Lets say we trade Ellis...

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big dog cowboy said:
I'd be surprised if we got offered a day one pick.
Me too. 8 sacks per year or not, he's now a backup in Dallas.
 

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well,it seems to me that if his deal is not restructered, he is saying he won't play! So, it is a no win situation for the Cowboys. Pay him or get nothing for him. I don't think we would get a first day pick so just give him the signing bonus he wants. We have the cap space.
 

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maxsports said:
well,it seems to me that if his deal is not restructered, he is saying he won't play! So, it is a no win situation for the Cowboys. Pay him or get nothing for him. I don't think we would get a first day pick so just give him the signing bonus he wants. We have the cap space.

i wish you were my boss, just pay me more so you can be sure i'll do the job your already paying me to do. otherwise i might just sit and do nothing, (or log on cowboys zone all day- wait i already do that) :)



j/k, i do manage to get my work done and still check out whats going on at the zone during some down time.
 

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Hoov said:
i wish you were my boss, just pay me more so you can be sure i'll do the job your already paying me to do. otherwise i might just sit and do nothing, (or log on cowboys zone all day- wait i already do that) :)



j/k, i do manage to get my work done and still check out whats going on at the zone during some down time.

Actually it is like more like here go, you are getting a small demotion, but you have moxy and even though you really know nothing about the position you better excel or when we re evaluate you next year you may be without a job.

And you follow with something along this line: How bout give me a little bonus to learn a new postion so I know that you are doing this to better the company not low ball me out the door.
 

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jrumann59 said:
Actually it is like more like here go, you are getting a small demotion, but you have moxy and even though you really know nothing about the position you better excel or when we re evaluate you next year you may be without a job.

And you follow with something along this line: How bout give me a little bonus to learn a new postion so I know that you are doing this to better the company not low ball me out the door.

well, i just took note of maxsports post where it sounded like he was saying that it looks like ellis might not play so lets just give him more money cause were not using it right now anyway.

And so i was just having some fun with him. Your idea sounds nice but doubt it will happen that way.
 

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You and me both. HE already knows the system and is growing into his body. Hope his weight doesn't become a problem though, although I don't think it will once he continually gets to play football and workout.

Are you guys talking about Derek Ross?
:rolleyes:
 

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some people are pissed because they dont have the BALLS to do what ELLIS is doing! hey if Ellis worked at your job I'm sure he would feel just like u!
 

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i would trade ellis so fast his head would spin, once he made this about money and in the press, he is a distaction, and time for him to go, to any team willing to trade for him, i would call atalnta first to see if a deal for schaub could be worked out if not, to whoever wherever but out the door now before this grows to something to take away from the concentration on this year
 

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This guy is NOT a top pass rusher. the bar set for leading the BOys in sacks is NOT VERY HIGH. He really is not WORTH any more then what he is being paid NOW. I think we could get at least a good 3rd pick for him from the right team.
Brooks is now looking more of a possibility- DEPENDING on what Groh tells BP about how his head is screwed on.
 

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not very much for the simple fact the other teams knows now that he is unhappy
 

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MONT17 said:
some people are pissed because they dont have the BALLS to do what ELLIS is doing! hey if Ellis worked at your job I'm sure he would feel just like u!

i'm not pissed. i dont really care either way about ellis. im not fed up with him and not clamoring for the cowboys to trade him but im also not defending him. there is no emotional tie either way for me.

But from here on out i cant get the guinea pig image out of my head, i wonder how his teamates are going to be ribbing him about that one.

But my post was not so much about ellis, it was more about the idea that every time a player is unhappy we should just throw more money at them so that they dont become a distraction. A player is going to choose how to deal with adversity and they are either going to stay quiet and work harder or they are going to cry, "its not fair".
 

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CrazyCowboy said:
not very much for the simple fact the other teams knows now that he is unhappy

And he has NO upside.

Teams wouldn't give up nearly what fans think we should get. You are talking 3rd round to a very stupid and desperate franchise. Day two draft choice to an average one.
 

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Hostile said:
I'd take that in a heartbeat.
We've always been on the same page with this guy - we are definitely in the minority.
 
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