Let's show some class here

[Stautner]

Days on end? It's been less than 24 hours since the defeat. And Jerry just dropped some brand new "negativity" on us with regards to Dez's route running. As for logic, yours is to conflate legitimate grievances with "whining." Nice try, but fail.



That's clearly your desired result. One way to do that is to jump on anyone who has anything remotely negative to say, accuse them of "hating" on the team, and impugn their motives. Funny, but I've never cared for censorious bullies.



Homers have complaints? News to me.

Math is also a problem I guess. It's been almost 48 hours since the game ended.

As for whining, you are the one who defended it by saying this iis a message board and not Valley Ranch.

As for getting people to shut up, your logic fails miserably, and in fact if you had read my posts you would see that I am all for discussion, debate, and even airing greivances. It's the "pissed off", and expecting others to be "pissed off" that I find off base, along with the refusal to recognize that the Pats actually deserve some credit for the outcome of the game.

 

[casmith07]

Math is also a problem I guess. It's been almost 48 hours since the game ended.

As for whining, you are the one who defended it by saying this iis a message board and not Valley Ranch.

As for getting people to shut up, your logic fails miserably, and in fact if you had read my posts you would see that I am all for discussion, debate, and even airing greivances. It's the "pissed off", and expecting others to be "pissed off" that I find off base, along with the refusal to recognize that the Pats actually deserve some credit for the outcome of the game.

No team ever beats us, we always beat ourselves. If you don't see that, and you don't join the pitchfork crew, you're a kool-aid chugging homer. You should know that!

 

[bbgun]

Math is also a problem I guess. It's been almost 48 hours since the game ended.

Days on end! :laugh2: Is it Thursday or something?

As for whining, you are the one who defended it by saying this iis a message board and not Valley Ranch.

You sure do have an elastic definition of the word "whining." Find someone's opinions inconvenient? Dismiss them as a whiner. Whining about the media and fellow fans? AOK.

As for getting people to shut up, your logic fails miserably, and in fact if you had read my posts you would see that I am all for discussion, debate, and even airing greivances. It's the "pissed off", and expecting others to be "pissed off" that I find off base, along with the refusal to recognize that the Pats actually deserve some credit for the outcome of the game.

So accusing people of being whiners, haters and complainers is supposed to encourage them to post more? Fascinating.

 

[Stautner]

Days on end! :laugh2: Is it Thursday or something?

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I'm not sure you should laugh. With your confusion on the number of hours in a day it could be Monday or it could be Thursday.

You sure do have an elastic definition of the word "whining." Find someone's opinions inconvenient? Dismiss them as a whiner. Whining about the media and fellow fans? AOK. .

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You opinion hasn't inconvenienced me in any way. It's puzzling, but also amusing.

So accusing people of being whiners, haters and complainers is supposed to encourage them to post more? Fascinating.

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You sure have a creative way of interpereting the words of others. Some might even say you have a developed sense of fantasy.

 

[iceberg]

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You sure have a creative way of interpereting the words of others. Some might even say you have a developed sense of fantasy.

i'd say overdeveloped.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Wow, its as if people read the byline only and responded without even knowing what the OP said.

The Op didn't say he was happy about the win, or even that he didn't fell bad or that he wasn't upset. He said he was. What he said was that you also have to be fair to the Patriots.

Many Cowboy fans tend to take these games as if the opponent has no say in the outcome, and that winning or losing is solely on the heads of the Cowboys. The reality is that NE has been a highly successful team for a long time, and they still have one of the most potent offenses in the NFL. They did what they needed to win, and while obviously we could have done some things differently, we played a solid overall game and fell short. That doesn't mean it isn't frustrating, or that we don't need to straighten out some things, and the OP didn't suggest otherwise.

That right there.

 

[shockandroll]

Wrong. Brady won the game at the end. They disrupted the timing of receivers. They pressured Romo. They didn't miss tackles. They didn't have penalties. They did just enough to stay in the game and win it until the end. If you notice, Welker didn't catch every ball thrown to him either.

I'm not wrong. Welker did not catch balls because Scandy was all over him and we pressured Brady so his throws were not always perfect. The two drops I'm talking about were off Austins hands. Can you site Welker making 2 drops in the game? If not, it's apples and oranges.

Like I said, we forced their mistakes, they did not force most of ours.

 

[shockandroll]

No team ever beats us, we always beat ourselves. If you don't see that, and you don't join the pitchfork crew, you're a kool-aid chugging homer. You should know that!

