st round talent I have zero issues taking an off the ball LBr at the bottom of the 1st.

Normally I’d agree that I don’t like the value of LBr in the first, but we’re picking at the bottom of the round and we’re not rebuilding we’re in win now mode.

LBr has been an issue for like a decade…and if the team feels strong about him I’d be for it. Would prefer a more valuable position, but if he’s BPA it fills a massive need.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

If Cooper continues to rise in the draft process and solidifies himself as a 1st round talent I have zero issues taking an off the ball LBr at the bottom of the 1st.

Normally I’d agree that I don’t like the value of LBr in the first, but we’re picking at the bottom of the round and we’re not rebuilding we’re in win now mode.

LBr has been an issue for like a decade…and if the team feels strong about him I’d be for it. Would prefer a more valuable position, but if he’s BPA it fills a massive need.

They're going to finish 12-5 with one of the best defenses in football. A LB doesn't really get you anywhere that you aren't already. Gaps at OT/C could be really crippling.

Overshown is already a part of this draft class, too. There's just no reason to take an off-ball LB early. You're better off not taking one at all.

 

[Beaker42]

They're going to finish 12-5 with one of the best defenses in football. A LB doesn't really get you anywhere that you aren't already. Gaps at OT/C could be really crippling.

Overshown is already a part of this draft class, too. There's just no reason to take an off-ball LB early. You're better off not taking one at all.

Can’t have an outstanding let alone decent LB corps without more than one good LB. Clark sucks and I do yet another 2nd round bust. If a LB is BPA at tail end of first then do it. We have other picks to use on OT help plus UDFA guys. We seem to excel with identifying those guys.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Can’t have an outstanding let alone decent LB corps without more than one good LB.

Well you obviously don't need one to be a great team.

It's a cap league, you have to pick and choose the parts of the roster to invest in. There's no sense in trying to be really good at LB

 

[Beaker42]

Well you obviously don't need one to be a great team.

It's a cap league, you have to pick and choose the parts of the roster to invest in. There's no sense in trying to be really good at LB

I get that but our guys aren’t average or even decent ……… they’re total trash. Get a good LB prospect to pair alongside Overshown and go from there. Truth be told, we don’t even know if Overshown is going to be decent as we didn’t get enough time to really tell.

It’s better to draft a good LB prospect than sign a guy in FA for the very reason you mentioned. IF a FA LB wants to come to Dallas then he is probably going to have to reduce his asking price a tad.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

I get that but our guys aren’t average or even decent ……… they’re total trash. Get a good LB prospect to pair alongside Overshown and go from there. Truth be told, we don’t even know if Overshown is going to be decent as we didn’t get enough time to really tell.

It’s better to draft a good LB prospect than sign a guy in FA for the very reason you mentioned. IF a FA LB wants to come to Dallas then he is probably going to have to reduce his asking price a tad.

You're ignoring the opportunity cost of drafting a LB high and also not applying this logic to other positoins.

LBers don't matter, relative to offensive line.

 

[Hardline]

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Junior-Colson-LB-Michigan

 

[cnuball21]

They're going to finish 12-5 with one of the best defenses in football. A LB doesn't really get you anywhere that you aren't already. Gaps at OT/C could be really crippling.

Overshown is already a part of this draft class, too. There's just no reason to take an off-ball LB early. You're better off not taking one at all.

Oh OT is my 1st preference for sure…I’m just saying if the board is wiped at OT and the LBr is clear cut BPA I’m good with it.

Our defense has been mediocre at best against playoff caliber teams on the road.

Overshown is a finesse LBr…he moves sideline to sideline well and covers well but we need someone that can get off blocks and get dirty on downhill runs.

 

[JeffInDC]

Mocks aren't the end all be all, of course, but if you look at the mocks it seems in that 28-32 range you are going to have OL and DL as the BPAs still on the board and we could use both.

Don't get cute.

If T. Sweat is there at your pick, you take him - PERIOD!!!!! I could care less if you just took a DT in Round 1 the previous year. This D needs to be able to stop the run better if it wants to truly be Elite.

 

[Sydla]

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Junior-Colson-LB-Michigan

Nice player.

 

[Beaker42]

You're ignoring the opportunity cost of drafting a LB high and also not applying this logic to other positoins.

LBers don't matter, relative to offensive line.

You do realize our s****y LB is a huge reason we couldn’t stop the run against Buffalo, right? We HAVE TO GET BETTER AT LB or we won’t go anywhere.

 

[stilltheguru]

You do realize our s****y LB is a huge reason we couldn’t stop the run against Buffalo, right? We HAVE TO GET BETTER AT LB or we won’t go anywhere.

A rookie isn't fixing it more than likely so I don't know why you keep harping on it. Unless you see a luke keuckly or Patrick Willis is this draft. Do you?

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

You do realize our s****y LB is a huge reason we couldn’t stop the run against Buffalo, right? We HAVE TO GET BETTER AT LB or we won’t go anywhere.

Yea - but you don't need to invest significant draft capital to do it.

They could have great LB play...and they'd still be 12-5.

 

[Malhavoc]

There isn’t any LB worth taking in round 1. There will better options available.

 

[Creeper]

People saying he is injury prone, what injuries has he had? According to the OP he missed games in 2021, but what about the other years? Looks like he was available for every other game. Can you provide the rest of the details on his injuries.