LeBron plays the race card.

[Maikeru-sama]

According to this 9/2010 article below, Barry Bonds is still the 2nd most hated athlete in America.

The outrage against Barry Bonds was much greater then Roger Clemens or any other baseball player and it isn't even close.

 

[Hostile]

According to this 9/2010 article below, Barry Bonds is still the 2nd most hated athlete in America.

The outrage against Barry Bonds was much greater then Roger Clemens or any other baseball player and it isn't even close.

What you are not taking into account is that Bonds was pretty much hated before the scandal ever surfaced. He was arrogant, rude, and dismissive of fans, media, and even teammates most of his career. I have a friend who asked Bonds for an autograph on a baseball for a charity and Bonds said he didn't care about charity.

 

[WoodysGirl]

I love how you conveniently left out the fact that when that happened, Clyde, Pippen, and Drexler were in the twilight phases of their career....which is vastly different than joining up with them if they were in the prime. Also, Barkley never held a 1 hour special to announce any such nonsense, which is his bigger point.

And lastly, Barkley was traded to Houston. He wasn't a FA.

LeBron was "traded" too. But since he was a UFA, he basically picked the team, could have signed outright with them, and instead the Cavs obliged with a sign and trade to at least get back something.

But that scenario was different than Barkley's, too.

Maybe you missed where I said, "Old Man's Miami Heat" None of them were in their prime, but the goal was the same, especially since Rockets had just come off championship seasons.

Bosh's deal was a sign and trade, Barkley was a trade. Pippen was a FA, LeBron was a FA.

Regardless of how all those guys ended up in Houston, the intent was the same. Go to a team with the best chance of getting a ring. At the time, Houston was one of those teams.

A better comparison might be when Karl Malone and Gary Payton went to the Lakers. Yep, not alot of outrage there.

I love Barkley, but he's a hypocrit in this regard. He chased the ring and it didn't work.

 

[Vintage]

Maybe you missed where I said, "Old Man's Miami Heat" None of them were in their prime, but the goal was the same, especially since Rockets had just come off championship seasons.

Bosh's deal was a sign and trade, Barkley was a trade. Pippen was a FA, LeBron was a FA.

Regardless of how all those guys ended up in Houston, the intent was the same. Go to a team with the best chance of getting a ring. At the time, Houston was one of those teams.

A better comparison might be when Karl Malone and Gary Payton went to the Lakers. Yep, not alot of outrage there.

I love Barkley, but he's a hypocrit in this regard. He chased the ring and it didn't work.

No, he's not.

He said numerous times, in his prime, he wouldn't have joined up with the others. He wanted to be the guy. He wanted to beat MJ, Bird, Magic, et al. It wasn't until the end of his career, when his game had deteriorated, that he linked up.

Same with Payton and Malone. They were at the end of their careers.

All of whom, in their prime, did none of that. They all wanted to win with their team. They didn't make deals back in 2006 in the prime of their careers and get together.

That didn't occur until they were on their last legs.

Huge difference.

 

[TheCount]

No, he's not.

He said numerous times, in his prime, he wouldn't have joined up with the others. He wanted to be the guy. He wanted to beat MJ, Bird, Magic, et al. It wasn't until the end of his career, when his game had deteriorated, that he linked up.

Same with Payton and Malone. They were at the end of their careers.

All of whom, in their prime, did none of that. They all wanted to win with their team. They didn't make deals back in 2006 in the prime of their careers and get together.

That didn't occur until they were on their last legs.

Huge difference.

What difference does it make really?

Okay. Lebron signing with Wade and Bosh means he is not the competitor guys like Jordan were. And?

Is that reason alone to hate him? I could have told you that years ago. If you've watched him play and listened to his press conferences, you should have already had an idea of the type of person he is.

His signing with the Heat shouldn't be the core of people's hatred for him (and the poll suggests that for some people it is) if they were actually paying attention to the guy, they'd already know the type of person he is long before that.

Kobe is probably as fierce a competitor as those guys were, and he's still the #5 most hated athlete in America, so obviously lack of fire alone is not why Lebron's #6.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

And long before A-Rod admitted to using steroids, he was considered by many as being greedy and arrogant. The Ticket radio station use to blast that guy all the time, even though he was a great player.

I can only imagine how worse it would have been for Bonds if he had went in front of U.S. Congress and lied to their face.

 

[Vintage]

What difference does it make really?

Okay. Lebron signing with Wade and Bosh means he is not the competitor guys like Jordan were. And?

Is that a reason to hate him?

I hated him because he played for a division rival.

Don't pretend for a moment that you are some sort of Eli Manning, Kevin Kolb/Michael Vick, or Donovan McNabb fan....

Okay. Lebron signing with Wade and Bosh means he is not the competitor guys like Jordan were. And?

That's not the reason I hate him. Yawn.

 

[TheCount]

I hated him because he played for a division rival.

Don't pretend for a moment that you are some sort of Eli Manning, Kevin Kolb/Michael Vick, or Donovan McNabb fan....



That's not the reason I hate him. Yawn.

Believe it or not, I'm not talking about you specifically.

I'm discussing the subject as a whole. My only response directed towards anything you said was your claim that people were "crying race". Clearly race has a little something to do with the Lebron hate as it might have something to do with the fact that the 6 most hated athletes in America are all black and that among non-blacks the percentage of people that claimed to dislike him jumped from 25 to almost 50 percent after he signed with the Heat while only raising 1 percent among blacks.

To be totally clear, I am not saying that is the case for you just as I have made it clear my dislike for the guy goes back to the hype. Then again, I'm also not telling people to stop "crying".

My point is that whenever someone plays the "race card", people are so quick to throw out the "anti-race card" without even bothering to listen or consider the situation. The truth of the matter is that there is some truth to what Lebrons saying.

Does that mean I think he's right? Not necessarily but he isn't exactly wrong either.

 

[Hostile]

For the record, topping my list is Pig Pen Ruthlessraper. I have no respect for a man who forces himself on a woman.