I don't think that's a fair comment. The final drive the Pats were better then us, prior to that do you disagree we made a bunch of unforced mistakes? Do you think our offense played as good as it could and the Pats defense was just better? I'm sure not calling you a homer, I do disagree that they're better.

 

[cityofchampions]

1. For those who say you won't tip your hats to cheaters, Jimmy Johnson admitted to doing spygate as well so I hope you don't tip your hat to your own team or maybe just realize spygate was overblown and stop.
2. Shockandroll it's funny how when the Pats made mistakes it was bc the Cowboys caused it but the Dallas mistakes were self inflicted. Rose-colored glasses much?

 

[CliffnDallas]

Why start now...

 

[Beast_from_East]

Why the hell would I congratulate the freaking Pats when Garrett gave them the game on a silver platter?


If our HC/OC had some balls and actually tried to win the game, maybe I would have a different perspective. Garrett gave the game away, the Pats didnt win jack.

 

[ilovejerry]

Few are pissed off or torn up about it, either. Instead, even before the body was cold, we were bombarded with a slew of silver lining/glass half full posts along the lines of "I love this team; I'm not upset about this loss; we played them tough" etc. Again, had this been 1990, some of that moral victory crapola might have made sense, but we're not a young, inexperienced, up and coming team.

Show me a good loser ...

we're breeding a bad seed here, mediocrity sucks you win or go home. Winning isn't everything its THE ONLY thing ( immortal words of one of the greatest coaches ever.)

 

[shockandroll]

1. For those who say you won't tip your hats to cheaters, Jimmy Johnson admitted to doing spygate as well so I hope you don't tip your hat to your own team or maybe just realize spygate was overblown and stop.
2. Shockandroll it's funny how when the Pats made mistakes it was bc the Cowboys caused it but the Dallas mistakes were self inflicted. Rose-colored glasses much?

I did not say all mistakes, I'm being pretty specific about Austin's drops and a few of the penalties. When Welker did not catch the ball, Scandy blanketed him and Brady had to get rid of the ball so it was not a perfect pass. Welker did not drop them, they were defended against.

When Austin dropped his, they hit his hands and were well thrown balls. Most likely due to rust, Austin messed up all by himself and dropped them. The drops were not a result of defense, they were the result of a self inflicted mistake.

Do you understand there is a difference? If Romo was running around and had to throw off his back foot, throwing off target as a result; and Austin had to reach behind him while getting hit forcing it to fall incomplete, the Pats would have forced it. When it's on his hands and he's not getting hit and he drops it, they did not force it, he messed up.

Instead of snooty comments, how bout try to digest what I'm saying and lets discuss it if you disagree.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I think the Patriots are flat out the better team, especially playing them at home. I thought that before the season. All things considered, I think the Cowboys did about as well as they could do to put themselves in position to at least have a chance at winning the game ... control the ball, slow down the tempo of the game, take the game to the final possession and hope you can steal a win against a superior opponent.


The hilarious thing is the tortured CowboysZone poster logic where believing you have the inferior team makes you a "homer" or "putting a rosey spin on things", while throwing a temper tantrum after a loss because you actually deluded yourselves into believing we were better than New England makes you a "realist, just telling it like it is".

 

[Midgar8784]

I will never tip my hat to cheaters, regardless of when the cheating happened

First of all, Hey all Patriots fan here. Second, great game guys you have a very good team, nothing to be shamed of when losing a tough game that could have went either way....now as far as this quote above, I think you need to read this link and thats all I am going to say on that. Good luck the rest of the year all. By the way, you guys have very cool emoticons, and come on over to patriotsplanet.com and say hello, we have a ton of good people from other teams as well.


http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/s...23/jimmy-johnson-thinks-spygate-is-overblown/

 

[Idgit]

The hilarious thing is the tortured CowboysZone poster logic where believing you have the inferior team makes you a "homer" or "putting a rosey spin on things", while throwing a temper tantrum after a loss because you actually deluded yourselves into believing we were better than New England makes you a "realist, just telling it like it is".

Yep. It's completely bass-ackwards. When the team's doing well and the 'realists' go flailing off in the other direction, nobody--besides maybe bbgun--is annoyed enough by overoptimism to even say anything about it. But when we're not winning, the overreaction is noticeable because the homers pipe up to defend the team.

The real lines on a board are between the emotionally reserved posters and the emotionally...expressive...ones.

 

[Stautner]

we're breeding a bad seed here, mediocrity sucks you win or go home. Winning isn't everything its THE ONLY thing ( immortal words of one of the greatest coaches ever.)

And you think the fans affect this how?