Led Zeppelin debut album

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  1. CouchCoach

    CouchCoach Well-Known Member

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    If you want the original front man to put on a show, look no further than Jim Morrison.
     
  2. Runwildboys

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    I've never been a huge Doors fan, but you can't deny his charisma.
     
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  3. CouchCoach

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    Maybe front man isn't the right term for the ones you listed, more like showman.

    I read an interview with Plant in RS many years ago about front men and he made an interesting comment. He said people come to hear our music performed differently since it is live; they do not come to see it. We perform our music with the best musicians in the world, that's what they come to see. I took that as why he really wasn't a showman and took his voice to be one of those instruments and I agree with that.

    Guys like Mercury, Morrison, Cooper, Roth and Ozzie are more showmen than front men. I also think one of the developing problems with Van Halen was Roth's overshadowing the real star of the band and pulling attention away from him. I don't think Plant ever saw himself as the star, he reserved that for his friend, Page, and he was the first to call Bonham the best drummer in rock history. The last special he did on ACL, he would draw attention to his players. His respect for those that could really play was apparent.

    The showmen you mention are in the minority, many more front men and women do not draw particular attention to themselves while performing live and see it more as a band presentation. But I like those showmen too, Alice Cooper was the best and most creative I'd ever seen and since he really didn't have a great voice, he needed that edge.

    It's really semantics to me as I am not using the term front man as you are but more as to the contribution of that person to the overall effect of the music and in that area, Plant has no peer to me. His vocals were every bit as much of an instrument as Page's playing. I can listen to his voice soar on Immigrant Song over and over and never tire of it.
     
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  4. CouchCoach

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    Or lack of inhibitions. Morrison was different, I think they created the term performance art to describe him. He was a true artist.
     
  5. Runwildboys

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    I agree, I think terminology is the only thing we're seeing differently.

    What you're referring to as a front man, I simply think of as the lead singer. To me, a front man adds to the show, and gives the audience something to watch. He also expresses himself and creates the mood, visually passing on his excitement, sorrow, anger, etc.

    Don't get me wrong, there's not a band out there I'd love to see more than Zep, in their prime. I say "in their prime" because I remember watching a show with Jason Bonham on drums, and he was the best part of the show. Page was sloppy, and Plant actually forgot the lyrics to Stairway to Heaven. To be honest, when it comes to rock, I usually prefer the studio recording over live, but in all the live recordings I've heard, Zeppelin always had the perfect compromise between changing it up and not straying to far from the studio recording.
     
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  6. jsb357

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  9. Runwildboys

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    My favorite. So raunchy!
     
  10. Hardline

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    Zeppelin is the greatest rock and roll band of all time.
     
  11. Roadtrip635

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    Led Zepp's debut album was the first 8-Track I ever bought with my own money.....lol
    I never get the chance to see them live, but did see Plant on his first solo tour. It was a great show, but he was in his refusal to play Zepp songs phase. Throughout the show, they would tease and play just a little bit of a Zepp song, then play something else. Everyone thought for sure they would play at least 1 or 2, but never did, kinda crappy after all the teasing. They did do a very cool, complete stage change and did a HoneyDrippers show in the middle, then changed the stage back.
     
  12. Runwildboys

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    Anyone who disputes that has never actually heard them.
     
  13. cowboy_ron

    cowboy_ron You Can't Fix Stupid

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    They are still #1 and not even a close second in sight.
     
  14. cowboy_ron

    cowboy_ron You Can't Fix Stupid

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    The doors were awesome.
     
  15. MyBad

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    I wen to their show on 7/24/77 in Oakland Ca. Was a great time.
     
  16. Silver Surfer

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    I've wondered what the band would have sounded like and what direction they'd have taken if they'd been able to get Steve Marriott to sing for them rather than Plant.....
     
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  17. Sarek

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  18. JohnnyTheFox

    JohnnyTheFox Achilleslastand

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    Yep Page also wanted Terry Reid as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Reid
     
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  19. Skullmiester

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    Without Plant there's no Bonzo therefore I don't think it would have worked so instantly and spectacularly.
     
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  20. Silver Surfer

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    Didn't know that. I'll have to listen to some of his work.

    I'm fully aware that it wasn't his song to begin with, but Marriott's rendition of You Need Loving was mimicked so heavily by Plant on Whole Lotta Love that its actually funny to me. I would have loved to hear Marriott sing Whole Lotta Love with Page playing behind him. That would have been rich.

     
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